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if you are bagging this truck then yes if you are just doing a static drop 4/6 per say no need to cnotch...

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I agree with big Al, if it's only a 6 inch drop then no notch needed but anything more and notch for sure. I've been at a 5/7 for about 9 months and with the rear bump stops cut down I bottom out a lot so I have the notch in the bed to be installed this mornimg at work. I thank God for my job!! ;)
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6+2" blocks looks really good on BigAl's truck with the Coys. That's closer to what I'm after and the 45's might look better that way. I love the 'tucked' look.

I know this GMC is a pretty rare truck BUT, it's mine and I'm not really building it to re-sell. It didn't come with 4 wheel discs originally either .. I'm not afraid to notch it. Stance is everything on these trucks. We'll see what happens. :D

It sure would be easy with the bed off of it.

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Amen!! I say to slam that baby then :gmc2:

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Notch it now while it's easy. Even with just 6" coils, you will bang it once in a while...
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agree !!!

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...also gives you the opportunity to go bigger on the other truck :D
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Id notch it now as the others have said..... Looks like its gonna be a loooonnnggg week for ya.. Glad they have found the wheel...

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Notch it
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I agree with everybody else, notch it now while you have the bed off. You can always use a little extra clearance.

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Doesn't the upper shock bar require you to run the PB lower shock crossbar also?

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Yeah, I'd have to get the lower too. I just don't have that piece or the relocators just yet.

I talked to dad about it over the weekend. With new wood and hours invested in the polishing / varnish on the wood I seriously doubt I will ever haul anything in the truck. If I do, it won't be much.

What if I just took it down as far as possible without notching? I would cut it BUT, it's just something that can't be reversed. While I'd love to see it looooww.. the more I think about it I think I'd regret it. Big decision .. and you know how I am. :lol:

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You need to get your two personalities reconciled. :smoke:

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Just for that, I'm going to lower the front and Jack the back way up with Buckshot mudders on my new wheels. :D


I KNOW ! I change my mind a lot.

I'm not afraid to cut a frame for a notch, but I'm just not sure I want to cut the frame of a 70 SG / CST. I can tell you my stepper will be notched. It's just an original base truck, 6cyl 3OTT.

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I know exactly how you feel. I'm the same way. Here's something to think about - If SG / CST's were ever going to be worth a lot of money, that time would be now. They made a bajillion of them - 1 less isn't going to stop the world from spinning. And while it's not easily reversed, I don't think it lessens the value any. Years from now when Buckshot Mudders are all the rage, you'll still be able to run them.

And when that time fiannly comes, you'll be in a nursing home trying to steady your drool cup. Cutting that vintage frame will be the last thing on your mind. :D

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CNotching a CST, or Mini Tubs in a 69 Camaro .. The value added to get the look of a hot rod / up to date suspension / brakes, etc would essentially offset it I know. I may take it to 6.5" or so and just see where it's at. If it's not low enough I have access to a rack so I could do a bolt in notch later on. But, no, I'm not afraid to .. It's just a $2,500 truck.. right? :)

Just a big decision.

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Chad I ran a 6 7/8" rear drop for about 8-9 months and the ride sucked the whole time. I just put the notch in on Saturday and let me tell you I am still kicking myself for not doing it earlier. If you want it low you are going to have to notch it, whether it be sooner or later it will have to happen.

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Can you notch it without cutting the frame rails? :lol: Will it bleed when I cut it?

(kidding .. )

It will probably happen sooner than later.

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Chad i really think 6.5 is about the lowest you can go without notching, knock on wood ive never had any issues

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You can't even tell my frame was cut :crazy::lol:
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Just save the cutout...if someone wants to they could weld it back in later....it's only metal ;)

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That PB notch is crazy strong too. Does anyone know where I could find a picture of the lower shock bar and how the brackets mount? How does that all fit? Does it mount on top of the trailing arm and one side (having two mounting points) One for the lower shock cross bar and the other for the track bar? Am I seeing this correctly?

It would be PB if I notch it. (since I have the other stuff already) I'd just get another set for the stepper when I could.

