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Johns 66 05-02-2017 08:04 PM

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Looks great John. I have had my truck for over 2 years and you are light years ahead of me! I just drive mine and add oil as it burns...haha Seems like you are having fun and that is the main thing! I am excited to see the progress on yours as it goes along. Alabama isn't far from GA...who knows maybe we will see each other rolling down the highway one day!

Andy...I'm sure we can meet up once we get them all fixed up...I appreciate the info on the cluster....I'm sure we can compare notes on this. I'm guessing mine will be here in a week or so. Luckily I decided to pull it especially after I found the loose main cap and broken bolt...very fortunate that the head hadnt come off

Johns 66 05-02-2017 08:16 PM

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Well in the previous post I eluded to it...Thanks to Andy who saw it online I have purchased this cluster..I know its not factory original but I think it is cool and just adds something to the dash....Of course I will rebuild it in time or at my leisure.....A lot of great threads on rebuilding this type of cluster. I am going to add the tach on the right side and add a clock on the left side which I think will look really cool.

Motor was dropped off at the machine shop today...just waiting on the damage:(:(:(

step65 05-02-2017 10:22 PM

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Nice truck hope things go well at the machine shop. Bow tie Overdrive has a nice kit for hooking up the tv cable on the 700r also they have a nice crossmember so you can use original embrake.

Johns 66 05-02-2017 11:02 PM

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Nice truck hope things go well at the machine shop. Bow tie Overdrive has a nice kit for hooking up the tv cable on the 700r also they have a nice crossmember so you can use original embrake.

Thanks so much I will definitely check them out.

Johns 66 05-05-2017 08:57 AM

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Well I am still waiting on the ole machine shop to get me some numbers..I understand that there are kinda busy right now...so no need to rush them...I am sure they will get on it as soon as they can.

Since I have some extra time I started on the engine bay...I had sprayed oven cleaner on pretty much the entire engine bay and let it sit for a couple of days. Last night I pressure washed everything off. I was really surprised at how clean it made everything. It actually took off the paint on the inner fenders and firewall. The surprising thing to me was that it didn't take it down to the metal...It seems that the panels were coated with some silver looking type paint, or dipped in something. In a couple of places that had rust on them I sanded them down and you could actually tell between the coating and the actual metal.

Lastly I rattle canned one inner fender to see what it was going to look like...The paint was Semi Flat paint and didn't do too bad....after it had dried I took a purple scotch brite pad and went over it again, and it really smoothed it out....So since the engine will be delayed for a few weeks I am going to get the engine bay pretty much finished. I am not going to take it apart so I will do the best I can doing it this way...I have to remind myself that this is going to be a driver truck and not a show street rod......

Johns 66 05-05-2017 09:07 AM

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I am going to paint the frame with POR 15 semi-gloss, as you can see it does have a little bit of surface rust. POR15 is supposedly the best stuff to kill rust like this and doesn't look too bad once applied...It is extremely expensive but I think it will be worth it in the long run.

The inner fender fender that I rattled canned last night did not look too terribly bad and because it had some rust, mainly underneath the battery box I am going to go back and sand it down really good and apply the POR 15..I just wanted to put something on it last night to keep it covered so it would not continue to rust.

Fortunately I have a good friend who has a blasting box and he has graciously agreed to let me use it...I may go this weekend and get it...While it is not really big it will be perfect for cleaning up the smaller items, especially the items for the motor that I will be painting when I get it back....Thanks Danny!!!!!

Johns 66 05-05-2017 09:33 AM

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A little background to this truck and the reason I am building it the way I am. I had a 63 SWB Stepside before that was my Uncle's, after many years of begging he finally gave it to me and I started building that truck...Because I wanted it to be super nice I actually took it to a shop to have the truck built...BIB BIG BIG Mistake....after spending a small fortune the truck never got finished by the shop and I ended up going and getting it.

