The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network (https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/index.php)
-   projects and builds (https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/forumdisplay.php?f=197)
-   -   Daverods project 66 (https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=336798)

ruffrida2005 10-02-2009 08:53 PM

Re: Daverods project 66
 
Jason did a really good job building that kit. I wish I could have afforded it. Maybe you should just send it to me since i have his front raised crossmember.

ruffrida2005 10-02-2009 08:55 PM

Re: Daverods project 66
 
what you can do is cut out wholes with a holesaw in your carrier bearing crossmember. run your tubes through there and use turndowns.

ruffrida2005 10-02-2009 08:56 PM

Re: Daverods project 66
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by watahyahknow (Post 3545598)
been looking at the sd site for it seems it specially made for the older type truck i got a squarebody , theres some universal stuff on there though that could be usefull

Jason makes a kit for the 73-87 now, looks really good, built a little diffrent then Daves. It has a parrelle 4 link with a watts behind to keep the axle centered.

daverod 10-02-2009 08:57 PM

Re: Daverods project 66
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ruffrida2005 (Post 3549173)
what you can do is cut out wholes with a holesaw in your carrier bearing crossmember. run your tubes through there and use turndowns.

So they just dump out under the truck. In front of the rear wheels? My old cross member is coming out. You get a new one with the kit.

Strodder 10-02-2009 09:46 PM

Re: Daverods project 66
 
That's why I did mine this way. Make the exhaust routing easy. :smoke:

http://belair.smugmug.com/photos/640494839_BkEYx-M.jpg

daverod 10-02-2009 10:02 PM

Re: Daverods project 66
 
Ya I'm stealing your idea.:lol: I like the look. Have any extra bezals? Damn, looked on ebay their proud of those things.

daverod 10-02-2009 10:08 PM

Re: Daverods project 66
 
I'm still confussed on the pinon thing. Do I want the diff to point down 3 degress? I can't really change the angle of the trans. can I. If I look at my 64 it looks as if the diff. is pointing up. I still need to get a digital level so I can see what's really going on. If the rear of the trans. is pointing down then I want the diff. pointing up, right?:confused: Can I even weld the tabs on my axle or do I have to wait to set the engine/ trans, so I know what that angle is?

joe231 10-02-2009 10:30 PM

Re: Daverods project 66
 
if you don't mind it loud, just dump it after the cab;)

Nice work BTW :thumbs:

Alan's Classic 10-02-2009 11:09 PM

Re: Daverods project 66
 
Nice progress Dave:metal:

ruffrida2005 10-02-2009 11:59 PM

Re: Daverods project 66
 
Dave what you need to do is set your truck to what your ride hight is going to be. Set your pinion angle of the trans up 2-3* Then with the rear set at ride height you will set the pinion angle down 3*. The reason you do this is because the slip yoke in the trans will push in when lowering and raising. I asked Jason what he set his to when I was doing the front of mine at ride height and he said 3* on both. just opposet of eachother. hope you understand.

ruffrida2005 10-03-2009 12:00 AM

Re: Daverods project 66
 
Also when setting ride height you need to make sure that the carb is as level as can be then set your pinion anges from there.

daverod 10-03-2009 09:26 AM

Re: Daverods project 66
 
2 Attachment(s)
So it's sounding like I have to have the engine and transmission in before I can weld my tabs on the axle?:waah: Or can I just set the axle to the stock length at ride height, set it level, then use the swing arm bars on the side to change the angle after I get the engine trans in. It seems that adjusting the nuts on the swing arms will change the pinion angle? The tabs on top are welded on to the axle tube the swing arms are welded on to the bottom so adjustin the bottom must rotate the axle? I would like to finish the rear end without having to mounting my engine or trans.;)

daverod 10-03-2009 09:31 AM

Re: Daverods project 66
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Strodder (Post 3549257)
That's why I did mine this way. Make the exhaust routing easy. :smoke:

http://belair.smugmug.com/photos/640494839_BkEYx-M.jpg

Stupid question. The exhaust is on the inside of the frame how do you get it to the outside. You can't go under so you must go over. I was just wondering where.:uhmk:

Strodder 10-03-2009 10:55 AM

Re: Daverods project 66
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by daverod (Post 3549728)
Stupid question. The exhaust is on the inside of the frame how do you get it to the outside. You can't go under so you must go over. I was just wondering where.:uhmk:

No question is too stupid. Not asking is stupid.

