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Baddflash 06-10-2015 01:47 PM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
I hate to suggest this as you are so far along, but, what about moving the drivetrain closer to the firewall to gain the clearance you need for the steering rack. Last resort kind of thing but if you're stuck it might be a way out.

RockinKees 06-10-2015 05:09 PM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Good point Baddflash, but that's no option for me.
If I find the right headers, maybe modify them, then it's all good.

Remember, I'm just at the point of buying my fourth set ;)

RockinKees 06-11-2015 04:41 PM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Sold the headers again.
Now wait for new ones to arrive ;)

Bolt on the brakebooster, MC and brakepedal yesterday, finally going to built something :metal:
Plumbed the brakes and booster today:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-o...o/P1260457.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-H...o/P1260459.JPG
Brakepedal is in, it's all black, so a bit difficult to see...

After the brakes I testfitted the steeringpump. I've got a bracket with the pump from the same '76 Chevy Van as is the steeringcolumn.
Its a bolt in!

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-N...o/P1260460.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-v...o/P1260461.JPG
Just have to make a bolt and bushing to bolt it the header later on.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-0...o/P1260462.JPG

Now that it fits so nice I have to make the steering hoses, to mate the GM pump to the Jag rack. I asked around and that shouldn't be a problem if I know the thread sizes of the connectors.
So looking for that.

One off the list.....

Advanced Design 06-11-2015 05:22 PM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Good progress Keys. I have to ask about the copper colored brake line...of course that isn't copper is it?

Kim57 06-11-2015 06:10 PM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Looking good.
Kim

RockinKees 06-12-2015 07:31 AM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Thanks Kim and Doug!!

Doug, what is the problem with copper brakelines?
I've used them for 30 years and never had a single problem with them.
Just not overtighten them!
There legal too, overhere ;)

jkeating1 06-12-2015 08:54 AM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RockinKees (Post 7207010)
....I've used them for 30 years and never had a single problem with them.
Just not overtighten them!
There legal too, overhere ;)

and--use a lot of rubber isolated clamps and don't let them touch any steel parts (vibration abrasion)

Advanced Design 06-12-2015 11:32 AM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RockinKees (Post 7207010)
Thanks Kim and Doug!!

Doug, what is the problem with copper brakelines?
I've used them for 30 years and never had a single problem with them.
Just not overtighten them!
There legal too, overhere ;)

Thanks Kees, I learn something every day.

RockinKees 06-14-2015 05:13 AM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Sure I use a lot rubber isolated clamps ;)
I know what can go wrong when the line breaks....

OneOffStroker 06-14-2015 09:00 AM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
I will lend you a hand since I've already worked through a few problems with the Jag IFS in my '57.
For headers, I ordered the Flowtech 11108FLT from Summit. The drivers side has the right bends to get away from the steering box, but I will have to run 3 steering joints and a support bearing, but if it works then I'm good with that.
The Jag steering ports are 1/2"-20 inverted flare and a 5/8"-18 inverted flare. I bought flare to AN adapters so that I can simplify my lines with AN fittings. Those adapters are also from Summit, part numbers RUS-640330 and RUS-640380.

I hope this helps. Keep p the good work!

RockinKees 06-14-2015 12:02 PM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OneOffStroker (Post 7209132)
I will lend you a hand since I've already worked through a few problems with the Jag IFS in my '57.
For headers, I ordered the Flowtech 11108FLT from Summit. The drivers side has the right bends to get away from the steering box, but I will have to run 3 steering joints and a support bearing, but if it works then I'm good with that.
The Jag steering ports are 1/2"-20 inverted flare and a 5/8"-18 inverted flare. I bought flare to AN adapters so that I can simplify my lines with AN fittings. Those adapters are also from Summit, part numbers RUS-640330 and RUS-640380.

I hope this helps. Keep p the good work!

Yep, that sure helps a lot!!!
And right on time :lol:

I will have the lines made for me this week.
For headers, probably I go with the Ramhorns I have, I will testfit them and see of those will work.
If not, I will look into your Summit numbers.

Thanks a lot OneOffstroker!!!

RockinKees 06-15-2015 11:39 AM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Will a set of '88-'95 headers fit my '71 SBC?
I mean, is flange at the head the same where you bolt the headers on the heads?