Lets just say that I did not get what I paid for....As life goes and things happen I had to sell the truck..Quite simply it broke my heart..For weeks and weeks all I thought about was my truck...The many who bought it has been real gracious and has even offered me first right of refusal if he decided to sell it. He has the finances and experience to complete what I couldn't....Once done Ill post some pictures of his truck.....I know in my heart that I would never be able to afford buying back my old truck as he has already spent 35k in it.....but I t will be what I intended it to be.

So as the weeks went buy I had a big hole inside ..I know it may sound stupid because after all its just a truck Right? Not to me it wasn't.

It was the reason I love old chevy trucks...I was 6 yrs old, going down a country road, windows down, smell of spring in the air, standing in the seat ( yeah I know...it was a long time ago) and my Uncle buried the needle...Those ole wore out glasspacks sang a song that day that has forever been ingrained in me...Its almost like a drug in some ways.

Which is why I knew I had to get me another truck, and which is why on the first page you see my Uncle in the pictures instead of me.

I am going to do as much work on this truck myself this time...I learned a valuable lesson last time. I will get everything mechanical and electrical done and hopefully by the end of summer I can have it painted. It will not be a show truck but just a nice driver, a good paint job mind you But the bed and the hood, maybe the doors will be the only thing that comes off of it when its painted.

All I have ever owned are Chevrolets and while I do have a 56 Chevy 2 dr Belair, Im a truck guy plain and simple.

I will be retiring sometime this year and have always wanted to visit all 50 states...I have been to Hawaii already and not sure how about driving to Alaska BUT as they say...Im gonna see the USA in my Chevrolet. This is the reason I am building it the way I am....The 700R4 with a higher rear end gear will hopefully help the miles and miles that I am going to put on her. I may not do it all in one fell swoop but that's my goal....I just don't think it will get any better than that!!!

Johns 66 05-05-2017 11:38 PM

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Well, I have recovered after getting the estimate from the machine shop...

It is going to cost me 2000.00 to get the motor rebuilt....He is going to grind the heads and put 1.94/1.50 stainless valves, bronze valve guides, new timing chain, oil pump and screen, new springs and retainers, new cam, pistons, rings etc....do all the machine work and assemble it all....Parts and labor.

I will have at least 300 hp at the crank when they are done, which will be good.

So tonight I started back on the engine bay........More sanding, primer, sanding, primer...you kinda get the idea.....

I bought some rattle can paint from Home Depot called Black Stainless Steel metallic...wanted to see how it was going to look since I couldn't find Charcoal gray...I have to say that it looks pretty good...Ill have to put some more coats on it but the preliminary results are pretty good.

Ill get the rest of the engine bay painted tomorrow...gotta go get some more rattle can action in the morning.

Also started taking the rivets out of the 3 spd manual cross member...boy what a pain that is...but I'm saving the cross member and not just cutting it out...hopefully tomorrow that will be done.

After that then Ill start on the heater box and get it all taken care of

roll_the_dice 05-06-2017 12:34 AM

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Looking good John!

Johns 66 05-06-2017 05:43 PM

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Well today was a pretty good day with the ole 66...Got quite a bit accomplished, but still way more to do..I got the firewall and inner fenders painted with 2 coats of rattler can which I really like the metallic gray color but am torn about just going back with satin black...since I am painting the motor the original color of greenish blue I am unsure how that in gonna look,,,but I guess we will see. So here are some pics of the engine compartment.

I know it looks splotchy but trust me those are shadows...I finally realized that after awhile.....

Johns 66 05-06-2017 06:02 PM

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I then decided to tackle the cross member...The bottom ones I used a grinder and ground the heads down then used an air hammer and popped the rivets out....Then it was time for the top side....and to be really honest it wasn't that bad......I used a 14 tooth metal cutting sawz all blade and it made pretty quick work of the ...although I used a new blade on each rivet.....so the original cross member is intact and can be reinstalled using some bolts and nuts, if someone decided to make the truck original again...BTW I am keeping all the original hardware for the future....made that mistake once and wont do it again.

So while I waited for the paint to dry, I sprayed rubberized undercoating underneath the cab, one of the front fenders....ran out and will have to order some more but it really did look pretty good.

