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Hart_Rod 11-11-2009 08:45 PM

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ADD can be a good thing, ;). I'm glad the manifolds worked out. Do you think the that compressor would work with my Magnacharger setup?

Rokcrln 11-11-2009 09:17 PM

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I don't know, I would need a good front shot with the belt on to see. I will have mine done by morning so I will post up a few pics when done. I have seen a company out their that sells a kit to mount a York style off the side of the ALT bracket but it looks terrible and runs off a single small V-belt. My set up will look real clean and uses a 6 rib 7/8 belt.

Kevin
LFD Inc.

Hart_Rod 11-11-2009 09:31 PM

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Looking forward to seeing the final setup. Here's a front shot.

VA72C10 11-12-2009 12:14 AM

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Well, I for one am glad the tahoe got some much deserved attention :lol:

Rokcrln 11-12-2009 12:40 AM

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Now I need a shot of the ALT and the clearance to the blower. That is were it will be tight.

I got a little bit ahead of my self and cut off a mounting ear on the factory ALT. bracket so I would have clearance for the A/C pump only to realize I did not have the coil packs mounted and the A/C pump hit them:waah: So now I get to weld it back in place in order to make a nice clean belt adjuster that will use that stock mounting tab. I have all the clearances worked out now so I just need to have a full day to build it all and order a few hiem joints for adjusters. With the larger diameter pulley on the A/C pump compared to the small ALT . pulley caused a bit of a clearance problem that was solved by sliding the A/C pump forward .045 and milling the head of the bolt off by .045 to get just enough room so they will not touch each other.

So in the morning I will Tig the ear I cut off back on and make the new ALT mounting bracket then find a belt that fits. You can also see their is about 1/4" of free space between the belt and the lower Radiator hose. How do you like how well the rear of the A/C pump fits around the coil packs and the end of the fuel rail? Just like it was meant to be!

Kevin
LFD Inc.

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Puropedo 11-12-2009 01:09 AM

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Wait,,,Am I getting this right?? You are going to be using that mustang a/c compressor to fill up your air suspension tanks?

Rokcrln 11-12-2009 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Puropedo (Post 3615733)
Wait,,,Am I getting this right?? You are going to be using that mustang a/c compressor to fill up your air suspension tanks?

Actually I am using a nippondenso compressor to fill my air tanks for my suspension ;) Most guys use the York style but they are too bulky and I have used this style for years with out failure. Plus once it is all said and done it will look like a factory set up.

Kevin
LFD Inc.

LOW DOUGH 11-12-2009 10:33 AM

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great work Kevin! That's really neat

Tagg33 11-12-2009 11:01 AM

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I've been looking into the Yorks for quite awhile now. An engine driven compressor for on board air is a very attractive idea. I look forward to seeing more on your setup. Since it was on a previous vehicle of yours I'm sure you already have all the air fittings, oiler, water trap, etc. When you get to it please show us all the parts and details, like you always do. ;)

Do you have a part number for us on the compressor? I've been wanting to put one in this smog pump spot.

70 Suburban 11-12-2009 11:18 AM

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How does the nippin denso oil... The york has an oil resivour.

Rokcrln 11-12-2009 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 70 Suburban (Post 3616158)
How does the nippin denso oil... The york has an oil resivour.

Good question! Here is what I was told years ago, the york is a piston pump much like a gas engine and produces a lot of friction and needs to be oiled often. The Nip is a rotary style and the veins have some type of wear coating on them and the friction is down to almost zero. If this is true I really don't know. What I do know is this one came from the pick-n-pull and was bolted to my rock crawler and used for 2 seasons with out oil ever being added and will keep a 1/4" die grinder full throttle with the motor at 1200 rpm's.

Now if need be they sell oilers that go inline and put a drop of oil in the system how ever often you set it for but I have never used one with this style of pump. I did use them back when I was running the Yorks back in the day but like I said this Nip pump has 2 years in the crawler and who knows how long in the car I pulled it from and still pumps great.

So I guess we will see just how it does if I ever get this beast on the road:lol:

Kevin
LFD Inc.

Rokcrln 11-12-2009 08:01 PM

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So after about 8 hours here is were I am with my set up. I still have some bracing to do on my comp once my 10mx170 bolts come in. It is a tight but good fit.


Kevin
LFD Inc.

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ccreddell 11-12-2009 08:15 PM

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Is it a bad angle, or are you not going to run the A/C comp?

Rokcrln 11-12-2009 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ccreddell (Post 3616933)
Is it a bad angle, or are you not going to run the A/C comp?

It is in the lower Passenger corner still hooked up for cabin air. It runs on its own belt that is behind the new belt.

Kevin
LFD Inc.

Ackattack 11-12-2009 09:14 PM

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I was going to mention you could relocate the coils off of the valve covers, but it looks like you already came up with your solution.

Looks great!

Rokcrln 11-12-2009 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Ackattack (Post 3617044)
I was going to mention you could relocate the coils off of the valve covers, but it looks like you already came up with your solution.

Looks great!


Trying to keep it simple looking and cheap!!

Kevin
LFD Inc.

Puropedo 11-13-2009 01:34 AM

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. The Nip is a rotary style and the veins have some type of wear coating on them and the friction is down to almost zero. If this is true I really don't know. What I do know is this one came from the pick-n-pull and was bolted to my rock crawler and used for 2 seasons with out oil ever being added and will keep a 1/4" die grinder full throttle with the motor at 1200 rpm's.
Kevin
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Kevin, what pressure readings do you think you'll be getting with that "vein compressor" in your tanks? I've heard "vein compressors" are known for air volume but not for pressure, what can you tell us about this?

ERASER5 11-13-2009 01:48 AM

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That model Denso is has a swash plate and double ended pistons. No veins. The valves are reed valves. Yes, the swash plate is tin coated as that is where the piston shoes ride. I have done testing on this model many times. They are very reliable pumps and hold oil very well. In fact, dumping the oil to measure it is a time consuming job. And there are millions of them in the bone yards. The Ford FS6 compressor is a near copy and there are even more of them in the yards.

Man! I miss that job!:whine:

woodwright 11-13-2009 02:45 AM

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What did these pumps come on? Both the Denso and the ford one. Is there a thread somewhere about how to convert one to an air ride compressor?

Rokcrln 11-13-2009 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Puropedo (Post 3617652)
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Kevin, what pressure readings do you think you'll be getting with that "vein compressor" in your tanks? I've heard "vein compressors" are known for air volume but not for pressure, what can you tell us about this?

I always had it set to turn off at 180psi.

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Originally Posted by ERASER5 (Post 3617670)
That model Denso is has a swash plate and double ended pistons. No veins. The valves are reed valves. Yes, the swash plate is tin coated as that is where the piston shoes ride. I have done testing on this model many times. They are very reliable pumps and hold oil very well. In fact, dumping the oil to measure it is a time consuming job. And there are millions of them in the bone yards. The Ford FS6 compressor is a near copy and there are even more of them in the yards.

Man! I miss that job!:whine:

You are correct I finally did some research yesterday and I found a site with pages of info on what guys are doing. They were using the Sanden style but I think they are close to the same style of internals. I pulled this one from the pick -n-pull years ago and it still works great.

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What did these pumps come on? Both the Denso and the ford one. Is there a thread somewhere about how to convert one to an air ride compressor?

Mine came off a 90 mustang 5.0L

Here is some good reading that EDFLORES posted up for me. http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f125/o...thread-215865/

Kevin
LFD Inc.

woodwright 11-13-2009 01:09 PM

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Cool. Thanks Kevin.

What about the smaller AC Delco compressors? Will they work? They are alot more compact.

70 Suburban 11-13-2009 01:42 PM

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There is a oiler for shop tools that you can use that will oil inline... That should work..

Rokcrln 11-13-2009 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by woodwright (Post 3618200)
Cool. Thanks Kevin.

What about the smaller AC Delco compressors? Will they work? They are alot more compact.

I have only used Yorks (bulky) and this kind I have here.

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Originally Posted by 70 Suburban (Post 3618247)
There is a oiler for shop tools that you can use that will oil inline... That should work..

Yep thanks!

Kevin
LFD Inc.

lolife99 11-13-2009 08:47 PM

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Do you really want an inline oiler?
Won't that screw up the valves?

The air needs to be dry.

Rokcrln 11-13-2009 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by lolife99 (Post 3618915)
Do you really want an inline oiler?
Won't that screw up the valves?

The air needs to be dry.

Well that would only be part of the set up. On the discharge side you then put an accumulator tank and an oil separator before going to the storage tanks. But in the past I have never added oil or an oiler and so far so good but if you are really going to be pumping lots of air it might be a good idea.

Kevin
LFD Inc.

Puropedo 11-13-2009 09:37 PM

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Thanks for the compressor link, it is really informative. Do you think the compressor that comes with the 5.3 vortech can do the same job? If I ever do my 5.3 conversion I wont be using the A/C, so it would be great to be able to use it for air supply.

Rokcrln 11-13-2009 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Puropedo (Post 3619008)
Thanks for the compressor link, it is really informative. Do you think the compressor that comes with the 5.3 vortech can do the same job? If I ever do my 5.3 conversion I wont be using the A/C, so it would be great to be able to use it for air supply.

I am sure it would, the hard part might be the lines. Both the SD5 (typical Sanden used in the link) and also the Nipen that I am using both have easily adaptable fittings on them. So doing the air lines would be a simpler task.

Kevin
LFD Inc.

