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Lokin4AReason

10-09-2014 11:31 AM

Re: Cecil the 1953 5 window / S-10 / 5.7 TPI

how are you making the rusting process, if i may ask ....

ghettoluxury

10-10-2014 11:23 AM

Re: Cecil the 1953 5 window / S-10 / 5.7 TPI

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Originally Posted by oossuuu754 (Post 6845377)

I completely stripped/sandblasted the parts that I wanted to age. Flat Black Primer then painted them. After it dried for a few days I then sanded the entire part with mixture of coarse, medium and fine grit sanding disk on my orbital to give the pain the weathered look.

To make the rust you first need to completely sand any spot you want to rust to bare metal. Then you mix up a spray bottle with these ingredients.

16 oz Hydrogen Peroxide (fresh bottle un open is best)
2 oz white vinegar
1/2 Tbsp of Salt

lightly spray the bare metal and rust will form almost immediately. Let this dry then repeat. The more time you repeat the process it the darker it will be. You can also use a small propane torch to speed up the drying process.

After the rust has dried for about 24 hours, take fresh small paint brush and gently remove any extremely loose rust pieces. I use leaf blower to blow the loose particles away. Be careful because most of the rust will wipe away at this point.

After you removed the loose particles you need to treat and seal the rust with Pentrol. You can buy this at Lowes or Home Depot in the paint department. This will adhere it surface.

Lastly you should clear the patina with a satin or gloss clear. I am going to do that in about a year.

It is not as difficult as this sounds, but it does take a little time sanding.

Here is the info for you.

skymangs

10-11-2014 12:21 AM

Re: Cecil the 1953 5 window / S-10 / 5.7 TPI

Well, Shawn and his wife arrived with "Cecil" today... Went right into the new shop, before drywall, insulation, and wiring! That's about right for me, Truck in the bay before the building's done... :metal: I'll post pics tomorrow.

Jim; I haven't done a thread on this one, or my last one come to think of it... Too busy. I'll make some time to do a thread on the '54.

Elco; Thanks brother... appreciate the props. Nice seeing you at All Truck Nats last month!

oossuuu754

10-13-2014 12:56 PM

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Well as Chris mentioned we loaded up Cecil and headed North to MO. Weather cooperated for the most part and other than a blow out on the trailer about 30 miles into the trip it was uneventful. Chris my wife said she couldn't tell who was more giddy when we got there you or me. That enthusiasm is why I am excited about letting you bring Cecil back to life. Sorry we didn't get more photos but it was getting late and Chris and his family were about to go the football game.

I will say his 49 is going to be SWEET when its done!

oossuuu754

10-13-2014 05:54 PM

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So here is the short list of what Chris is going to do to Cecil:

Transplant him on the S-10 and slam him as low as we can get with drop spindles, blocks ect
Rust repair to the floors, kicks, and corners
Bring the 5.7 TPI back to life with a complete re wire/ECM courtesy of Larry Electric Site
Under dash AC
Power Bear Claws
One Piece Frameless Power Windows
Lokar Shifter
Original Gauges refurb
Barnwood Bed
Hidden Latches on the gate
Custom Interior
New Glass except for the corner glass
Mini Tub the rears to get the 4x4 rear end and the big 20x10s with the 275/55s to fit under the fenders.

Plus a bunch that I am forgetting.

Can't wait!

oldman3

10-13-2014 06:54 PM

Re: Cecil the 1953 5 window / S-10 / 5.7 TPI

Ready to see the transformation...Jim

oossuuu754

11-24-2014 10:56 AM

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Chris has started working on Cecil this weekend. He stripped the S-10 donor on Friday.

oossuuu754

11-24-2014 11:01 AM

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Saturday he was able to finish the stripping the S-10 frame and then power washed it. He has ordered some the chassis parts to get this thing laying low. He thinks we can get it about 5 inches off the ground. Stay tuned.

oldman3

11-24-2014 11:26 AM

Re: Cecil the 1953 5 window / S-10 / 5.7 TPI

Had wondered why we hadn't seen anything on this build, from you or Chris. Glad it is started and look forward to more updates...Jim

skymangs

11-27-2014 11:38 PM

Re: Cecil the 1953 5 window / S-10 / 5.7 TPI

Sorry all, got a little farther behind on the '54 than planned. I'm ready to get cranking on Cecil as soon as the Thanksgiving weekend is over. I've ordered a TON of parts already, I'm going to change up how I do this one a bit, and do the suspension work before body fitment. That way I can build it around those monstrous tires. I am also starting out by cutting an inch out of my cab mounts, I'll tack them together, and fit the body, that way it's easy to take more out if I need to.