So then my brother in law, Randy...which will now be referred to only as Randy...lol and I went to one of his friend house and got his blasting cabinet ( Thanks Danny) He has graciously allowed me to use it for as long as I need...

We got it back to Randy's shop and plugged it up...Of course I was like a kid with a new toy...I tested it on a couple of pieces to see how it would do...Exhaust Manifolds, battery box etc....and although I didn't complete any piece accept one...I was able to see what it would and would not take off...This is WAY better than sanding it, using a wire wheel on a drill or paying someone to do it.....I did get the upper radiator support completely blasted and primed..I must say that this will surely make it look a lot better.

Lastly I took the heater box apart to see what I was going to need...I checked the motor and it ran just fine...quietly.....So I will need a new gasket set once I get done cleaning and painting it.......but all in all today was a real good day.


OOOOOH I almost forgot to mention what all the machine shop said......It looks like the motor had been partially built...looks like from the bottom end with new rings...The ironic thing about it and I didn't even notice it until it was pointed out to me was that 3 off the pistons had been installed upside down...instead of the eye brows facing the top of the motor...yep you guessed it...they were facing the bottom.....I am SOOOO Glad that I decided on a complete rebuild....I think I would have blown a gasket after getting it painted and reinstalled and then grenade the motor because someone tried to take a short cut...I feel very blessed and the Good Lord is definitely taking care of me....He always does.


So for the next foreseeable future I will be blasting away at parts...its time consuming but I got plenty of time...Ill post things as I get them gone.

Machine shop said it would be about 2 weeks before they would be done...so I have some time to play with the ole blaster.

Johns 66 05-07-2017 10:11 PM

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Well today I got my first hand experience of using a blasting cabinet...I got a good but of things cleaned up and primed...I did get the heater completely cleaned up and a coat of primer put on it.

After I got that done I started working on the part for the motor...little things like wire looms, battery box, started working on the brackets along with several items that I know are going to be needed that the machine shop will not clean...so I'm getting those things blasted and putting a coat of primer on them as well.

I talked with Yelmer and he has the original paint code for the motor so it looks like I will have to have someone spray it for me since it doesn't come in rattle can...even though it will be the greenish blue color I want it to be done right.

I'm using the bed of the truck for storage of stuff since no one will bother I back there and I can kinda keep track if it that way.

Johns 66 05-07-2017 10:16 PM

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A few more pics...The last picture is of the original metal pipe that joins the radiator to the engine...it turned out pretty good

Classic v6 GMC's 05-07-2017 10:19 PM

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Parts are looking good! :chevy:

Johns 66 05-07-2017 10:30 PM

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Parts are looking good! :chevy:

Thanks so much...I'm going to see if I can find a gasket set to put the heater box back together....dont think that should be too hard to find....hopefully.

I figure I have a couple of weeks until I get my motor back and there is no reason to try to rush and get through....might as well just take my time and do it the best I can.

The rattle can looks ok but I am thinking that I may take this stuff and just have it sprayed when I have the motor sprayed......some stuff like the inside of the heater box really doesn't matter but I still want it to look good even though I'm gonna drive it like I stole it.

Once I get done blasting everything I can then I will do the rear brakes and get the power booster installed.

I'm a going to take the radiator and the heater core and have them checked out and cleaned while I have everything apart.

GMDad 05-07-2017 11:46 PM

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Making good progress and you will get a lot of satisfaction out of doing the majority of the work yourself. Personally I like the rattle can spray and that is what I used under the hood on my 1965 pickup. I also like driving them.

roll_the_dice 05-08-2017 07:49 AM

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I like the rattle can spray also and that is what I am going to do under my hood also. Mine is and will be a driver. I don't want a show truck, but something we can use it for what it is intended...Looking great John.

Johns 66 05-08-2017 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by GMDad (Post 7936896)
Making good progress and you will get a lot of satisfaction out of doing the majority of the work yourself. Personally I like the rattle can spray and that is what I used under the hood on my 1965 pickup. I also like driving them.

