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da_bears_da1 04-10-2013 08:23 AM

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Didn't realize it has been so long since an update. My daughter is moving back to our area so spent a week house shopping. We finally got back to work yesterday. As you will see we have been cleaning up the firewall and fixing the back of the cab.

As you can see the PO hacked up the firewall putting on a brake booster. He also drilled a number of holes all over the firewall.
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Got the firewall cleaned up. I love the look of a very clean firewall so am going to go with an economy/recirculating heater. Have been looking for 64-66 heater delete plates and only found one bad set for $80. Decided the heck with it and cut patches and welded them in. We also got all of the holes we don't need filled.
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We then moved to the back of the cab. We had previously put on both cab corners but had cancer next to them on the bottom. The driver's side was only 3-4 inches but the passenger side was about 8-9 inches. Spent a frustrating day making patches for the bottom of the cab. Had to throw away a couple of attempts on the drivers side, just had a hard time getting the radius right and then the bottom return the right length.
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Here are both sides. The passenger's side had some thin metal around the patches so it took a day of welding, grinding to get it all filled in.
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Now we are going to get the rockers attached. Bought a set of doors off of another guy on this site. Mine were a patch work of filler and rust. Now that the doors are back from soda blasting, we can put them on today and get the rockers done. It has been 2.5 months of work on the cab so it is nice to see an end to the metal work on it.

aggie91 04-11-2013 02:42 PM

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I like your progress and the attention you are putting into it. I borrowed a HF shrinker/stretcher from a friend, but not used it yet. I need to get back to it and get the parts made...

Looks great!

da_bears_da1 04-11-2013 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by aggie91 (Post 6005302)
I like your progress and the attention you are putting into it. I borrowed a HF shrinker/stretcher from a friend, but not used it yet. I need to get back to it and get the parts made...

Looks great!

Thanks! I am surprised how much the shrinker/stretcher helps on some patches.
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da_bears_da1 04-16-2013 06:54 PM

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We have finally gotten the outer rockers installed. We got different doors from a fellow forum member; mine were half filler that I got with the truck. Got them soda blasted, finished our other work and got to the rockers. The fun part on the driver's side was that the inner rocker I bought from Classic Parts of America was about 1.5" shorter on the front side than the back. We had to fabricate a piece and weld it on to the inner rocker to get the necessary length to be able to weld the outer rocker to it. Here is the driver's side.
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On the passenger side it was no fun at all. The PO cut off both the inner and outer rockers and attached a new outer rocker with filler. He apparently drove it that way for a while so when we put our new outer rocker on we were about an 1" off length wise. It turned out that since the floor was so full of cancer and the rocker was held on with filler the passenger side relaxed about 3/4 of an inch. We had to pull the door pillars together and then weld a brace in to get the cab back in shape. Once we got through that, it was pretty smooth sailing. Just had the normal adjustments to get the parts to fit. Here is how it turned out.
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For any other newbies out there that read this, BRACE YOUR CAB BEFORE YOU CUT ANYTHING!

Chad215 04-16-2013 07:22 PM

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Your firewall looks great- I didn't like the look of the heater delete plates either so I did the same thing. Great progress!

groundbound64 04-16-2013 08:23 PM

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Great work ! Looks like you learn fast for not turning a wrench in 20yrs

da_bears_da1 04-18-2013 08:17 AM

Around the cab in 80 days
 
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We finished our final patch on the cab yesterday. Went back and counted and its been 80 days we have been doing metal working on the cab; seems like forever.

We are going for a clean look and are going to mount speakers in a custom wood box behind the seat. So we decided to take out the speaker grill on the dash and put in a solid patch. We went real slow to make sure there was no warping.
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Here is a picture of the cut out speaker grill.
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We also replaced the passenger side rain guide (guessing that's what it's called) on the front door pillar. Ours had a fair amount of cancer so we formed a new piece and put it in. This was another challenge to form. It has a flat side an inch long to attach to the door pillar, then and reverse bend and then a 90 degree bend. Lots of tinkering around to get it right.
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So today we are will be putting away the saws and welder for a while and finally get to start doing some body work and priming on the cab.

Ta2Don 04-18-2013 08:43 AM

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Awesome Progress!!!

da_bears_da1 04-18-2013 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Ta2Don (Post 6019195)
Awesome Progress!!!

Thank you!

Strodder 04-18-2013 11:05 AM

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Looks great. I did the same thing with the speaker grill. :metal:

Bomp 04-18-2013 01:34 PM

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Looking good. I've been watchin' and like what your doing.

da_bears_da1 04-19-2013 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Bomp (Post 6019750)
Looking good. I've been watchin' and like what your doing.

