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53Sparky 12-27-2020 11:36 PM

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 
There are other ways to affect the way a bass reflex enclosure is tuned that is not directly related to volume. By varying the amount of polyfill that you use within the box, you can simulate a larger enclosure and achieve performance results that match a larger box with less fill.

In other words, while there is absolutely a precision level of science to all of this, which SkinnyG has so proficiently demonstrated, you also have some wiggle room with the size of your enclosure which complements the science with duct tape and bandaids.

88Stanger 12-28-2020 12:22 AM

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 53Sparky (Post 8855412)
There are other ways to affect the way a bass reflex enclosure is tuned that is not directly related to volume. By varying the amount of polyfill that you use within the box, you can simulate a larger enclosure and achieve performance results that match a larger box with less fill.

In other words, while there is absolutely a precision level of science to all of this, which SkinnyG has so proficiently demonstrated, you also have some wiggle room with the size of your enclosure which complements the science with duct tape and bandaids.

I do plan on installing poly fill. Thanks for the comments.

88Stanger 12-28-2020 12:25 AM

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 
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Here is the box so far

88Stanger 12-28-2020 03:12 PM

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 
So after the great advice from SkinnyG, i redid a few of the dimensions, of course after cutting the front piece and now i need a complete new sheet, but live and learn. After all calculations are in, the box ended at free air (not including the vent) of 1.18 cubic Ft. Then taking the vent at .11 cubic ft from the i ended up with 1.07 cubic ft of air space per sub. I will be adding poly fill also to increase the "air Space" a small amount, but overall i am happy with it.

SkinnyG 12-28-2020 05:18 PM

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Very cool. I have a similar slot port box in my '77 with a single 12".

There is talk that a "slot" port like that will act a little lower than a regular port in an "open" box, as the "walls" the port uses extend the tuning frequency lower than the actual "port wall" itself is cut to. I think you add half the port height/width to the tune length, but I've forgotten exactly.

However,

It's going to thump awesome. It'll work.

I'd stuff some poly fill in there regardless.

88Stanger 12-28-2020 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyG (Post 8855705)
Very cool. I have a similar slot port box in my '77 with a single 12".

There is talk that a "slot" port like that will act a little lower than a regular port in an "open" box, as the "walls" the port uses extend the tuning frequency lower than the actual "port wall" itself is cut to. I think you add half the port height/width to the tune length, but I've forgotten exactly.

However,

It's going to thump awesome. It'll work.

I'd stuff some poly fill in there regardless.

Thank you sir, i plan to stuff some poly in it for sure. Just now we are waiting on the subs... hard to get...

88Stanger 01-03-2021 12:28 PM

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SkinnyG (Post 8855705)
Very cool. I have a similar slot port box in my '77 with a single 12".

There is talk that a "slot" port like that will act a little lower than a regular port in an "open" box, as the "walls" the port uses extend the tuning frequency lower than the actual "port wall" itself is cut to. I think you add half the port height/width to the tune length, but I've forgotten exactly.

However,

It's going to thump awesome. It'll work.

I'd stuff some poly fill in there regardless.

So I just wanted to give you a big shout out! since talking with you and then i increased the box size, I got a message back from JL Audio. The developer for their boxes emailed me back with what he thought about my dimensions for the entire box including the port. He said that the tuning frequency of the box will be right around 33.15 HZ and the response curve and port velocity should be great. So again, Thanks for your responses especially. I appreciate all the others too, but you really got me back into paying very close attention to dimensions.

SkinnyG 01-03-2021 04:21 PM

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 
(big.grin)

88Stanger 01-04-2021 12:23 AM

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 
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Used a jig to get holes cut.

88Stanger 01-04-2021 12:24 AM

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Part done

88Stanger 01-04-2021 12:25 AM

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Done

88Stanger 01-04-2021 12:26 AM

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Painted

88Stanger 01-04-2021 12:28 AM

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Speaker wire connectors

88Stanger 01-04-2021 12:29 AM

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Box set into its place, plenty of room, suggestions how to secure it there?

88Stanger 01-04-2021 12:30 AM

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2nd pic

SkinnyG 01-04-2021 01:42 AM

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 
OEM-looking gas tank straps would be cool.

88Stanger 01-04-2021 10:51 AM

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 
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Originally Posted by SkinnyG (Post 8858747)
OEM-looking gas tank straps would be cool.

hmm.. Interesting thought there, i must look into this.

jlsanborn 01-04-2021 02:56 PM

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 
Very cool build! Looking forward to catching up on this one.

88Stanger 01-04-2021 04:29 PM

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 
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Originally Posted by jlsanborn (Post 8858914)
Very cool build! Looking forward to catching up on this one.

Thank you. It has been and continues to be an adventure... lol

88Stanger 01-04-2021 09:13 PM

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 
Ok everyone, i am looking for suggestions for Aluminum Radiator with Electric Fan/Shroud. Please give input. I find them from stock looking replacements to really wide ones. not sure what is best, easy, yada yada... 3 - Row, 4 - Row, 1 large fan, 2 smaller fans.... damn help someone please..

88Stanger 01-04-2021 09:48 PM

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 
I am currently looking at a 4-row with electric fan and shroud by Alloyworks.

88Stanger 01-04-2021 10:04 PM

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 
Well now looking at reviews.... maybe we do Cold Case radiator?

roll_the_dice 01-04-2021 10:59 PM

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 
I used RND fabrication...made in the US and are a sponsor. I use a Derale electric fans...2000 CFM...one for cooling one when the A/C kicks on. I think one fan would have been enough...but 2 is more better right? LOL

88Stanger 01-05-2021 10:38 AM

Re: Starting 1966 Factory Short Bed Build, Bagged, 383 Stroker and Muncie M20 4-Speed
 
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Originally Posted by roll_the_dice (Post 8859138)
I used RND fabrication...made in the US and are a sponsor. I use a Derale electric fans...2000 CFM...one for cooling one when the A/C kicks on. I think one fan would have been enough...but 2 is more better right? LOL

Sorry for my confusion, but when you say sponsor, you mean a sponsor here on the site? Did you buy the rad. with fans or without?

roll_the_dice 01-05-2021 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by 88Stanger (Post 8859274)
Sorry for my confusion, but when you say sponsor, you mean a sponsor here on the site? Did you buy the rad. with fans or without?

Yes, sorry for the confusion...site sponsor. I bought it with a single fan, but I took my truck to have my A/C finished/charged and they said they recommended a second fan dedicated for the compressor. So I put a new shroud and fan on the radiator (Derale). In hindsight, I don't think I needed it. So now I have an extra fan...ugh! This was before the new fan/shroud with single fan. I don't have a picture yet of the new fans.


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