Thanks Dad...I am sure loving working on my truck. I tried to contact the man I bought it from to see if I could find the original owner or anyone from his family but he has yet to respond...Im unsure if he thinks I am going to fuss...but I just wanted to try and find out a little more history on "Pawpaws" truck...I'll go to the DMV and see what they can tell me if anything.

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I like the rattle can spray also and that is what I am going to do under my hood also. Mine is and will be a driver. I don't want a show truck, but something we can use it for what it is intended...Looking great John.

Hey Andy...Thanks for stopping by. The metallic paint I choose for the firewall and inner fenders looks good but it is really hard to get a consistent layer, especially since its metallic...I think that color will look great on the inside when that time comes along with some silver highlights.

Once I get everything blasted Ill then paint it with the ole rattle can...Its taking a little longer because I don't have a great big air compressor but that is fine with me..beats the heck out of sanding it all down.

The really painful part is going to be trying to get all the little screws that hold the heater box cleaned up...Im gonna try to push them through a piece of cardboard and tape the backs to hold then in place.....so I can get them cleaned.

Ill be working on the engine stuff tonight after work..pulleys, brakets etc...

Once I get all of the small tings done...well whatever is small enough to put in the cabinet then I am going to start working on the frame...Im going to paint it with POR 15...I have heard great things about that stuff.

It will all come together when it is supposed to so Im not worried...My biggest thing right now is to get the motor back, and installed with the transmission to see how all of it is going to work....I am trying to find an original automatic steering column to put in it. I know if I use an original one then I will lose the ability to shift into 1...but in all honesty I have never shifter into one in any truck I have ever owned so that is no big deal to me

Johns 66 05-08-2017 09:29 PM

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Another night of blasting parts...mainly worked on the small parts for the engine tonight...brackets, pulleys, springs, etc....wasn't too terribly bad...I got one of the exhaust manifolds blasted...it was a pain...I guess because the material is so porous it just some time to get it cleaned...Some of the pictures look darker...its just a darker primer...they ran out of the light stuff so I just bought what they had.

Johns 66 05-08-2017 09:37 PM

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They parts that go above and beside the radiator has some type of gasket that was stapled to it....I think the guy who did that must have been paid by the staple cause Lord knows he put it to them....As I took the one picture I even noticed that I missed one....I wonder what kind of stapler they used to attach the gaskets? I guess Ill have to glues the replacements on.

I got some things ordered today...mainly small stuff like firewall grommets, door jamb switches, and of course some undercoating...hopefully I will have enough this time....

On the exhaust manifold someone welded the stud as you can see in the picture...of course its not straight...I think I will try and get those out and replace them.....will just have to see how bad they are.

Anyways here are some more pictures

Johns 66 05-09-2017 11:30 PM

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Well another night with the ole sandblasting cabinet....got the inside heater box cleaned and primed and did a lot of bolts and screws....also did the other exhaust manifold. I received my undercoating from Summit today so I got the entire bottom of the cab undercoated...Didn't take any pictures of that cause they wouldn't have turned out too good.

I did receive a call from the machine shop today....they got everything cleaned up and checked...One issue has come up that has me a little concerned.

They are unsure if 30 over is going to clean up the cylinder walls....he said he may have to go to 40 over...I'm kinda worried about cooling...I have always heard that anything over 30 will cause cooling issues...he doesn't seem to think so and I really would like to keep this motor since it is the original motor.....So what he is going to do is to measure the worst one, bored it out until it cleans up and see where we are at... I'm surely hoping the block can be saved. If it cant Ill cross that bridge when I come to it...no reason to worry now....but it looks like if it cant then a crate motor will be the best option...just have to wait and see.

I finally got some of my parts from Brothers...they seem kind of slow so not sure if I will be ordering from them again or not.

But here is a few pictures of what I got done tonight

Captainfab 05-10-2017 12:25 AM

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I wouldn't worry too much about going .040. With a good radiator, a good fan and a fan shroud, you should have absolutely no cooling issues.

