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shawno72 04-01-2013 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ol Blue K20 (Post 5984940)
Don't know but it does sound like fun

Check out the California section. Its a good way to meet many local forum memebers.

Ol Blue K20 04-01-2013 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by shawno72 (Post 5984987)
The new master is for manual not power brakes. Not sure but I don't think any Corvettes in 1975 came with drum brakes......I hope :uhmk:

Sorry Shawn, the corvette thing got past me:confused: but as long as the booster is working it sounds like line pressure problem. The corvette was usually 4 piston calipers on all four corners. Do ya know someone you can borrow a stock truck master w/ discs/drum combo to try out. I'm just wondering if the vette had different pressure requirements:uhmk:

shawno72 04-01-2013 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ol Blue K20 (Post 5985024)
Sorry Shawn, the corvette thing got past me:confused: but as long as the booster is working it sounds like line pressure problem. The corvette was usually 4 piston calipers on all four corners. Do ya know someone you can borrow a stock truck master w/ discs/drum combo to try out. I'm just wondering if the vette had different pressure requirements:uhmk:

I was thinking that the Corvette master would be overkill if anything. Should squeeze those calipers with no problem. I'm thinking that maybe the booster is the issue. I noticed on the O'Reilly website that the corvette booster is a dual diaphragm.

Ol Blue K20 04-01-2013 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by shawno72 (Post 5985029)
I was thinking that the Corvette master would be overkill if anything. Should squeeze those calipers with no problem. I'm thinking that maybe the booster is the issue. I noticed on the O'Reilly website that the corvette booster is a dual diaphragm.

good thought, did you change the booster as well. I see the new prop valve

shawno72 04-01-2013 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Ol Blue K20 (Post 5985037)
good thought, did you change the booster as well. I see the new prop valve

No. I am using the same booster.

Ol Blue K20 04-01-2013 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by shawno72 (Post 5985086)
No. I am using the same booster.

I would think the stock booster would work with the vette master but now I'm not sure. I'm sure the booster is still working or you would hear the vacuum under the dash when brakes are applied or run funny. Only I can think of is the master isn't making the pressure you need. You're getting good pressure when bleeding correct?

jlsanborn 04-01-2013 04:23 PM

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Truck is looking sharp man, nice work! So them spindles are a 2-1/2" drop, plus a 3" spring??? What size rubber on there?

Ol Blue K20 04-01-2013 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by shawno72 (Post 5984993)
Check out the California section. Its a good way to meet many local forum memebers.

Yeah Shawn, I've been peeking in there now and then (quietly):D

shawno72 04-01-2013 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ol Blue K20 (Post 5985111)
I would think the stock booster would work with the vette master but now I'm not sure. I'm sure the booster is still working or you would hear the vacuum under the dash when brakes are applied or run funny. Only I can think of is the master isn't making the pressure you need. You're getting good pressure when bleeding correct?

Actually the pressure is ok but not super great. Not bad enough to cause concern.

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Originally Posted by jlsanborn (Post 5985171)
Truck is looking sharp man, nice work! So them spindles are a 2-1/2" drop, plus a 3" spring??? What size rubber on there?

Thank you!! Yes 2.5" spindles and 3" springs. Tires are P215/70R15 up front and P235/75R15 out back.

Ol Blue K20 04-01-2013 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by shawno72 (Post 5985323)
Actually the pressure is ok but not super great. Not bad enough to cause concern.



Thank you!! Yes 2.5" spindles and 3" springs. Tires are P215/70R15 up front and P235/75R15 out back.

Well Shawn, I'm at a loss, the only thing I can think of is the master. Trucks run one large piston and vettes four small pistons. I would try a truck power master and see how that changes things.

shawno72 04-01-2013 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Ol Blue K20 (Post 5985388)
Well Shawn, I'm at a loss, the only thing I can think of is the master. Trucks run one large piston and vettes four small pistons. I would try a truck power master and see how that changes things.

The booster is working good so either I need a different master or a bigger booster........I think :(
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jlsanborn 04-01-2013 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by shawno72 (Post 5985323)
Actually the pressure is ok but not super great. Not bad enough to cause concern.



Thank you!! Yes 2.5" spindles and 3" springs. Tires are P215/70R15 up front and P235/75R15 out back.