The rear tires measure 32.25" tall... it's going to be a chore to get it low!

Also, the '54 has it's own thread now. Rico F. is the title.

skymangs

11-28-2014 03:13 PM

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I just ordered the new gauge from Speedhut. Shawn is graciously allowing me to use his truck as a test bed for some new Idea's I've been kicking around. I plan on replacing the original speedometer head with the new Speedhut electronic speedo. I will re-use the original faceplate, and have my graphics shop custom make me a vinyl decal to replicate the original look of the speedometer, but match the Mph marks of the Speedhut gauge. The new vinyl decal will go to 90mph, as the original did. The new speedo will have integrated bright and signal indicators as well.

If this works out as well as I expect, it will be my new standard for LS swaps.:cool:

oossuuu754

12-01-2014 05:41 PM

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Went by today to see Chris and see how Cecil was progressing. It was nice to get my gloves a little dirty and help him test fit the cab on the S-10 chassis. Chris has some ideas to get him to an overall goal of 7 inches off the ground. Stay tuned.

steve aleve

12-01-2014 05:54 PM

Re: Cecil the 1953 5 window / S-10 / 5.7 TPI

I'm definitely tuned in. This thing is going to be nice!!! I do have a couple questions. First off I think it was mentioned that the target height was going to be 5" above the ground. Why did this change to 7". Secondly what would be the lowest you would recommend for a static drive height 5"? 4"? etc? (when I say height I am referring to running board above the ground) is this what you are referring to also? Lastly there was mention of having to "get creative" to get it this low. What are the obstacles when shooting for this height? Gas tank? tunneling? radiator? raised bed floor? any others?

oossuuu754

12-01-2014 06:17 PM

Re: Cecil the 1953 5 window / S-10 / 5.7 TPI

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Originally Posted by steve aleve (Post 6940620)

Not sure if Chris will be able to chime in on what the lowest he would recommend for a static drive but I know that his Son's truck is only about 4 inches. Main reason we are having to change our goals is because of the massive tires I am running. With the 18x8s and 20x10s I have 29 and 31 inches of tires and wheels. Gas tank will be an issue if we go much lower. Chris is going to get the drop spindles in this week and then we have decided to go with a drop in the rear In addition to the 3 or 4 inch blocks. Looks like we will have to raise the bed a 2 or so inches but I don't want the bed much higher as I still want it look like a bed and not a wooden tonneau cover.

skymangs

12-01-2014 07:57 PM

Re: Cecil the 1953 5 window / S-10 / 5.7 TPI

Shawn didn't mention that I cut an additional inch out of the cab mounts this morning. That makes the forward stands just over 2" off the frame. Any closer we will run into trans and fuel tank clearance issues. I'm going to order a set of drop springs for the rear to suck it down some more. May go with 1" drop springs up front as well. I'm still shooting for 5", but I dont want to kill the ride just to get it low.

Lowest I would recommend would be 4.5" clearance at the front edge of the running board. Any lower, you will start to have speed bump problems.

steve aleve

12-01-2014 08:03 PM

Re: Cecil the 1953 5 window / S-10 / 5.7 TPI

Thank you guys for the responses. I appreciate it. 4.5 it is!!! lol. I'm anxious to see how this thing turns out! For mine, I have 3" blocks for the rear and 2" spindles up front. I also have some drop leafs and drop springs for the front that I wasn't sure if I was going to use for that same reason. I don't want it to ride poorly.

skymangs

12-01-2014 08:04 PM

Re: Cecil the 1953 5 window / S-10 / 5.7 TPI

Obstacles are bed height, pinion angle, trans clearance, steering shaft geometry, and ride quality. I was considering "Z'ing" the back half, but it would have raised his bed height too much. As it stands, once the drop springs go in the rear, the frame will need to be "C" notched.

skymangs

12-01-2014 08:07 PM

Re: Cecil the 1953 5 window / S-10 / 5.7 TPI

Remember Steve that your overall tire height really alters your ride height. PM me for my number if you would like the formula for 4.5" ride height.

oldman3

12-01-2014 08:39 PM

Re: Cecil the 1953 5 window / S-10 / 5.7 TPI

Chris, I see you have the shop full already. What's the deal with the AD with the I-ROC wheels in the rear. Is that a plymouth sedan, your also working on???....Jim

skymangs

12-01-2014 11:17 PM

Re: Cecil the 1953 5 window / S-10 / 5.7 TPI

The AD belongs to my buddy Chris. He's doing all the work, just using my shop, tools, power, and heat... Yup, He's a user! Lol