TJ's Chevy 05-10-2017 11:46 AM

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Subscribed, you are doing great work man! Also glad to see something more unique engine wise! :chevy:

GMDad 05-10-2017 02:52 PM

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Them year motors can go .060 over with no problems. We use to race them at that.

Johns 66 05-10-2017 08:33 PM

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I wouldn't worry too much about going .040. With a good radiator, a good fan and a fan shroud, you should have absolutely no cooling issues.

Thanks John...I took the radiator and heater core to the shop this afternoon...I know the radiator leaks but am unsure if the heater core does...I don't think so but am gonna have it checked out as well.....The man said that even if it needed to be fixed I could still keep the original caps on either. The heater core has 66 stamped on one end. I do have the original fan shroud as well...But more on the motor below.

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Subscribed, you are doing great work man! Also glad to see something more unique engine wise! :chevy:

Thanks TJ...Kinda getting Baptized by fire...but its like Dad said earlier ...it is very rewarding....Didn't expect all this stuff with the motor but at least I do have time to get other things done and not feel rushed.

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Them year motors can go .060 over with no problems. We use to race them at that.

Hi Dad....and all the rest.....I was called by the machine shop today, so after dropping the radiator off I went by to check on things....It was a good news bad news type of thing.

7 cylinders cleaned up at 40 over...YEA!!!!:metal: But this is a V8:whine:

The last cylinder would not cleanup at 40.....the guy said he knew it would clean up at 60. So I watched as he bored it out at 60 over, sure enough it cleaned up at 60. Here is where it gets kinda tricky....He said that he could bore the rest of them out to 60 and I "Should" be fine...but this is Alabama and it does get kinda hot down here...especially if I decide to eventually add air conditioning.....Based on his experience 60 over is a little much especially if you get caught in traffic, or going on a cruise at lower speeds, parades etc....

So option 1 was to bored the cylinder out and put a sleeve in it so that everything would be 40 over. He builds numerous motors around here for the dirt track guys and has tons of sleeved motors..I will not be turning near the hp that those guys do nor the compression they run.

Option 2 was try to find a replacement blocked coded the same...good luck with that..while I'm sure I would eventually find one, who is to say it wouldn't be in the same condition.

Option 3 was to cry and just buy a crate motor and be done with it.


I told him what I was trying to do by keeping the original motor in the truck...Call me crazy but I really do prefer to have that block that came with the truck sitting in the truck for as long as I can drive it....

So based on our conversation today here is what I am going to do...He is going to bore it out and put the repair sleeve in it to and ensure its 40 over just like the rest of the cylinders....He is going to put a cam that goes into a 68 Camaro ( should bump it up to around 325 hp give or take a few...not chasing a number anyways), stainless steel valves 1.94/1.50, new springs, retainers, bronze valve guides, oil pump, timing chain, pistons, rings bearings etc....you get the idea...a completely rebuilt motor.

I was really concerned about the sleeve so to put my mind at ease he told me that if I broke the motor in based on his direction that he would give me a 2 year warranty and that if the sleeve was ever the problem he would rebuild it for nothing....So I cant beat that...He knows I'm not gonna race the motor, probably drive 70mph tops..So I feel pretty comfortable with having the sleeve put in it.

He said the crank looked really good and all it needs is polishing. So its a wash on the cost.....Total cost is 2100.00


So I called the radiator shop back and asked if possible they could put 4 cores into it...just to be safe...It has a 3 core in it now. He said he would check on it...I have the original fan shroud although I don't think it was installed right by ricky the redneck who tried to build the motor before. I have the original metal pieces that go beside and above the radiator . I talked with Yelmer and he told me that as long as I put the seals back on it, make sure the fan shroud is installed correctly that the motor will pull enough air to keep it cool at any temp....If by chance it does not keep it cool enough then I can always install electric fans to keep the temp down but honestly I think it will be fine.

So besides running around I took the night off from sandblasting, priming and sandblasting some more.