I ask this because the Ramhorns doesn't fit either...
The rack and pinion is playing with me ;)

jkeating1 06-15-2015 12:10 PM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
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just eyeballing it, this gm truck header from summit looks like it dumps far enough back to be behind the engine mounts and steering.
SUM-G9014
$179.97

RockinKees 06-15-2015 12:21 PM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Thanks John!

I found some headers too, I just want to know if I can use headers made for SBC from '88-'95.
Does those fit the boltflange at my '71 heads?

RockinKees 06-15-2015 12:27 PM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-G...o/P1260463.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-y...o/P1260470.JPG

Here can you see the problem.
They clear the rack and pinion, but the height is too short to make a decent downpipe. Now the u-joint get in the way...

They sure look cool thou!

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-w...o/P1260464.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-N...o/P1260469.JPG

Advanced Design 06-15-2015 01:36 PM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
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Quote:

Originally Posted by RockinKees (Post 7210492)
Thanks John!

I found some headers too, I just want to know if I can use headers made for SBC from '88-'95.
Does those fit the boltflange at my '71 heads?

Kees, I am not sure and hopefully someone else will chime in. I vaguely recalled something about exhaust manifold bolt placement and came across this picture showing a change in 1983. Best bet is to Google the headers you are looking at to determine if they will fit the bolt positions for sure.

RockinKees 06-15-2015 05:17 PM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Well,
I thought, I give Sanderson a quick email....
Instant replay:
Quote:

Date: 2015-06-15 12:51:41
Name: Sam
Message:

Hello Kees:

Yes, headers for 1988-1995 engines fit your early heads.

The concern is the flange, not the bolt pattern. Some newer performance cylinder head designs feature D-port or different plug angles. If the headers fit stock type late model heads they will also fit your '71 heads.

Best Regards,

Sanderson Tech Support
http://www.sandersonheaders.com
So, that's my answer right there ;)
If the're made for stck type heads, it should fit with no problem.

Super service overthere by Sanderson!

Now I can go on looking for some new ones, pair number five :metal:

tpimuncie 06-17-2015 10:56 AM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Nice progress!

Nev68 06-18-2015 05:10 AM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RockinKees (Post 7210502)
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-y...o/P1260470.JPG

Here can you see the problem.
They clear the rack and pinion, but the height is too short to make a decent downpipe. Now the u-joint get in the way...

They sure look cool thou!

I have the same problem even though my steering rack spline is on the other side.
I have tried stock cast manifolds, block huggers, tight block huggers, long primary headers.
None of them give enough steering column / shaft clearance.
I have come to the conclusion that a fabricated header, at least on the driver side (RH side for me ;) ) is the only way to solve this one

bogape 06-18-2015 06:08 AM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Good work Kees, you're getting on well...
I'm still a long way off this point with mine, but have you thought about altering the rack mounts, or making some spacers, to rotate it or/and move it back a bit?
might help, might not!

bogape 06-18-2015 06:12 AM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
maybe even...
rotate
+back
+down
+to the left (if you have enough lock spare)

RockinKees 06-18-2015 11:56 AM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Quote:

tpimuncie

Nice progress!
Thank you Sir!!

Nev68,
I thought you would have the same problem ;)
Bought some new headers, that I think clear the steering rack, but have to modify the shaft.
We'll see in a few weeks how that ends....

Bogape,
Never thought of that.
Great tip!!
I will look into that.
Rotate and a bit to the left.....maybe.....:rolleyes:

RockinKees 06-24-2015 03:51 PM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Not much done last week.
Only repaired the hinges.
I took out the old pins with nylon bushes (don't think they are stock, don't they??) and pushed in some new bronce bushes and new pins.
Hinges work like new now :metal:

Old and new....
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-g...o/P1260475.JPG

Now that's done, while waiting for headers to arrive, I want to know if someone can point me in the right direction of mounting points for three-point safety belts.
I have a small window cab, someone allready made shoulder mounts and post some pictures of that??
Thanks!!

RockinKees 06-26-2015 05:05 AM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
Finally finished the trans cover.
Ground off the upper part off of the old beat up cover and welded it to a new steel plate.
No holes anymore :metal:
Looks a lot better now!

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-y...o/P1260476.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-h...o/P1260478.JPG

Advanced Design 06-26-2015 08:04 AM

Re: Dutch '59 Fleetside Longbed
 
The trans cover looks really good. Nice work!


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