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Just call me Sean 12-23-2020 10:27 PM

Re: Picked up a GM 14 bolt rear end for the 63 C20
 
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I have this:

Asshat 12-23-2020 10:32 PM

Re: Picked up a GM 14 bolt rear end for the 63 C20
 
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Originally Posted by Just call me Sean (Post 8853897)
I have this:

That helps, but I don’t think it is exactly like mine.

The #7 spring that I have is shaped differently.

I also don’t have #2, not sure what it’s called.
EDIT: I think that is the parking brake strut. I probably don’t need this, if I am not using the ebrake, right?

Just call me Sean 12-23-2020 10:45 PM

Re: Picked up a GM 14 bolt rear end for the 63 C20
 
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#2 is the parking brake strut. The shape of the spring may look different but it works the same.

cwcarpenter98 12-23-2020 11:14 PM

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Sorry for the poor orientation, but hopefully this will help some on where the self adjuster arm thingy is supposed to go

Asshat 12-23-2020 11:41 PM

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Ok. I think I’m getting closer.

Asshat 12-23-2020 11:43 PM

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Not sure about these two parts.

cwcarpenter98 12-23-2020 11:43 PM

Re: Picked up a GM 14 bolt rear end for the 63 C20
 
Yup, looks like you've got it!

That E clip I believe is for the parking brake cable that you aren't using since you have the brake on the back of your transmission. If you swap transmissions, it wouldn't be too hard to convert to the cable system from a 66 truck. I'm not sure what that other piece is for though

Just call me Sean 12-23-2020 11:59 PM

Re: Picked up a GM 14 bolt rear end for the 63 C20
 
The clip holds a bracket to the brake shoe and the emergency brake cable attaches to the bracket. You can see the bracket in carpenters picture. I don't know what that other part is.

Steeveedee 12-24-2020 04:10 PM

Re: Picked up a GM 14 bolt rear end for the 63 C20
 
That other piece is a spring steel plug that replaces the rubber plug for the adjuster star.

I also notice that the self-adjuster lever is not correct. The portion that is swaged over to contact the star is too far along and will not engage properly. It will be obvious if you look at the "top" of Christian's pic in post #44.

Asshat 12-24-2020 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Steeveedee (Post 8854231)
That other piece is a spring steel plug that replaces the rubber plug for the adjuster star.

I also notice that the self-adjuster lever is not correct. The portion that is swaged over to contact the star is too far along and will not engage properly. It will be obvious if you look at the "top" of Christian's pic in post #44.

I realigned the assembly, it may have been out of place. Is that what you are referring to?

Steeveedee 12-24-2020 09:01 PM

Re: Picked up a GM 14 bolt rear end for the 63 C20
 
Yup, and that little purple(?) spring is the return spring for the adjuster lever.

Asshat 12-25-2020 07:36 PM

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Looks like the drums I have are too deep. Mine are 4.75” deep, from the face of the wheel mounting surface. And the rear end is 4.0”.

Anyone know what drums would be correct?

Guess I gotta figure out what vehicles had a GM 14-bolt 8-lug rear end.

Just call me Sean 12-26-2020 06:23 PM

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Yours looks different than mine, but I checked it. It's from my '93. I'm pretty sure there is a light duty/heavy duty brake option though.

Asshat 01-02-2021 07:32 PM

Re: Picked up a GM 14 bolt rear end for the 63 C20
 
Finally got it in. Found the correct drums too; 4-5/8” overall height.

And, the noise is gone! Drove it around the block and that horrific noise I had before is a thing of the past. However, I need to remove the trans, it’s leaking from the from someplace up front. Damn, thought it would be all good.

Feels a bit easier to drive too, not geared so low. It’s 4:10, but much better than the 4:56.

Had a difficult time bleeding the brakes again, got all the air out and didn’t have pedal pressure. After adjusting them, I got the pedal pressure back. However, it must be too tight, cause the truck doesn’t roll. If I get the truck to roll a little it just stops when I push the clutch in. I’m afraid if I ease up on the adjustment I will lose some of that pedal pressure.