I should have the motor back before next Wednesday...but will then have to do the graduation circuit for my nieces and nephews so Ill be out of pocket a few days.

I did find a gasket set for the heater box and it should be on its was along with a few other small items I saw.

One thing is for sure...It will be mechanically sound before one drop of paint goes on the body.....Based on my estimates I plan on driving it all summer long and then having it painted over the winter...maybe just maybe they will be a little slow and it will be a little cheaper

Captainfab 05-11-2017 12:05 AM

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With a fresh 3 row core radiator, a fan shroud and a good fan,you will have no problems keeping that little 327 cool. Especially being so mildly built. The 4 row cores require wider tanks and consequently the lower saddles and top hold down need to be changed.

Johns 66 05-12-2017 08:47 AM

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With a fresh 3 row core radiator, a fan shroud and a good fan,you will have no problems keeping that little 327 cool. Especially being so mildly built. The 4 row cores require wider tanks and consequently the lower saddles and top hold down need to be changed.

Thanks John...I appreciate the knowledge and advice.

Radiator shopped called and said that the heater core was just fine...so they are going to back flush it and it should be good.

The radiator is a different kind of story...When I got the truck I knew it leaked...so before I left I put some grits in the radiator to stop the leak so I could get it home...Well it hasn't leaked since but I could tell that some of the fins were broke....They tested the radiator and it didn't leak...guess the grits are still holding up.

Anyways I decided to have new cores put in it...I figured since the motor was being rebuilt that no need to run an old radiator...So they are going to put a 3 core high efficiency set of cores in it.

Had to do chores yesterday so didn't get to work on the ole truck last night.

I did find an automatic steering column that I am going to be buying today...around 250.00...The company I bought it from has original columns and if I am correct they go through them and make sure everything is right....It also is adapted to work perfectly with the 700R4....so I will see when it gets here.

roll_the_dice 05-12-2017 09:31 AM

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John--I commend you for fighting to keep the original engine in the truck. I wish mine had the original engine and trans, I wouldn't change them unless I had to take them off life support! Mine will have a new crate engine and trans (ordered) and although I know it will run great, I wish it was all original like yours!

Keep up the good work.

Classic v6 GMC's 05-12-2017 09:54 AM

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Thanks John...I appreciate the knowledge and advice.

Radiator shopped called and said that the heater core was just fine...so they are going to back flush it and it should be good.

The radiator is a different kind of story...When I got the truck I knew it leaked...so before I left I put some grits in the radiator to stop the leak so I could get it home...Well it hasn't leaked since but I could tell that some of the fins were broke....They tested the radiator and it didn't leak...guess the grits are still holding up.

Anyways I decided to have new cores put in it...I figured since the motor was being rebuilt that no need to run an old radiator...So they are going to put a 3 core high efficiency set of cores in it.

Had to do chores yesterday so didn't get to work on the ole truck last night.

I did find an automatic steering column that I am going to be buying today...around 250.00...The company I bought it from has original columns and if I am correct they go through them and make sure everything is right....It also is adapted to work perfectly with the 700R4....so I will see when it gets here.

Can I ask who you are getting the steering column from?

Johns 66 05-12-2017 12:12 PM

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Can I ask who you are getting the steering column from?

A man named tony..4-5-6 Chevy I think its called

Johns 66 05-12-2017 03:05 PM

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John--I commend you for fighting to keep the original engine in the truck. I wish mine had the original engine and trans, I wouldn't change them unless I had to take them off life support! Mine will have a new crate engine and trans (ordered) and although I know it will run great, I wish it was all original like yours!

Keep up the good work.

Thanks Andy.....I know I am changing the transmission and that its not original but that is for usage more than anything...I plan on driving this truck a lot so mileage is a concern.

I know its probably crazy to keep the original radiator, heater cores etc especially since no one will even see the heater core and the radiator..well is a radiator and it would be cheaper to just buy a replacement.....BUT its not the same...probably the same with the motor but just something about having the original motor is better for me.....my other had a ZZ383 Stroker with 425Hp way too much power...couldn't put it to the ground.

Im going to change a few things just for conveniences sake like adding the door jamb switches a few other little things...but like the old truck the way it is.

roll_the_dice 05-12-2017 03:36 PM

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Thanks Andy.....I know I am changing the transmission and that its not original but that is for usage more than anything...I plan on driving this truck a lot so mileage is a concern.

I know its probably crazy to keep the original radiator, heater cores etc especially since no one will even see the heater core and the radiator..well is a radiator and it would be cheaper to just buy a replacement.....BUT its not the same...probably the same with the motor but just something about having the original motor is better for me.....my other had a ZZ383 Stroker with 425Hp way too much power...couldn't put it to the ground.

Im going to change a few things just for conveniences sake like adding the door jamb switches a few other little things...but like the old truck the way it is.

I understand changing the trans, but I like manuals, so that is what I am sticking with. I ordered my engine/trans combo last week along with vintage air, new aluminum radiator from a board sponsor, and a new gas tank. None of those were original on my truck when I bought it. I am going with a crate engine, only a 300HP but with EFI and a 6 speed Tremec T56 trans. I plan to cruise and put some miles on it too. I always have at least one vehicle that is a manual...now I have 3 out of 4 with only my DD not a manual and I looked for a manual when I bought it. :D Fortunately, my wife prefers a manual also, so she is a keeper. haha

I am probably 3-4 weeks behind where you are, so I plan on using your thread when I start mine. I plan on doing the same...pull the engine so I can do engine bay cleanup and painting...rewire the truck...install new gas tank, then engine, trans, and radiator. Like you, I want the truck mechanically sound before I tackle any cosmetic issues.

It is cool here today...90 degrees..I just got home from taking the truck out...sure will be nice when I have the a/c installed!

Johns 66 05-12-2017 03:54 PM

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I understand changing the trans, but I like manuals, so that is what I am sticking with. I ordered my engine/trans combo last week along with vintage air, new aluminum radiator from a board sponsor, and a new gas tank. None of those were original on my truck when I bought it. I am going with a crate engine, only a 300HP but with EFI and a 6 speed Tremec T56 trans. I plan to cruise and put some miles on it too. I always have at least one vehicle that is a manual...now I have 3 out of 4 with only my DD not a manual and I looked for a manual when I bought it. :D Fortunately, my wife prefers a manual also, so she is a keeper. haha

I am probably 3-4 weeks behind where you are, so I plan on using your thread when I start mine. I plan on doing the same...pull the engine so I can do engine bay cleanup and painting...rewire the truck...install new gas tank, then engine, trans, and radiator. Like you, I want the truck mechanically sound before I tackle any cosmetic issues.

It is cool here today...90 degrees..I just got home from taking the truck out...sure will be nice when I have the a/c installed!



Well Brother its gonna cool off there soon..Starting to rain here now so Im sure its on your way...We needed a good soaking rain.

I didn't even consider a 6 speed manual...really never thought about it...My 2010 Camaro had a 6 spd...BUT since my Randy is gonna build me one and Im not gonna have anything in it...it just seemed like the best way to go for me.


I am keeping all the original parts that I am taking off...even got the cross member out without damaging it, have all the rods, connectors etc...that I am gonna clean up and put way for the future...even if I never put the manual back in it, it will always be an option....

Gonna take the weekend off from the truck, since its Mothers Day and all...I may do a little tomorrow but not for long.

Hoping my gasket sets come in for the heater box so I can get it put back together.

Captainfab 05-13-2017 12:27 AM

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Be very careful......you might want to check out the review section of this forum.

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Originally Posted by Johns 66 (Post 7941046)
A man named tony..4-5-6 Chevy I think its called


Johns 66 05-13-2017 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Captainfab (Post 7941606)
Be very careful......you might want to check out the review section of this forum.

