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Advanced Design 09-08-2016 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by lower50's (Post 7707091)
How did it test ok then not work when it was installed?

I was thinking about the same. Different rpm at test compared to use?

oldman3 09-08-2016 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by lower50's (Post 7707091)
How did it test ok then not work when it was installed?

Maybe I said this wrong, the alternator works, and shows 14-1/2 volts but only above 1500 rpm, it should show 14-1/2 volts when at idle. I've taken the alternator back to George, he has a new stator with a smaller ID for the rotor, so it should charge about 70 amps, 14-1/2 volts at 600 rpm. It should be ready tomorrow afternoon, I will install and report back the results...Jim

oldman3 09-08-2016 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Advanced Design (Post 7707736)
I was thinking about the same. Different rpm at test compared to use?

You are correct Doug, I'm not sure of the rpm but is higher that 600 rpm. I'll see if I can get George to tell me more about the testing...Jim

RockinKees 09-09-2016 11:04 AM

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Did some catching up ;)

Very nice gauges!!
New alternator is a good upgrade!
Hope it works out the way it should!

oldman3 09-09-2016 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RockinKees (Post 7708104)
Did some catching up ;)

Very nice gauges!!
New alternator is a good upgrade!
Hope it works out the way it should!

Thanks Kees, wasn't ready today, part had not come in, hopefully Monday...Jim

oldman3 09-20-2016 08:01 PM

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Well, we all know about "life gets in the way", and problems it can cause. Some may be thinking "it only takes 20 mins to install and alternator, what's the problem". Well my mother passed on Monday 9/12 and I had other things to take care of, my mom was 89 yrs old (3 months from 90) was in good health up until a few days before she passed. I praise God for his special gift of my mom to me. I miss her each day, but life goes on.

So now back to my alternator. I finally got the alternator and installed it today.
I also talked to George about testing. The new stator was smaller on ID to the stator and he also said I had a bad diode. There was no charge for getting it right. He showed me it was putting out 14-1/2 volts at 800 RPM, and around 75 amps.

1st pic show 650 RPM, in drive, ac off - 14-1/2 volts
2nd pic shos 650 RPM, in drive, ac ON - 13-1/2 volts
3rd pic shows 850 RPM, in drive, ac ON - 14-1/2 volts ( I just gave it a little gas to raise the RPM's)
4th pic show a close up 700 RPM, in drive, ac ON - 13-1/2 volts

If this were a new car, it would raise the RPM's when the ac was on, so I'm happy with how everything turned out.

This is alot better than the first change to 105 amp.

One of the main reasons for wanting higher volts, is within the next month I want to install FITech fuel injection. I wanted to make sure I always had a minium of 12 volts to the system. LEEVON has beat me to the punch and is installing one on his AD with the LS engine. I will still do a installation/pic update as I do mine. Catch you later...Jim

Indian113 09-20-2016 08:28 PM

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Jim, Sorry to hear about your Mom. I lost mine far to young.

Good Job on the Electrical Problem. Now Lets hope the Injection System is easier

Advanced Design 09-20-2016 10:29 PM

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Jim, we are really sorry to learn of your mothers passing.

The alternator looks like a good fix. You are fortunate to have someone who can still work on them. It's been years since I've rebuilt one.

Fitech install will be interesting and looking forward to that.

solidaxel 09-20-2016 10:32 PM

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Condolences Jim,

May She Rest in Paradise

oldman3 09-20-2016 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian113 (Post 7719395)
Jim, Sorry to hear about your Mom. I lost mine far to young.

Good Job on the Electrical Problem. Now Lets hope the Injection System is easier

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Originally Posted by Advanced Design (Post 7719562)
Jim, we are really sorry to learn of your mothers passing.

The alternator looks like a good fix. You are fortunate to have someone who can still work on them. It's been years since I've rebuilt one.

Fitech install will be interesting and looking forward to that.

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Originally Posted by solidaxel (Post 7719569)
Condolences Jim,

May She Rest in Paradise

Thank you all for the well wishes. Really looking forward to the FITech install...Jim

RockinKees 09-21-2016 03:54 PM

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Sorry to hear about your mother, Jim, condolences.