I haven't quite figured that out yet. If I have to I'll make it go through the frame, but will reinforce it where the hole will be. I have to look at it again since I have it back on the lift. Maybe turn it out after the front wheels where the frame is higher. I'm putting block hugger shorty headers on it, so that will make it easier.

ruffrida2005 10-03-2009 11:31 AM

Re: Daverods project 66
 
Dave I wrote to Jason on the other forum trying to figure out what the pinion is supposed to be set at witht he 2 peice driveshaft. I forgot that's what yall have to have with this kit. I'm only running a 1 peice with my truck so it's a lot easier to work with. When I find out I'll get back with you. but what Dennis said about cutting through the frame is really easy, you just have to go back in and put metal around where you cut. I've thought about doing the same thing. but I'll have to see.

daverod 10-03-2009 11:41 AM

Re: Daverods project 66
 
3 Attachment(s)
Quote:

Originally Posted by ruffrida2005 (Post 3549879)
Dave I wrote to Jason on the other forum trying to figure out what the pinion is supposed to be set at witht he 2 peice driveshaft. I forgot that's what yall have to have with this kit. I'm only running a 1 peice with my truck so it's a lot easier to work with. When I find out I'll get back with you. but what Dennis said about cutting through the frame is really easy, you just have to go back in and put metal around where you cut. I've thought about doing the same thing. but I'll have to see.

I'm going to raise my bed so I don't have to cut the frame. Cutting a hole that big in the frame would scare me. Don't you think adjusting the nuts on the swing arms will change the pinion angle? Maybe it just moves the axle back? Guess I'll just tack it and see what happens.

daverod 10-03-2009 12:15 PM

Re: Daverods project 66
 
2 Attachment(s)
Ya baby. I was kind worried if I had my notch in the right spot or not. Got room to spare. I just looked at the pictures to get it in the right spot. Did'nt really measure anything.:lol:

Strodder 10-03-2009 01:29 PM

Re: Daverods project 66
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by daverod (Post 3549919)
Ya baby. I was kind worried if I had my notch in the right spot or not. Got room to spare. I just looked at the pictures to get it in the right spot. Did'nt really measure anything.:lol:

Nice job Dave :metal: Make sure your diff is square with the frame. Find an alignment hole in the frame that is in the same spot on both sides. Measure to the axles from those holes to make sure your axle will be aligned, or you will be crabbing down the road. :uhmk:

ruffrida2005 10-03-2009 02:30 PM

Re: Daverods project 66
 
I see what your talking about now on the lower link bars, By adjusting the threade rod end will change the pinion angle. I wont push the alxe back or bring it up since the top will be in the same spot regardless, just rotated either way. As far as cutting a whole in the frame. that's not a problems as long as you box around the frame in that area and add some plate on the outside or inside of the frame rail. I've seen others do it that way.

daverod 10-03-2009 02:42 PM

Re: Daverods project 66
 
Check it.:metal: Got to love the background music and quaility camera work. Damn I watched it about 3 times and it gave me a woodie.:four::smoke:

joe231 10-03-2009 03:07 PM

Re: Daverods project 66
 
Adjusting the lower links will change your pinion angle, but it will also change your axle center-line in relation to your notches...it would be best to get your pinion close and just make some fine tuning adjustments with the adjustable links

COOL VIDEO!!

ruffrida2005 10-03-2009 03:09 PM

Re: Daverods project 66
 
loooks good man I just watched it 3 times but didn't get a woodie, maybe I should watch it some more.

daverod 10-03-2009 03:14 PM

Re: Daverods project 66
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jgh64pkup (Post 3549158)
man dave your kickin ass and takin names

:lol: I know now what I'm I going to do all winter?

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe231 (Post 3549309)
if you don't mind it loud, just dump it after the cab;)

Nice work BTW :thumbs:

Still looking for ideas. Thanks Joe

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan's Classic (Post 3549374)
Nice progress Dave:metal:

:metal: Thanks Allan

daverod 10-03-2009 03:16 PM

Re: Daverods project 66
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ruffrida2005 (Post 3550108)
loooks good man I just watched it 3 times but didn't get a woodie, maybe I should watch it some more.

Ya It might take you a few more times. You're kinda use to this stuff.:lol: I'm a virgin. Guess I was kinda premature.:lol:

watahyahknow 10-03-2009 03:27 PM

Re: Daverods project 66
 
from the looks of the clip it seems to be working good , changing the pinionangle using the treaded rods should be possible but to move it down you need to lengthen to bottom one and shorten the top one , that way to axle stays where it is , the arc of travel might change a bit when there not parralel bars
i wonder if the angle is needed with the bars because its a pretty solid connection to the frame , usually they use the angle on leafsprings so it straightens when the leafs wind up under accelleration

daverod 10-03-2009 04:27 PM

Re: Daverods project 66
 
I just set it by eye and tacked it for now. When I know for sure I'll weld it on for good. I'm sure I can get a few degree's just by turning the nuts on the arms. I does'nt have much of an arc. It moves pretty much up and down. I don't think the pinion angle is as critical when your using a two piece driveline. There's twice as many u joints. I can always raise or lower the carrier bearing. Have to do some more research.;)

joe231 10-03-2009 04:56 PM

Re: Daverods project 66
 
It is even more critical with a 2 piece drive-shaft, and more complicated. You don't want any of the joints at 0 degrees of the will wear out prematurely