Also need to re-adjust the axle position. Don’t have and adjustable pan hard bar, so I’m contemplating cutting the weld on the bracket and getting it into position. It’s off by about an inch; not sure if it’s worth buying the adjustable pan hard bar from Brothers. Are they the only outfit to offer an adjustable pan hard bar?

SCOTI 01-02-2021 11:29 PM

Re: Picked up a GM 14 bolt rear end for the 63 C20
 
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Originally Posted by Asshat (Post 8858163)
Finally got it in. Found the correct drums too; 4-5/8” overall height.

And, the noise is gone! Drove it around the block and that horrific noise I had before is a thing of the past. However, I need to remove the trans, it’s leaking from the from someplace up front. Damn, thought it would be all good.

Feels a bit easier to drive too, not geared so low. It’s 4:10, but much better than the 4:56.

Had a difficult time bleeding the brakes again, got all the air out and didn’t have pedal pressure. After adjusting them, I got the pedal pressure back. However, it must be too tight, cause the truck doesn’t roll. If I get the truck to roll a little it just stops when I push the clutch in. I’m afraid if I ease up on the adjustment I will lose some of that pedal pressure.

Also need to re-adjust the axle position. Don’t have and adjustable pan hard bar, so I’m contemplating cutting the weld on the bracket and getting it into position. It’s off by about an inch; not sure if it’s worth buying the adjustable pan hard bar from Brothers. Are they the only outfit to offer an adjustable pan hard bar?

Brothers, POL, CPP, Porterbuilt, & you can always tweak on original bar to make it adjustable (look in the suspension FAQ area).

Asshat 01-02-2021 11:55 PM

Re: Picked up a GM 14 bolt rear end for the 63 C20
 
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Originally Posted by SCOTI (Post 8858297)
Brothers, POL, CPP, Porterbuilt, & you can always tweak on original bar to make it adjustable (look in the suspension FAQ area).

Tweak the original pan hard bar?? That thing is so friggin heavy! How the heck?

Asshat 01-03-2021 12:01 AM

Re: Picked up a GM 14 bolt rear end for the 63 C20
 
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Originally Posted by SCOTI (Post 8858297)
Brothers, POL, CPP, Porterbuilt, & you can always tweak on original bar to make it adjustable (look in the suspension FAQ area).

That one from POL needs a different bracket, I’m wondering if the one from Brothers just bolts right up to the stock mounts.

Steeveedee 01-03-2021 12:35 AM

Re: Picked up a GM 14 bolt rear end for the 63 C20
 
You only need to back the brakes off a couple of clicks on the adjusters to get the friction reduced to where the truck will roll without resistance but still have a nice firm pedal. Play with it.

Asshat 01-03-2021 01:02 AM

Re: Picked up a GM 14 bolt rear end for the 63 C20
 
What about the trans leak? Do these early transmissions have a seal on the input shaft? Is this probably where it’s leaking from?

Asshat 01-03-2021 01:03 AM

Re: Picked up a GM 14 bolt rear end for the 63 C20
 
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Originally Posted by Steeveedee (Post 8858330)
You only need to back the brakes off a couple of clicks on the adjusters to get the friction reduced to where the truck will roll without resistance but still have a nice firm pedal. Play with it.

Yes - going to try this. Hope it works.

Asshat 01-03-2021 09:26 PM

Re: Picked up a GM 14 bolt rear end for the 63 C20
 
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Originally Posted by Asshat (Post 8858336)
What about the trans leak? Do these early transmissions have a seal on the input shaft? Is this probably where it’s leaking from?

It’s up on jack stands now. I’m thinking it’s a trans leak, since the puddle on the ground was not hot and it was more heavy/sticky than regular oil. Hoping I can run it on jackstands and eventually see where the oil is leaking.

My initial inspection did not make me believe it is coming from the from shaft cover of the trans.


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