I don't know Fitech Injection, so I'll keep an eye on it!

lower50's 09-21-2016 03:58 PM

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Really sorry to hear about your Mom. I think it is a blessing to be in good health right till the end at that age.
Glad you got the alt fixed up.

ChuckDriver 09-21-2016 05:24 PM

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Very sorry for your loss.

youngrodder 09-21-2016 10:14 PM

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Sorry for your loss...Hang in there

Marc

oldman3 09-21-2016 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RockinKees (Post 7720244)
Sorry to hear about your mother, Jim, condolences.

I don't know Fitech Injection, so I'll keep an eye on it!

Thank you kees, Fitech has been out for at least a yr, the whole system is just over $1,000.00.

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Originally Posted by lower50's (Post 7720251)
Really sorry to hear about your Mom. I think it is a blessing to be in good health right till the end at that age.
Glad you got the alt fixed up.

Thank you lower, I agree on the age, I'm 70 now and hope I can stay as good as Mom, until my time.

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Originally Posted by ChuckDriver (Post 7720319)
Very sorry for your loss.

Thanks JJ

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Originally Posted by youngrodder (Post 7720584)
Sorry for your loss...Hang in there

Marc

Thanks Marc, getting better each day, it's just part of life.

Jim

Nut Case 09-22-2016 01:57 AM

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Jim

Mothers are special, sorry yours is gone!

I'm down for the injection system.

Keep on keepin on

Nut Case

Kim57 09-22-2016 07:35 AM

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Sorry for your loss.
Kim

oldman3 09-22-2016 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Nut Case (Post 7720768)
Jim

Mothers are special, sorry yours is gone!

I'm down for the injection system.

Keep on keepin on

Nut Case

Thank you, should be soon on the injection...Jim

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Originally Posted by Kim57 (Post 7720821)
Sorry for your loss.
Kim

Kim, thank you...Jim

Advanced Design 09-26-2016 06:46 PM

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Jim, will you be running the fuel command center on your install?

oldman3 09-26-2016 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Advanced Design (Post 7725101)
Jim, will you be running the fuel command center on your install?

Hey Doug, No I will not be running the command center. The only negative point from all the reviews I read was always the command center. I'm doing the same as Leevon and running the pump on the frame to the unit and return to tank.

I checked Speedway, Summit, Jegs, etc. The fuel system hook up is on back order, Jegs says 10/3 will ship. I talked to tech at FITech and he said it would be longer than that, possibly 4 weeks. I will order the unit tomorror, they will ship that day, and go on the list for the fuel system. I'm checking the net for other kits, if I can find good stuff for about the same price I will buy that...Jim

joedoh 09-27-2016 12:34 AM

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EFI is something you will never regret, in my admittedly dim opinion. its like going from a bugle to a symphony.

oldman3 09-27-2016 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by joedoh (Post 7725471)
EFI is something you will never regret, in my admittedly dim opinion. its like going from a bugle to a symphony.

joedoh, I agree 100%, Mark and I have put LS engines in a few cars and it is unbeliveable how nice they are. I have been wanting to do mine for a couple years. I ordered mine today, Fitech, unit will ship tomorrow and pump lines, etc to ship on Oct 3, can't wait to get it installed....Jim

oldman3 10-02-2016 11:32 PM

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Hey troops, you can't believe how busy I've been the last couple weeks, and this week is starting to look busy. Anyhow I received by Fitech unit on Thursday 9/29 and the unit looks great. I also cancelled by order for the fuel pump system with Fitech, would be a least 3 weeks before shipping. I ordered the LS1/LT1 system from Speedway and a couple fittings, should be here Tuesday October 4. Mark and I will pick up the rest locally, which he has done for the LS swaps.

Talk to Leevon today, very helpful with how he set his up, and I'm following suit. It still may be awhile before I can work on mine. Mark got in another job today, 78 Firebird, needs complete floor pans installed. So three cars in the shop, so I will wait my turn.

Pic of unit in the box.