Strodder 10-03-2009 05:21 PM

Re: Daverods project 66
 
Adjust the angle to the center joint. It should be in faze that way. Also I looked at my truck and there's lots of room to put the exhaust pipes from the block huggers along the inside of the frame to where the frame kicks up. Then cross over from there. Remember I have a 73 rear part of the frame, but I looked at the back half of my old frame and it looks like you can do the same thing.

http://belair.smugmug.com/photos/668936973_DDGaP-M.jpg

http://belair.smugmug.com/photos/668937801_V2Vcz-M.jpg

daverod 10-03-2009 07:27 PM

Re: Daverods project 66
 
Lots of room. So I guess you can go under. Now all I need are some bezels for cheap.:lol: I found some mustang ones.:lol: I could'nt.:chevy:

ol Curt 10-03-2009 07:29 PM

Re: Daverods project 66
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Strodder (Post 3550258)
Adjust the angle to the center joint. It should be in faze that way. Also I looked at my truck and there's lots of room to put the exhaust pipes from the block huggers along the inside of the frame to where the frame kicks up. Then cross over from there. Remember I have a 73 rear part of the frame, but I looked at the back half of my old frame and it looks like you can do the same thing.

http://belair.smugmug.com/photos/668936973_DDGaP-M.jpg

http://belair.smugmug.com/photos/668937801_V2Vcz-M.jpg

Can I borrow that lift?:lol:

watahyahknow 10-03-2009 08:24 PM

Re: Daverods project 66
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by daverod (Post 3550372)
Lots of room. So I guess you can go under. Now all I need are some bezels for cheap.:lol: I found some mustang ones.:lol: I could'nt.:chevy:

just thinking :you might be able to find suntin in a boatshop or boatwreckingyard , i can immagine they use those type of exits for water or exaust or sumtin like that

daverod 10-03-2009 08:41 PM

Re: Daverods project 66
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by watahyahknow (Post 3550437)
just thinking :you might be able to find suntin in a boatshop or boatwreckingyard , i can immagine they use those type of exits for water or exaust or sumtin like that

I don't think we have boatwrecking yards in Idaho.:lol: I'll look on ebay though. Boat exhaust bezels. Worth a look. Got to be cheaper then vette ones. The mustang ones are looking better and better.

Strodder 10-04-2009 11:39 AM

Re: Daverods project 66
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by daverod (Post 3550457)
I don't think we have boatwrecking yards in Idaho.:lol: I'll look on ebay though. Boat exhaust bezels. Worth a look. Got to be cheaper then vette ones. The mustang ones are looking better and better.

Try E-Bay

daverod 10-04-2009 12:50 PM

Re: Daverods project 66
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Strodder (Post 3551189)
Try E-Bay

E-Bay? ;) I was hoping you had a couple more laying around.

Strodder 10-04-2009 01:09 PM

Re: Daverods project 66
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by daverod (Post 3551277)
E-Bay? ;) I was hoping you had a couple more laying around.

They aren't from a boat, they're from a 65 Corvette
http://www.corvetteamerica.com/cf/di...xhaust%20bezel

http://www.corvetteamerica.com/image.../lmore2941.jpg

daverod 10-04-2009 01:12 PM

Re: Daverods project 66
 
I've been using my aircompressor to fill my air bags. I was worried about the pressure. Whats the max pressure I should put in them?

Strodder 10-04-2009 01:40 PM

Re: Daverods project 66
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by daverod (Post 3551316)
I've been using my aircompressor to fill my air bags. I was worried about the pressure. Whats the max pressure I should put in them?

Depending what kind of bags they are, but 150 to 180psi should be OK. 250 to 300psi you might pop them, unless they are Slam Specialties bags. Also it will hop the truck like hydraulics do. My son has a 55 Caddy that he hops with bags. It blows peoples minds hopping a heavy car like that. :metal:

daverod 10-04-2009 01:40 PM

Re: Daverods project 66
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Strodder (Post 3551310)

Like I said they sure are proud of them. Must be because there for a "vette". Mustang ones are cheap.;) I like the look of the vette ones though.

Strodder 10-04-2009 01:47 PM

Re: Daverods project 66
 
Again look in E-Bay. Mustang is a thought also. But I like the Corvette ones better too. They're at a better angle.
http://cdn2.ioffer.com/img/item/814/201/16/24_1.JPG

daverod 10-04-2009 01:56 PM

Re: Daverods project 66
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Strodder (Post 3551371)
Again look in E-Bay. Mustang is a thought also. But I like the Corvette ones better too. They're at a better angle.
http://cdn2.ioffer.com/img/item/814/201/16/24_1.JPG

I looked on ebay. I saw there's some at a lower price $43 but lets see what they sell for. I'm thinking $100. Ya the mustang ones look cheap. I'm only putting about 120 in my bags so I'm safe. Worried my though. Just did'nt want to hear a big pop.


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:39 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com