Thanks John for the heads up...I wondered why they wouldnt accept paypal or credir cards...
So the search for an auto steering column continues.
I really would like an original one so the look stays the same and I could use my original steering wheel

Love this site and its great members...always helping out.

Johns 66 05-16-2017 10:53 AM

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Well not much to report as of now...I am waiting on the machine shop to get the motor finished, waiting on the radiator shop to get the radiator rebuilt.

I am still looking for a steering column but do have a couple of leads thanks to Andy
(Classic V6 Gmc's) I have sent them a couple of messages so maybe soon I will be able to find one.

I did get the instrument cluster with gauges last night when I got home...Ill post some pictures of it..It does have a cracked lens but I am replacing that anyways.....Not much if any of the wiring harness came with it but that's ok I was gonna change it anyway...Ill post some pictures of it when I start on on...I read the rebuild thread on how to do it so Im gonna tackle that as well...yall pray for me..lol Lord knows I need it.

Seriously it should be fine.

Gotta do the graduation circuit starting Wednesday so Ill be away from home this weekend..but family comes first......

Johns 66 05-22-2017 08:49 PM

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Well back at it again...almost. Graduation was extremely nice...I had no idea how these kids are sooo smart...both got several scholarships for academics...So very proud of them.

Went by and picked up the radiator and heater core from the shop. I will say the old radiator core was surely clogged up...not sure if that thing had even been flushed....Several of the rows had calcium deposits built up. So I am relatively sure that it was a good idea to have the cores replaced...They put an aluminum high efficiency 3 core radiator into it......Its pouring down rain now so I cant take any pictures of it but I will tomorrow.

I also went by the hospital ( machine shop) for visiting hours and checked on the patient.....All the prep work has been done...One final polishing of the crank is needed, all the parts have came in and the rods have been attached to the pistons...Heads have been completed....I must say that they look pretty good...those stainless steel valves look pretty awesome sitting in the heads and you can definitely tell that are bigger than the stock ones.....I think this thing is gonna breathe just fine.

I am waiting on a couple of people to get back with me on some parts I need..Sent CaptainFab a PM and another person concerning a steering column.

A couple of things I have ordered are starting to come in now, but am still waiting on the gasket set to get here so I can put the heater box back together and get it painted, then re-installed.

I am trying to get everything done under the hood before I move further...this way once I shut the hood the engine bay will be complete

Anyways here are a few pics from the machine shop......The single cylinder picture id the cylinder that the sleeve was put in...Looks good to me. Matt ( Machine Shop Guy) said that the engine block and all the parts still has to be cleaned again before he will start putting it together.

He did tell me that he had over 8 hrs alone just in the heads, boring them out and building them.

Classic v6 GMC's 05-22-2017 10:25 PM

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Engine parts look good!!

Johns 66 05-23-2017 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Classic v6 GMC's (Post 7949685)
Engine parts look good!!

Thanks Andy. Matt is taking his time and doing a few little extra things just to make it work more efficient. He has smoothed out the oil galleys under the intake so that the oil will flow more smoothly to the pan.

He is also cleaning the oil ports on the crank to ensure everything is clean...He told me that he has the final polishing on the crank left to do and then he is going to clean all the ports one more time.

I also forgot to mention that he shaved the heads down 20 thousands just to give it a little more compression and horsepower. He said that when he degress the cam in that he will do it in such a way as to get the torgue on the bottom end, especially since he knows what the truck is going to be used for.

I feel pretty confident in his abilities and knowledge at this point...Just cant wait to get it back in.

Johns 66 05-23-2017 10:27 PM

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Well went and played in the sand a little tonight...Got some more things blasted and started working on the instrument cluster....Not sure how that is going to turn out...kinda feel I'm in over my head when it comes to that thing.....but I will see how it goes....
Here are some pictures that I have been meaning to post...first couple are of the radiator with its new high efficiency aluminum core...Radiator shop painted it but I'm thinking I may have to sand it down and repaint...kinda rough for my taste......

As you can see on the heater core is still has the 1966 marking/stamp on one end....think that's pretty cool although no one will ever see it..lol


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