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Addendum to front crossmember bolts....the 4 nylon insert nuts that hold the upper cross shafts are 1/2" x 20 fine thread. I checked all the local big stores out this weekend while out on errands....no luck. Did get them at Hurst Annaho @ $.50 each. Everything else was 7/16 coarse 1 1/2" length (14 total....10 w/nuts).

Don't know if it'll help anyone else in the future, but figured it wouldn't hurt to list.

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Buddy who lives in Enid OK turned me onto this sale....worth checking out. Closed in the 50's....one day only auction on June 7th
http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2...ed-to-auction/

Link with a list of whats being sold: http://www.vanderbrinkauctions.com/a...5&allimages=NO
FORD/LINCOLN/MERCURY INCLUDING VINTAGE RACE CARS:

FORD:1925 Ford Model T Body, 1929 Ford Model A Wrecker (Grandpa’s First Tow Truck)1932 Ford Model B, 1930 Ford Model A Sedan, 1930 Ford Model A Coupe, 1931 Ford Model A Slant Windshield 4dr Sedan, 1933 Ford 4dr Sedan, 1933 Ford Coupe, 1934 Ford Coupe Body, 1934 Ford Victoria Body, 1934 Ford PICKUP, 1934 Ford 2dr Suicide Sedan, 1935 Ford Coupe, 1935 Ford 2dr Sedan, 1935 Ford Standard 4dr Suicide Sedan,1935 Ford Deluxe 2dr Fast Back, 1936 Ford 2dr Coupe, 1936 Ford Coupe, 1936 Ford MOONSHINER’S TRUCK, 1937 Ford VINTAGE RACE CAR, 1937 Ford 4dr Sedan, 1937 Ford 4dr Sedan, 1937 Ford 2dr Standard Coupe, 1938 Ford Deluxe 2dr, 1938 Ford Deluxe 2dr coupe, 1938 Ford, 1939 Ford 2dr Sedan,1939 Ford Coupe, 1939 Ford Standard 2dr Coupe , 1939 Ford TRUCK, 2-1940 Ford Standard 2dr Coupe, 1940 Ford Standard Coupe- Opera Body, 1940 Ford Deluxe 2dr Sedan, 1940 Ford 2dr Sedan, 1941 Ford Super Deluxe 2dr Sedan, 19414 Ford 2dr Sedan,1941 Ford Deluxe, 1941 Ford Super Deluxe 2dr Sedan, 1941 Ford Super Deluxe 2dr Sedan,1941 Ford 2dr Standard,1942 Ford ? Black Out Model, 1942 Ford, 1949 Ford Sedan, AND MORE...

LINCOLN: RARE 1937 ALL ALUMINUM LINCOLN Model K, TYPE 357A VIN K8367 V-12, believed to be Willoughby Body, #10-206, RARE 1937 Lincoln Zephyr V-12 4dr Sedan, RARE 1939 Lincoln Zephyr 4dr Suicide V-12 Sedan, 1940 Lincoln, 1942 Lincoln 4dr Shell, MERCURY: 1947 Mercury 4dr Suicide Sedan, MORE…

CHEVROLET/GMC:

CHEVROLET: 1930 Chevrolet Pickup, 1936 Chevrolet 2dr Shell, 1936 Chevrolet Coupe, 1937 Chevrolet Pickup- awesome, 1937 Chevrolet, 1938 Chevrolet Master Deluxe 2dr Sedan (Honeymoon Car) 1939 Chevrolet Master Deluxe 2dr Sedan, 1939 Chevrolet Master Deluxe 4dr Suicide, 1939 Chevrolet Master Deluxe 2dr Sedan,2-1939 Chevrolets Sedans, 1940 Chevrolet 4dr suicide Sedan,1940 Chevrolet Master Deluxe 2dr Sedan, 1941 Chevrolet Special Deluxe 2dr, 1941 Chevrolet Master Deluxe 4dr Sedan, 1941 Chevrolet Special Deluxe 4dr Sedan, 1942 Chevrolet 2dr ? Black Out model, 1948 Chevrolet Fleet Master 2dr Sedan, 1950 Chevrolet Pickup, 1950 Chevrolet Deluxe 2dr Sedan Body,1956 Chevrolet 4dr Wagon, 1957 Chevrolet Bel Air 4dr Sedan, :1967 GMC Pickup, MORE…