Rokcrln 11-17-2009 08:58 PM

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Small progress but still progress. I narrowed my rear floor 4" to match the 2" per seat I had to do for wheel tub clearance. Then I trimmed the body for the tubs to slide in and tack weld. Once the body comes off I will finish the inner wheel wells and seal it all off. When aired out I have 1/2" from the top of the tire and 5/8" from the side wall to inner tub side. Also my seats clear the tub by about 5/8" as well just enough for upholstery to clear. The second row seats will need to go forward 2" so everything clears with them as well.

Kevin
LFD Inc.

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toomanytoyz 11-18-2009 12:31 AM

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Just a Couple of ??? for You

(1)Do u ever Sleep? Between Customer Builds, Your Own Builds, Constantly Coming up with New Improvements for our Trucks & Also Working a Regular JoB????????????

(2)Just out of Curiosty Do u always use the same tape measure When doing work with as close tolerances as u do? Not much Room for error with this type work??????

Anyhow, Many Thanks for Taking the Time to share with us, It Give's Hope & Inspiration to Many of us...............

Rick

tdave00 11-18-2009 10:38 AM

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Great work Kevin. I can't believe you aren't doing this for a living yet. Mucho talent brother.

Rokcrln 11-18-2009 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by toomanytoyz (Post 3626073)
Just a Couple of ??? for You

(1)Do u ever Sleep? Between Customer Builds, Your Own Builds, Constantly Coming up with New Improvements for our Trucks & Also Working a Regular JoB????????????

Their was a time between 86 & 90 were I slept a lot, but then again that was HighSchool:lol: Maybe if I listened more my spelling and grammar would be a bit better! Stay awake in school it is a short time that lasts for ever once you get out!

(2)Just out of Curiosty Do u always use the same tape measure When doing work with as close tolerances as u do? Not much Room for error with this type work??????

To be quite honest with you I do a lot of it by EYE and use the tape just to show in the pics what it is. Sure on important items I brake out the calipers and all but for this I was looking for things to clear and if I can get a finger in their when laid out then it should work. As for the tape I do really like the one in the pic. It is a SS model that was given to my by a Project Manager some years ago and it just never seems to wear out.

Anyhow, Many Thanks for Taking the Time to share with us, It Give's Hope & Inspiration to Many of us...............

Your very welcome, Now keep in mind I go through a lot of others builds on here and find cool tricks all the time as well. We all learn from each other.

Rick

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:agree:

Great work Kevin. I can't believe you aren't doing this for a living yet. Mucho talent brother.

I have a few other build ideas I want to get done first and on the show circuit before going full time but it will be in the next few years.

Kevin
LFD Inc.

my67chevytruck 11-18-2009 01:16 PM

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great progress Kevin!

LOW DOUGH 11-18-2009 04:02 PM

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Lookin good Kevin. I really like how you are using the newer seats and floor. It is neat that the second row will fold down.

Rokcrln 11-18-2009 05:11 PM

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I did a bit more work on the rear floor. I shaved about 1 1/4" off the under side of the floor where it was limiting my mounting height because it sitting on the rear diff tube work. I then plated it with some 1/8" steel for reinforcement. Now by doing this my rear floor will only be 2 1/4" higher then stock but still able to lay out on a 31" tall tire:metal:

Kevin
LFD Inc.

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SkullCandy 11-18-2009 08:14 PM

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So what's cheaper.. Buying a Brand new tahoe or building one with a classic body style?


Very nice!!!

Rokcrln 11-18-2009 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SkullCandy (Post 3627362)
So what's cheaper.. Buying a Brand new tahoe or building one with a classic body style?


Very nice!!!

Buying a new one with every option and real high interest rate's! I figure I have close to $10k just in the rear suspension, parts and labor.

Did some more work today on the passenger side wheel tub. Now I just need to make one to match for the drivers side.

Kevin
LFD Inc.

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6772owner 11-19-2009 10:27 AM

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That is just amazing craftsmanship, keep it up, I wanna see that thing in paint!

Rokcrln 11-19-2009 11:46 AM

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Thanks it has been fun (at times) but now I get to figure out where and how to put shocks on the rear. I need 9" of travel so the over all length will be about 23". My plan is they will fit between the wheel tub and floor just behind the second row seat. I will add to the front of the wheel tub to incorporate them in once I figure it all out. I wanted to get the seats and tubs in first to really see just how little space I have to work with. Should be fun:waah:

Kevin
LFD Inc.

BlueJeep 11-19-2009 11:56 AM

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How did you do the lip at the bottom of that filler panel? Is it a angle bent in the brake, stretch/shrink, then welded on or how did you get it like that?

Rokcrln 11-19-2009 12:02 PM

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How did you do the lip at the bottom of that filler panel? Is it a angle bent in the brake, stretch/shrink, then welded on or how did you get it like that?

No it is all one piece that was done in a power bead roller I have for building car bodies. Very expensive machine but you can use it for little things like this. Just makes for a better finished look even know it will all be covered in the end.

Kevin
LFD Inc.


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