The other one is a 48 Plymouth Deluxe with a Caddy 472 and some hoakie work on the Camaro stub (lots of flex)... Guess what I'll be fixing?

oossuuu754

12-03-2014 03:30 PM

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Chris aka SKYMANGS has been busy this week so I am going to post verbatim what he has said straight of his facebook page

I will note his comments with indentations and quote marks. I want to make sure and give him all the credit for this wonderful work he is doing on Cecil

"Mocking up the driveline. Always a challenge to get it perfectly centered, and level. Tew motor mounts are bolted on, snd I use 1/2" ID 11ga. Tube and 1/2" bolts to mount it to the frame."

oossuuu754

12-03-2014 03:37 PM

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SKYMANGS:

"Once I'm happy with the placement, templates are made for the uprights. They are cut from 3/16" plate and tacked I n place. Then the driveline is yanked to seam them in."

oossuuu754

12-03-2014 03:42 PM

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Chris:

"Here's the driveline in position with the motor mounts all seemed in. I use a jackstand to keep th he tailgate in place, until I can get the trans cross member finished."

oossuuu754

12-03-2014 03:50 PM

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SKYMANGS:

"This is how I do the cross member. First I cut the passenger side, then I trim the driver's side to clear the frame rail. I weld 1.25 11ga. Boxed to create a new shelf. Then I trim the passenger side piece I cut off to fit and re-weld it together."

oossuuu754

12-03-2014 03:53 PM

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SKYMANGS:

"Then the cab goes back on to double check clearances. Tomorrow I'll start working on the brake booster/pedal assembly and steering column."

oossuuu754

12-03-2014 03:58 PM

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Once again I want to give Chris all the credit. He did all of this last Sunday, plus still found time to work on a 48 Buick. Chris you are crazy good and crazy fast. Trust me he has finished up a lot more but I am don't have time right now to post it up. If you cant wait go over to his facebook page, otherwise I will try to get it up tonight or tomorrow.

Thanks again SKYMANGS!

T Hilde

12-03-2014 06:01 PM

Re: Cecil the 1953 5 window / S-10 / 5.7 TPI

What did the motor come out of? I have the same exhaust manifolds and trying to find a Y pipe.

oossuuu754

12-04-2014 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by T Hilde (Post 6943350)

What did the motor come out of? I have the same exhaust manifolds and trying to find a Y pipe.

This motor is our of 5.7L 87 IROC Z28

oossuuu754

12-04-2014 06:29 PM

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SKYMANGS:

"Brake pedal assembly modified and installed. Booster/master located and mocked up. Still no drop spindles, were supposed to be delivered today."

oossuuu754

12-04-2014 06:33 PM

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SKYMANGS

New steering column, I build all my own brackets. This is the upper bracket being made.

oossuuu754

12-04-2014 06:37 PM

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SKYMANGS:

Seat base coming out. Last shot is the drivers floor pan. Rust goes all the way under the seat base. I'll be picking up a new pan later this week.

oossuuu754

12-04-2014 06:42 PM

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SKYMANGS:

"Upper bracket finished. Building the lower bracket. Last one is column installed"

skymangs

12-04-2014 08:21 PM

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Thanks for taking the time to post these Shawn. I'm having a blast building your truck!

oldman3

12-04-2014 08:37 PM

Re: Cecil the 1953 5 window / S-10 / 5.7 TPI

Nice update guys, looks good...Jim

oossuuu754

12-04-2014 10:42 PM

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SKYMANGS:

"Altman ez latches arrived today. They look like a really nice setup"

oossuuu754

12-04-2014 10:45 PM

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SKYMANGS:

"Doors completely stripped and ready for latch install. "

oossuuu754

12-04-2014 10:51 PM

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SKYMANGS:

"Latch install. Both sides are finished. Tomorrow I'll work on getting the Bear claw solenoids installed and front end disassembled. "

Passenger Side

oossuuu754

12-04-2014 10:53 PM

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DRIVERS Side

oossuuu754

12-08-2014 11:29 AM

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SKYMANGS:

"Spent all day today working on Cecil's front suspension. Not as low as I'd like it. But w the the huge front tires its about as low as it can go and still turn."

oossuuu754

12-08-2014 11:30 AM

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