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my brother in laws 69 camaro minitubbed....no regrets!!!

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I'll take it!!! :lol:

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Camero turned out very nice

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You might as well notch it and take away any doubts about the rear bottoming out. Then you can pick up that that load of pressure-treated lumber for your new deck that the wifey wants us to build. :lol:

POP

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I agree.

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:barf:

Pop, I can see a Home Depot trip after you block that tailgate, and we could always just let the ends of the wood rest agaist the front panel and wheel wells.
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Mine is a 6" drop in the rear and I have a notch to install but haven't yet. However I can tell you... It needs it! I can jump up and down in the bed and it bottoms out.

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Just found out my other wheel is back in the sort facility in Chicago.. lets hope it gets routed correctly this time.

Fingers crossed..
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What a shame to have those awesome wheels with a massive air gap over it.

:lol:

Just messin witchaman
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Hey Chad, I passed on the two steelies. I just feel I will regret not doing a five lug swap from the get go. I'm also contemplating whether or not to do a notch when I drop the truck. I only plan on a 4-6 drop but seems like quite a few people recommend a notch even with a 4-6.

Good luck on the wheel. Hope it arrives soon and safe.

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Sounds like my Dad is on board now .. I'm shocked I must say but I really feel like I'd be happier with the outcome if it was notched. I can get it lower with the 45's that way.

Next question .. Would 4.5/F and about 7.5/R look goofy? Remember my rear tires will be pretty tall so the truck would sit pretty much level after all is said and done. I'm not sure I want to go any lower than 4.5 up front. I'm thinking notch it, 6" Hotchkis spring and block it to the point I want it to be? 7 or 7.5 maybe? I like a slight rubber rake, ultimately I just don't want the back lower than I can get the front.

255/45/20 and 295/45/20 = 29.03" tall in the front and 30.45" tall in the back.

Chris, when you get ready man I'm serious .. I'll help you swap it over to 5 lug. It's not that big of a deal. Get you some wheels you really want and a 4/6 drop (or more..) and we'll get it done.

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So, .. Notch it ? :D

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Pop -- Here's some PB info and pics on the rear notch kit.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=405754

Pretty much what you see here without the bags. We have the notch and upper shock bar in that box over by the back wall. We just need the brackets for the lower shock mount bar, the lower shock bar itself, and Nate's track bar. I really like this setup and getting it ready / without the bed on would be the prime time to do it. It would just be a static version of his Stage II kit with Bilstiens.

http://www.porterbuiltfabrication.co...-Basic-Kit-799

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Started on my notches Sunday......

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Chad, notch it man as you will not regret it. It will ride alot better. As for your tire sizes those work well as thats what I had in those pictures that I sent you. Its much easier now with the box off. I put one in on my '66 with the box on and what a royal pain in the butt as you are so limited for room.
Hope you have other wheel in a day or two as that will be a big relief for you. Looking good!!

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Yep, that looks pretty straight forward. Probably the hardest part would be drilling out the rivets from the bump stop brackets. What is the best tool to cut the frame? Cut off wheel, SawZall...

What do you do with the exhaust that goes over the axle? Also, can you get so low that the tires rub in the top of the inner wheel tubs?

POP

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Actually for me the rivets for the bump stops were the easiest. Just cut an x with your die grinder on the rivet heads on the inside of the frame then knock the heads off that are on the inside of the frame. After that you just pry a little between the frame and the bump stop brackets on the outside of the frame and they will pop right off. As for cutting I used a cutoff wheel on my handheld grinder. Makes quick work of the cutting.
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Does that PB notch index it's self on the frame rails? So you really just drop it on the frame and it is in the position where it needs to be (?)

From what they're saying Pop, even at 6" drop it would bottom out on occasion. I think the springs + maybe 1.5" blocks and we go ahead with the PB setup. there are a LOT of nice trucks on here, nicer than the GMC will ever be that have notches and are selling for big money. I don't think a notch done correctly would de-value the truck. Big-Al's truck is notched and it looks incredible (just for example) Eric's Cheyenne Super, etc. I wouldn't be going this low .. BUT, just as an example. :D