OLDSMOBILE/PONTIAC/BUICK:

OLDSMOBILE: 1935 Oldsmobile 4dr Suicide Sedan, 1936 Oldsmobile 4dr Suicide Sedan, 1939 Oldsmobile 4dr Sedan, 1940 Oldsmobile 2dr Sedan, 1940 Oldsmobile 2dr Sedan, 1940 Oldsmobile 4dr Suicide Sedan, PONTIAC: 1935 Pontiac 4dr Sedan,1947 Pontiac 4dr Sedan, 1940 Pontiac, 1941 Pontiac 2dr Sedan, 1952 Pontiac Chiefton Coupe, 1955 Pontiac Chiefton 2dr Wagon, , BUICK: 1937 Buick 4dr Suicide Sedan, RARE 1937 Buick 4dr Suicide Fastback Sedan, 1938 Buick 4dr Suicide Sedan, 1939 Buick 2dr, 1939 Buick 8 4dr Suicide Sedan, 1939 Buick 2dr Sedan, 1940 Buick 2dr Coupe, 1940 Buick Super 8 4dr Sedan, RARE 1940 Buick Convertible Body,1941 Buick Special Torpedo Back 2dr Sedan, 1946 Buick Super 4dr Sedan, 1948 Buick Road Master, 1949 Buick 8, AND MORE…

CADILLAC- Several V-12’s:

1935 Cadillac Fleetwood Body,1939 Cadillac, 1941 Cadillac 4dr Sedan,

CORD- ROLLINS-MAXWELL-OTHER RARE MODELS:

RARE 1936 Cord Model 810 4dr Sedan, RARE 1937 Cord Model 812 4dr Sedan SUPER-CHARGED!,RARE 1924 Rollins, RARE 1917 Maxwell, 1931 Continental Devaux 4dr Sedan, RARE 1932 Federal Truck, 1937 International Truck, 1940 International Pickup, 1944 International Truck, MORE…

CHRYSLER/PLYMOUTH/DODGE:

CHRYSLER: 1939 Chrysler, 1940 Chrysler Windsor 4dr Suicide Sedan, 1940 Chrysler, PLYMOUTH: 1935 Plymouth Coupe, 1935 Plymouth 4dr Suicide Sedan, 1937 Plymouth 4dr Suicide Sedan, 1938 Plymouth 4dr Suicide Sedan, 1939 Plymouth, 1940 Plymouth 4dr Suicide Sedan, 1940 Plymouth, 1940 Plymouth Coupe Body Only, DODGE: 1935 Dodge Coupe Body Only, 937 Dodge 4dr Suicide Sedan, 1941 Dodge Luxury Liner Coupe, 1941 DODGE TRUCK, MORE…

STUDEBAKER/HUDSON/PACKARD- V-12’s/KAISER/DESOTO: STUDEBAKER:

1940 Studebaker Commander 4dr Suicide Sedan, 1940 Studebaker Commander Coupe, 1942 Studebaker 4dr Sedan, 1946 Studebaker 4dr Suicide Sedan, 1947 Studebaker 2dr Convertible, 1951 Studebaker 4dr Sedan, HUDSON: RARE 1940 Hudson Super 6 2dr Sedan, PACKARD: 1937 Packard, 1940 Packard 4dr Suicide, KAISER: 1940 Kaiser, 1950 Kaiser, DESOTO: 1940 Desoto 4dr Suicide, 1959 Desoto Fireflite 4dr Sedan, MORE…

HUNDREDS OF COLLECTOR PARTS FROM THE 1930’S & 1940’S!!!

4 ANTIQUE TRACTORS FOR PROJECT-PARTS: WC Allis, Case, Farmall

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Sure would be fun/interesting just to walk through the place. Thanks for sharing the info.