Thanks! If you get a chance, snap a picture of the ground clearance at the a-arms. I'm banking on a 4-1/2" advertised drop (2-1/2 + 2) and 235/60's working for me.

shawno72 04-01-2013 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jlsanborn (Post 5986183)
Thanks! If you get a chance, snap a picture of the ground clearance at the a-arms. I'm banking on a 4-1/2" advertised drop (2-1/2 + 2) and 235/60's working for me.

Your welcome. I'll snap a couple pics tomorrow.
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shawno72 04-02-2013 12:19 PM

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Thanks! If you get a chance, snap a picture of the ground clearance at the a-arms. I'm banking on a 4-1/2" advertised drop (2-1/2 + 2) and 235/60's working for me.

Well it's not a very good pic but I hope it helps. I would say the LCA's are about 2.5" off the ground.

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shawno72 04-02-2013 01:12 PM

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Look what I got today. Do you know what this means?

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fastcam1 04-02-2013 02:20 PM

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Install tonight!
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shawno72 04-02-2013 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by fastcam1 (Post 5987177)
Install tonight!
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Very soon, very soon. ;)

sduckworth13 04-02-2013 06:18 PM

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Hey Shawn, your truck is looking great. Nice job on the suspension, how does it ride now? I did a similar setup and my 1967 GMC longbed truck, rode like it was on rails going around corners.
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shawno72 04-02-2013 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by sduckworth13 (Post 5987572)
Hey Shawn, your truck is looking great. Nice job on the suspension, how does it ride now? I did a similar setup and my 1967 GMC longbed truck, rode like it was on rails going around corners.
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Thanks Scott. The truck rides so much better with the correct lowering springs. Not quite on rails but much stiffer through the turns :metal:

I will probably install the rear air bags this weekend :chevy:

sduckworth13 04-02-2013 06:36 PM

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Lol, I guess any upgrade of suspension I would say was like riding on rails when I did my suspension. I had the death wooble going on, you know when you only was going change one lane and your truck decides it wants to change two and the only way to make it quit wobbling was to drive faster... Lol. Nice work, looks great.
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Daaaanz67 04-02-2013 07:31 PM

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Phew that's low, I know Lodi has good roads what about some of those long trips that you'll be going on and what you might encounter. I'd like to go lower on mine but to worried. Roads in my area are pretty rough. Anyways looking good Shawn.
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shawno72 04-02-2013 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Daaaanz67 (Post 5987711)
Phew that's low, I know Lodi has good roads what about some of those long trips that you'll be going on and what you might encounter. I'd like to go lower on mine but to worried. Roads in my area are pretty rough. Anyways looking good Shawn.
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Thanks Dan, yeah up there where you are I can see some of the roads getting a bit rough. For me its the price I'm willing to pay to look :cool: :lol:

C10_ustacould 04-02-2013 09:40 PM

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And :cool: it does look!

jlsanborn 04-02-2013 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by shawno72 (Post 5986930)
Well it's not a very good pic but I hope it helps. I would say the LCA's are about 2.5" off the ground.

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Yikes! I'd theoretically be 1/2" or so higher but that's probably pretty nominal. It's going to be low and I sure can't say the same about our streets up here. Thanks for photo man!

shawno72 04-02-2013 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BucksSS (Post 5987972)
And :cool: it does look!

Thanks Buck. I'm wondering how it would look with some 20s?

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Originally Posted by jlsanborn (Post 5988108)
Yikes! I'd theoretically be 1/2" or so higher but that's probably pretty nominal. It's going to be low and I sure can't say the same about our streets up here. Thanks for photo man!

I'll take an exact measurement in the morning.


I got a little something done tonight. I'll post a pic in the morning ;)
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Hardesty454 04-02-2013 11:12 PM

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You can come try on my 20's... They're 6 lug!
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shawno72 04-02-2013 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Hardesty454 (Post 5988201)
You can come try on my 20's... They're 6 lug!
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With the disc brake install and new rest axles I'm 5 lug now. Got any 5 luggers?
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Hardesty454 04-02-2013 11:23 PM

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With the disc brake install and new rest axles I'm 5 lug now. Got any 5 luggers?
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Not here, I'm going to be swapping over to 5 lug eventually. Not yet though.
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HotRod C/10 04-03-2013 12:15 AM

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With the disc brake install and new rest axles I'm 5 lug now. Got any 5 luggers?
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I do, and you can get some real Mexican food while your here!:lol:

shawno72 04-03-2013 12:20 AM

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I do, and you can get some real Mexican food while your here!:lol:

Hey I'm in California. The Mexican food is just as authentic here ;)
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HotRod C/10 04-03-2013 12:30 AM

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ehh........I have had some descent stuff in San Diego, LODI is in the US?

shawno72 04-03-2013 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by HotRod C/10 (Post 5988379)
ehh........I have had some descent stuff in San Diego, LODI is in the US?