Thanks Bomp. Gotta tell you that your tag line about cutting it up and making it cool encouraged me to weld the firewall instead of delete plates and getting rid of the speaker grill. Nothin wrong with being different. ;)
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da_bears_da1 04-19-2013 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by groundbound64 (Post 6016252)
Great work ! Looks like you learn fast for not turning a wrench in 20yrs

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Originally Posted by Strodder (Post 6019442)
Looks great. I did the same thing with the speaker grill. :metal:

Thanks for the comments!
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McMurphy 04-19-2013 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by da_bears_da1 (Post 6021534)
Nothin wrong with being different. ;)

Exactly !! :metal:

da_bears_da1 04-20-2013 11:30 AM

Good week last week
 
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Continued progress on Thursday and Friday. We able to get things filled in and smoothed out and then got the inside of the cab primed. Happy to not have to worry about the inside of the cab flashing given the recent rains and humidity.:clap:
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Speaker grill is gone..........
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Ta2Don 04-20-2013 12:10 PM

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Very Clean!!!

da_bears_da1 04-23-2013 05:47 PM

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Just a minor update. Been watching other builds and have realized I tend to do a phase a then post the results where a lot of other builds are showing each step. So, spent the last couple of days DAing the cab and then got the fiberglass filler on our welds on the firewall. The fiberglass filler is a PITA but its good to have the strength around the welded areas we filled on the firewall. I am really hoping the firewall turns out as clean as I hope.
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Jmorales3181 04-23-2013 07:25 PM

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That cab is looking really good! :chevy:
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Bomp 04-23-2013 08:56 PM

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Its a nice clean build. I'll look every chance I get.:metal:

Modges'66 04-23-2013 09:20 PM

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Man, I thought that mine was clean! Nice work on the cab/firewall!

da_bears_da1 04-24-2013 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Jmorales3181 (Post 6030356)
That cab is looking really good! :chevy:
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Originally Posted by Bomp (Post 6030554)
Its a nice clean build. I'll look every chance I get.:metal:

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Originally Posted by Modges'66 (Post 6030608)
Man, I thought that mine was clean! Nice work on the cab/firewall!

It is kind of humbling to have guys with your skills givin me kudos. Very much appreciated. Now time to get off of the computer and out in the garage!:metal:

da_bears_da1 04-24-2013 04:58 PM

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Finished DAing the cab today and got more fiberglass filler on. Good news is all exterior welds are now covered with fiberglass filler. One thing I found out today is to not let the fiberglass filler sit for a long time. I put some on the cab corners before lunch and then my buddy who has been helping me stopped by and we talked for an hour. So the fiberglass sat for about 2 hours before I sanded it, not good. Took about double the time to sand. When I DAed the roof I found another problem. Yes, as expected I have a lot more dents to work on but the real problem is that I have an oil can effect going on for most of the back side of the roof. Details below.

As you will see below I can put the fiberglass away for a while. :cool:
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So now the roof. As you can see, we did try pulling it and shrinking it. Still wobbling like a drunk sailor. The red area below is the problem. Unless there is some other good idea, I am going to break out the welder tomorrow and put in a patch about 42" x 7". I have both 16 and 18 gauge sheet stock so will check the roof thickness and try to match it. I may just go with 16 gauge for strength. Not like the difference in thickness will be seen inside the roof.;)
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Modges'66 04-24-2013 09:47 PM

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I feel your pain!
My roof was a real Pain in the rear!...
Something had fell on my roof prior to me owning it, and it was kinked across the ridge.
I played hell trying to get it flat without oil-canning.
All this time, I was working on the roof while the cab was on it's nose!
When I finally had everything flat & straight, I set the cab back upright, and noticed that the rear drip-rail on the drivers side was 3/8" lower than the passenger side....You had to study it a bit to see it, but once noticed, it was like a bad accident, you didn't want to stare, but couldn't help it!
I soon after spent a great deal of time with a sledge-hammer, while my dad held a 2 x 12 that we had ground to a contour that matched the shape of the rail, that allowed me to strike 50-60 times with great force to drive the drip-rail upward to match the other side...And while doing all of this, ALL of the filler that I had worked so hard to get flat & straight was flying around the garage!!...Needless to say, It is CORRECT now, but if I woulda left it the way that it was, not many people would have noticed, But I would have saw it EVERYTIME that I looked at it!
Even though nobody knows that it was even there, I am so glad that it is fixed correctly.
Take pride for making it right!

WhippinSaw 04-25-2013 12:22 AM

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Nice job on the speaker delete patch. I just learned the hard way about to much heat when welding then I read your post about going slow. A little wave in the door skin, But a lesson well learned. The roof looks like a pita. Have you thought about a new roof skin, hemifalcon has one for sale and he's in the area. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=565686

da_bears_da1 04-25-2013 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Modges'66 (Post 6032826)
I feel your pain!
My roof was a real Pain in the rear!...
Something had fell on my roof prior to me owning it, and it was kinked across the ridge.
I played hell trying to get it flat without oil-canning.
All this time, I was working on the roof while the cab was on it's nose!
When I finally had everything flat & straight, I set the cab back upright, and noticed that the rear drip-rail on the drivers side was 3/8" lower than the passenger side....You had to study it a bit to see it, but once noticed, it was like a bad accident, you didn't want to stare, but couldn't help it!
I soon after spent a great deal of time with a sledge-hammer, while my dad held a 2 x 12 that we had ground to a contour that matched the shape of the rail, that allowed me to strike 50-60 times with great force to drive the drip-rail upward to match the other side...And while doing all of this, ALL of the filler that I had worked so hard to get flat & straight was flying around the garage!!...Needless to say, It is CORRECT now, but if I woulda left it the way that it was, not many people would have noticed, But I would have saw it EVERYTIME that I looked at it!
Even though nobody knows that it was even there, I am so glad that it is fixed correctly.
Take pride for making it right!

That story confirms what comes across in you build, don't stop until its right. It must have been tough seeing the filler flying around while hitting the roof. Will get the welder back out today and get after it.
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da_bears_da1 04-25-2013 08:23 AM

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Nice job on the speaker delete patch. I just learned the hard way about to much heat when welding then I read your post about going slow. A little wave in the door skin, But a lesson well learned. The roof looks like a pita. Have you thought about a new roof skin, hemifalcon has one for sale and he's in the area. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=565686

Thanks! Seems we all have to learn the heat lesson the hard way!:devil:

Hoping to not have to take the roof skin off. Way too many spot welds. Will try to patch it first. If that doesn't work I may have to.
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Strodder 04-26-2013 03:24 PM

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I have the same problem with my roof and was thinking of the same thing. You do it first so I can see if it comes out good... :haha:

da_bears_da1 04-26-2013 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Strodder (Post 6036200)
I have the same problem with my roof and was thinking of the same thing. You do it first so I can see if it comes out good... :haha:

Was going to wait until I was further along but will get this posted before I head out. Promised my daughter 4 years ago I would take my grand daughter to Disney and now that she is 4 (almost 5) that time is next week. Gotta do a bunch of chores for my wife tomorrow and then head to Orlando Sunday for the week. So here is the update.

As you can see below, the roof patch was successful. We used 16 gauge for the patch just for the extra strength. Wish I would have taken a picture when the patch was cut out since there is a rubber support between the inner and outer roof in the center rear part of the roof. The rubber was worn so I added some door weather seal on the top to get it to support the new patch. While it was a big patch, it is one of the easier ones just a big square. We still have to finish welding it and grinding but it conforms very nicely to the roof line.

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As you can see, the old metal we cut out was very weak. It warped as soon as it was cut. Very glad we did this.:metal:
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Strodder 04-26-2013 09:39 PM

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Good job. Just be patent when you finish welding it. That's all you need is another warped panel :uhmk:

McMurphy 04-26-2013 10:30 PM

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Looking good so far, hope you enjoy Disney !!

da_bears_da1 04-27-2013 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Strodder (Post 6036825)
Good job. Just be patent when you finish welding it. That's all you need is another warped panel :uhmk:

Be there and don't want to go back.:metal:

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Originally Posted by McMurphy (Post 6036939)
Looking good so far, hope you enjoy Disney !!

Thanks! Should be a blast. I always have fun tormenting the family on the Pirates of the Caribbean ride belting out the song as loud as I can. They all pretend to not be with me.

da_bears_da1 04-27-2013 08:57 AM

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Quick update, the Jefferson WI swap meet turned out productive for me. Been needing to pick up some parts to finish out the motor. As you can see below, got a chrome alternator, thermostat housing, electric fuel pump and filter filter. My best score was getting a chrome booster and master cylinder. The MC has a ribbed top which will go great with my ribbed valve covers and air cleaner. I also got a proportioning valve with the MC/Booster.

McMurphy 04-27-2013 02:29 PM

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BLING !!! :metal:

WhippinSaw 04-27-2013 08:09 PM

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Good save on the roof repair, looks good, will be nice when you finish the roof so you can start playing with all those other goodies

da_bears_da1 04-28-2013 09:49 AM

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BLING !!! :metal:

Exactly!

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Good save on the roof repair, looks good, will be nice when you finish the roof so you can start playing with all those other goodies

Thanks, going nice and slow on the welding:metal::metal:
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Dinos63 04-28-2013 12:08 PM

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man you have done a ton of nice work,congrats!

Jeff La 04-28-2013 12:46 PM

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Nice Job, cab looks great

da_bears_da1 04-28-2013 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dinos63 (Post 6039206)
man you have done a ton of nice work,congrats!

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Originally Posted by Jeff La (Post 6039264)
Nice Job, cab looks great

Thanks guys! It is very nice to get the positive feedback. I have definitely learned this is a journey and not a race.:lol:
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Alan's Classic 04-28-2013 09:14 PM

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Things are looking great!! Nice work on the roof patch. :metal:

da_bears_da1 05-08-2013 05:32 PM

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Wow, not post for a little over a week and my build was on page 3. Just shows how much effort everyone puts into their builds.

After taking a week off to take my grand daughter to Disney we got back at it this week. Basically took a whole day to finish welding the patch on the roof. We went nice and slow so we did not warp anything and it was a 9.5" x 44" patch. Then had the wonderful distraction of a root canal yesterday morning (which they did not finish:waah:). We then got to working on filling and sanding. We got the roof patch filled and it turned out great.:metal:

Next is work on pulling out some dents, more filling on the outside of the cab and firewall. Probably have a week's worth of work to get ready for priming.

Very nice to be back at it!
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Sorry the next pic is a little fuzzy, the camera was focused on the front side of the roof.
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