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So we're going?

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I agree....I'd love to get that 37 chevy truck....I bet the prices get like Lambrechts prices though.

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We can drive out if you want Austin. Haven't been through Enid since 2004 when we did a bunch of shows out in the Midwest.

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Ok, more progress on the front end rebuild. Even though the temps were in the 30's and it rained....I hobbited up in the shed and got the upper ball joints in and the last of the crappy paint removed from the new front coil springs. Got the rust prevention on and let it dry good over night. Should get to the lower 60's today, so maybe I'll get a coat of paint on tonight.

So far I'm pleased with the turn out. I'm never satisfied with how long it takes or the amount of work, but a few coats of acid and sodium hydroxide followed by rust treatment and a few coats of paint and the 64 donar front end is coming along nicely. Now if the weather would just cooperate some, I could get the damn thing installed.

Also...I've seen the upper ball joint bolts get installed both ways....is there a standard for which way to install? It'd be easier to switch them now if I need to. I've read a bunch of posts on it...most go with nuts up, but some with nuts down. I think I'll go with the majority and install the nuts up when I get home.

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If you guys make the Enid run, hit me up on your way through...:mm:

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For sure Don....we'll let you know.

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Pull the nuts and bolts out of those upper ball joints. Put the heads down (rubber boot side) and the nuts up (top side).

Otherwise, when you hook up the spindle the rubber boot will compress and very shortly get holes rubbed and torn in it from the nuts and the extra length of bolt that points toward the ground.

Remember....head down....nuts up an yer rubber won't get torn ..... You and yer ballsjoints will be happy and clean for the rest of yer life.

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Haha...gotcha Rich. I had planned to do this tonight, but its nice to know that it'll be correct.

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Yep. Ya shouldn't roll wif torn rubbers.

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I agree....easy fix. Gives me something to do in between paint on the springs tonight.

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OOH! I wanna go there! LOL! Man that's a ton a cars! Wish the lots were that big round these parts. Control arm is looking good! :chevy:

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Thanks TJ. Both arms look equally as good. I need to reverse the bolts on the upper ball joints tonight...no biggie. And pretty much ready to reinstall.

I'd like to go to the auction too.

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Control arms look good.

Bret

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Thanks. Got the bolts reversed last night in between working on the springs. The rust prevention was good and dry, so wiped them down and got some self etching primer down and then a light coat of paint. Let them hang overnight and I'll get another coat on tonight.

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I will be glad when the big shop is up and running, but the 12x12 shed is working for now. Looks much smaller in the pics, but I hung the springs from the rafters in the middle of the shed. Not ideal, but it's getting the job done with the elements I'm working with.

1st pic is with the rust prevention, 2nd in primer and last 2 with a light coat of paint.

Used some 40lb mono from one of my offshore fishing poles that needs respooled for the upcoming season to hang them. Works pretty good. The paint has been the easy part...if you 've never stripped coil springs....you've missed all the fun.

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Got another coat on the springs last night...no pics due to spray and run for my Dad's birthday. More updates this weekend. If weather holds, looks like engine/trans/front end may come off next weekend.

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making progress is what it's about, little here a little there.

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Thanks 61K10....with two full time jobs and playing paramedic when I have time, its about what I'm left with. But even the 20 minutes here and there and an hour or so here and there....it does add up in the long run. Now that the weather and time have changed up its opening up more time. Progress will come a little quicker when I get the front end off and the drivetrain out. I have all the parts, and that's been a huge part of the battle to just afford the parts that I needed (wanted). The engine build and trans were a lot of it. Of coarse I have to pick a trans that was short production....and even harder to find a factory hurst linkage kit and make it work with the Hurst truck style shifter. But I know I'll get what I want in the long run...and be satisfied with the quality.

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Been a slow day at the office, so working on the disk conversion. Does anyone have any preference to disk brake pads? Cost is from $12-60 and I know the CPP kit uses the 73-87 1.25" rotor pads. Also found a little diagram that may help some other doing the conversion since its not something to be found in the assembly manual.