Will post as I start changing my stuff...Jim

Zoomin 10-02-2016 11:57 PM

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I'm putting FiTech in another car of mine, I'm doing the pump in the gas tank now as well. Looking forward to firing it up.

oldman3 10-03-2016 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Zoomin (Post 7731370)
I'm putting FiTech in another car of mine, I'm doing the pump in the gas tank now as well. Looking forward to firing it up.

Sounds great, let us know how it works out...Jim

lower50's 10-03-2016 11:09 PM

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I love getting new parts

oldman3 10-03-2016 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by lower50's (Post 7732528)
I love getting new parts

So do I, but my wallet doesn't...Jim

Indian113 10-04-2016 12:09 PM

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Jim, I have the Speedway setup in my S10. I haven't had any problems in 29,000 miles! It is Noisy though, but at least you know it's pumping

oldman3 10-04-2016 10:53 PM

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Hey Ray, are you running the pump and fuel filter/regulator in your system, or just the pump. Also how's things going, don't see you posting much?...Jim

Indian113 10-05-2016 08:08 AM

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I am using the whole setup. But the pump is loud you can hear it real easy. I have been busy mowing all summer. Right now I'm in Florida waiting out Matthew at a Campground in Jacksonville. Came down to visit my Daughter and Grandkids. It's been a downer with all the rain.

oldman3 10-05-2016 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian113 (Post 7733681)
I am using the whole setup. But the pump is loud you can hear it real easy. I have been busy mowing all summer. Right now I'm in Florida waiting out Matthew at a Campground in Jacksonville. Came down to visit my Daughter and Grandkids. It's been a downer with all the rain.

Ray, bummer on the rain, but your still with family. Mark as been installing, what I call a sock on the pump, and it works great. Got in from Speedway, see if I can get this link to work. I'm doing something wrong on the link, but part is #960939, cost $14.99. Might want to check it out...Jim

oldman3 10-12-2016 08:45 AM

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Hey guys and gals, finally started work on my install of the FiTech unit. Worked a few hours on Sunday. Some more on Monday and Tuesday. Will finish up today and hope to report back on how it runs. We are going to have rain today for most of the day, will see.

1st and 2nd pics are of my old fuel system, it was hard line from front to back.

oldman3 10-12-2016 08:56 AM

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Mark just got here, we are going to shop to finish up some small work, start up unit, adjust, and drive. Will post the rest of the install later...Jim

oldman3 10-12-2016 06:48 PM

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1st pic is filter and fuel pump attached near tank.

2nd pic is line from pump to the old fuel line.

ChuckDriver 10-12-2016 06:51 PM

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Cool, can't wait for your update!

oldman3 10-12-2016 07:05 PM

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I should mention not to pay attention to the dates on the pics. I took alot on 10/9, took 0 on 10/10 and more on 10/11, but this was the order things got done.

Pic 1 Mark had removed part of the exhaust to weld in their bung plate.

Pic 2 This is where my exhaust connects to other side. (crossover H style)

Pic 3 It's hard to see but the 02 sensor is installed in the exhaust pic, and you can see were the old fuel hard line was tied to the old mech. fuel pump.

Pic 4 Here's a better pic of the 02 sensor.

oldman3 10-12-2016 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ChuckDriver (Post 7740536)
Cool, can't wait for your update!

Here it is...Jim

oldman3 10-12-2016 07:13 PM

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Here is the new cooper/nickel hard line for return from unit. The orange wire is power to plus side of pump. I will come back later, open up the wire loom and put wire inside. Just want to get it running now.

oldman3 10-12-2016 07:29 PM

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1st pic shows the unit on drivers side, all the linkage hooked up very easy, just like it came off the carb. The incoming fuel line can be seen at the rear.

2nd pic is the center of the unit, looks nice.

3rd pic shows the return line on passenger side going back to tank. You can also see a lot of wiring along the manifold. In my case this could have been a lot shorter, but they have to make it to fit tons of cars and trucks.

oldman3 10-12-2016 07:30 PM

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Hey everyone, I have a 7:00 p.m. meeting to attend, will continue when I return...Jim


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