Yes Lodi is filled with good Mexican food places, some you have to be able to order in spanish. :ito:

shawno72 04-03-2013 10:06 AM

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Ok so the shrader set up for the rear bags is gonna be temporary and I didn't want to mount the fill valves anywhere with permanent holes. I thought about zip ties but then I said wait I know where they would be almost undetectable. I'm sure this has been done before but it works for me :chevy:

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Ol Blue K20 04-03-2013 10:30 AM

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Hey Shawn, Better get to DMV your tags about to expire:lol::lol:

shawno72 04-03-2013 10:41 AM

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Hey Shawn, Better get to DMV your tags about to expire:lol::lol:

Haha yeah I got till the 30th :D
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Bennett68C10 04-03-2013 02:26 PM

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Nice Shawn, I like how you mounted the schrader valves.
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knomadd 04-03-2013 06:18 PM

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Hey Shawno, did you ever figure out what's up with your brakes? I had a similar issue when I swapped my drum brakes in my GTO over to discs. I installed an SSBC front disc conversion kit and it wouldn't stop as well as my stock drums.

I wound up calling SSBC to get some tech support and they sent me a new booster thinking it was bad. When that didn't work, they thought my MC bore was too big/small. (Sorry, I can't remember which one since it was over 8 years ago. I don't want to guess and make your situation worse, so I'll leave that to someone else, but see if you can get some info from brake people on what a different bore size will do.) Even put in an electric vacuum pump because they thought I didn't have enough vacuum to run the power booster (sent that $#!+ back to them 'cause it didn't do anything but shake the car and made a lot of noise).

Eventually I went with a Hydratech hydro booster. I loved it so much, I ordered one for the C/10 too. :metal: Haven't installed it on the C/10 yet but I still think my factory discs don't stop as well as the drums on the Goat did. It might be that I only have about 10" of vacuum (5 at idle) and "you need 20+ for discs to work properly" according to SSBC.

Good luck!

shawno72 04-03-2013 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by knomadd (Post 5989519)
Hey Shawno, did you ever figure out what's up with your brakes? I had a similar issue when I swapped my drum brakes in my GTO over to discs. I installed an SSBC front disc conversion kit and it wouldn't stop as well as my stock drums.

I wound up calling SSBC to get some tech support and they sent me a new booster thinking it was bad. When that didn't work, they thought my MC bore was too big/small. (Sorry, I can't remember which one since it was over 8 years ago. I don't want to guess and make your situation worse, so I'll leave that to someone else, but see if you can get some info from brake people on what a different bore size will do.) Even put in an electric vacuum pump because they thought I didn't have enough vacuum to run the power booster (sent that $#!+ back to them 'cause it didn't do anything but shake the car and made a lot of noise).

Eventually I went with a Hydratech hydro booster. I loved it so much, I ordered one for the C/10 too. :metal: Haven't installed it on the C/10 yet but I still think my factory discs don't stop as well as the drums on the Goat did. It might be that I only have about 10" of vacuum (5 at idle) and "you need 20+ for discs to work properly" according to SSBC.

Good luck!

Thanks for asking Duane, I just came in from changing the master to the 1 1/8" bore and the brake pedal is worse. I am going to just ride it for a bit cause it feels like the brake pads aren't stopping the truck. When I mash the pedal down as hard as I can the truck stops but just felt so much better with the stock drums. I kinda at the point where I don't want to over think it so I'm just gonna roll it for a bit and see what happens

shawno72 04-04-2013 09:23 AM

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Ok I bit the bullet and ordered a new aluminum master and new aluminum prop valve. The booster has a lifetime warranty on it through Oreillys so I will warranty it out at the same time I swap these parts in. I'll let you guys know how it turns out.

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fastcam1 04-04-2013 09:34 AM

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Ok so the shrader set up for the rear bags is gonna be temporary and I didn't want to mount the fill valves anywhere with permanent holes. I thought about zip ties but then I said wait I know where they would be almost undetectable. I'm sure this has been done before but it works for me :chevy:

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Nice shrader location! Looks clean keep it up
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