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Wow 2 full time jobs and you are still churning out progress. You must be made of Energy. I work 50 hours a week and after 2-3 days working on the truck after work and my days off I am exhausted.

Bret

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Don't know how much progress, but definitely tons of work in small doses. Didn't have time to work on anything with the truck this weekend. Got the lower ball joints in Friday night and then realized I haven't painted the spindles and calipers yet...so that's my goal this week. Have to wait until at least mid week for the temps to get up some. Calling for 30's - 40's again. Hoping this is the last artic blast for the 2013 season at least. But....once spindles/calipers painted....it'll be time to pull the engine/trans and front end. Got a stainless steel brake line kit for the disk conversion from Brothers, so that help some with running the lines.

So starting with:
stock 230 / 3 speed mc318 unsychronized trans on the column, manual clutch, drum brakes on a single master, and will end up with disk brakes on a dual master, hydraulic clutch, big block and synchronized HD 3 speed trans (floor mount) and completely new front end suspension. Will be a lot of work and changes...will feel like a new truck.

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The rear end conversion to the posi will be pushed off a few weeks...but hopefully not too long as it'll make a big difference under the frame.

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One of my upcoming weekend projects

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Last day of the freezing temps and rain is here. Too cold to paint, but did get the calipers prepped for paint & hanging.

Also got a factory steel shroud in that I bought online for $50 from a parts yard. Covered in surface rust, but its actually a nice piece up close. No rot or pinholes and it'll clean up nice. Took a wire brush too it and some liquid rust converter to stop any future rusting until I can get cleaned up. Will try and work it into the engine conversion...as much as I hate too, I may have to trim it to make it work with the big block. I have a set of the later model v8 3 piece shrouds too, so if its too much modification on the barrel shroud, i'll use those and put the barrel shroud in the other 63.

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Nice find! Question on the crossmember bolts. Do you know if they are 7/16 14 or 20 pitch? Trying to round up some hardware for mine.

Bret

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They are all coarse thread, except for the 1/2" nuts for the bolts that hold the cross shafts to the crossmember. I used all grade 8 and the cost wasn't that bad. Maybe $16-18 all together. The oem hardware looked good still, but I just didn't see the point of tearing it down to not replace them and upgrade to a stronger bolt. We'll help with any disassembly/maintenance/upgrades that may happen in the future.

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Ok thanks. And I'm being dumb here but I assume that is the 14.

Bret

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Heres a great chart on grade 8 bolts. I have a laminated copy in my tool box. Has the torque loads also for plain and plated bolts. I use a gm specific torque chart for the front end work...i use the chart below as reference for frame parts and such.

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Awesome thanks a lot!

Bret

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Heres a good chart for grade 2 and 5 bolts.

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Thanks for the info.:metal:

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No problem at all. I have some fuel line charts that cover NPT, AN fittings and standard converions also that good if you ever run an stainless lines/fittings....somewhere around 1/2 way through this thread.

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nice find on the shroud. i do like those steel ones, they just look right to me. and i also appreciate the torque charts. going to print them out and paste on my tool box too.

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Thanks...I like the steel ones better than the plastic too, although this is the 1st barrel shroud I've personally found. They are normally removed when I find parts trucks. And no problem on the charts.

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Got some primer laid down last night while it was in the 60's....down in the 20's this a.m. and supposed to get back into the 60's by this afternoon....so hopefully some paint today.

These are the CPP stock conversion spindles. Looks like I got a good set, I know that others have had issues with CPP, but the machining all looks good on these. Went with an engine primer as I couldn't find a caliper primer locally. I have aluminum caliper/ spindle paint for the spindles and will do the calipers in black. to match the rest of the crossmember.

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I'll sure be glad to get my barn done and have a proper area to paint. And a decent workbench.......

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I have floor plans for a 50x30 three stall with a small loft office upstairs. I mention this because I can totally empathize with your longing for a nice place to do good work !!
We hope to break ground on it this summer while we are home in August. By then I will be done with this current build, but the shop will get its fair use none the less !!

Hang in there buddy, better days are on the way :metal: