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Stepside Jim 08-24-2014 10:45 PM

Re: 1957 Chevy truck re-rebuild
 
Since the steering column is the focus right now I figure I'd put together a batch of pictures showing the column going from an ignition switch and automatic transmission lever column to a dash switch/floor shifter column.

It seems to be from a 1978 or newer mid-sized GM. I'm guessing the interior was blue.;)

The hacksaw and rotary brr is gonna place a part here. Here goes the column shifter mount.
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...ps914f564b.jpg

Next up is the ignition switch mount. Once I disassembled the upper part of the column I was able to hold this in the vise and cut off the mount for the switch.
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8cf24979.jpg
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...psee805ab7.jpg

Sorry for the bad pics here.... but I used the rotary brr to cut a recess in both the switch opening and the shifter opening.
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4a36392d.jpg

Then for both areas I cut a thin piece of aluminum that fit the recessed areas.
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...ps56e98075.jpg

Then using JB weld I glued the aluminum plates in place, then once the plates were dried I scuffed the whole area and used more JB weld to fill and smooth the areas.
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5a72b5af.jpg

Once the ares were filled an leveled, then the appropriate primers were used before paint.

This column had a column dimmer switch but I didn't want it due to the fact that it was seen on the lower part of the column. My lower cover could have covered it but it would have a bulge that I felt would look bulky.
Since the turn signal switch moved up and down and side to side it had a large opening were the lever came out, I had to cover part of the opening.

I glued in a piece of black plastic in a lower piece.
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...ps51e1e9d8.jpg

Now when the column pieces are slid together, the plastic extends upward to cover much of the opening except for where the lever needs to move up and down.
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3cef6558.jpg

I bought Billet Specialties tilt and turn signal handle kit, problem was, it was for the earlier column, not the 1978 and later, I was able to use the outer handles from the kit but had to cut an thread 1/4" stainless rod to get the right length and angle for this column.

There we are, a smooth column adapted for the truck.
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...ps62e287d6.jpg
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...psb76ebc74.jpg

In the end, if this column didn't come with the truck, I would have saved a ton of time getting an aftermarket column.

For anybody with a truck and having the switch and shiifter like I did and would like to adapt it, perhaps this write up will help.

Baldeagle SR 08-25-2014 09:26 AM

Re: 1957 Chevy truck re-rebuild
 
Jim nice work on the steering column. I need to do the same thing on an El Camino column that I am working on now. Rich

_Ogre 08-25-2014 12:42 PM

Re: 1957 Chevy truck re-rebuild
 
do the 57 hoods have any stock bracing in them? my 58 hood has the X brace and a center brace to minimize oil canning. though i may borrow you idea and add some bracing to mine. above 70 mph my whole hood starts to flex and move in the center section. sort of like watching a lava lamp :D

it was quite startling at first. around 100 mph you'd think all the paint would fly off.

http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8a84733d.jpg

here is the best pic i could find of the underside of my hood
i used a medium density foam rubber under the center support in the factory locations

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...llowTrk-69.jpg

Stepside Jim 08-25-2014 06:10 PM

Re: 1957 Chevy truck re-rebuild
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Baldeagle SR (Post 6815717)
Jim nice work on the steering column. I need to do the same thing on an El Camino column that I am working on now. Rich

Rich, I knew I posted the information for someone, hehe.
There is one cool thing about this steering column that I don't think the aftermarkets offer, you can still use the steering wheel locking devise. Instead of using the key switch that inturn rotates a gear assembly that pushes up the pin that locks the steering wheel and at the same time pushes a rod downward that operates the electrical ignition switch lower on the column that we have removed in this case.

By using the rod that comes down to operate the electric ignition switch we can push it up and down to operate the steering wheel lock. I added a bit of rod from the dimmer switch, then put a 90 degree bend to it. Then made a simple plate with two recessed areas to lock the rod into locked position and non lock position.

In the pics I have a piece of vacuum hose on the rod, later I'll change it to a vacuum hose cap. In the free position.
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5649f17b.jpg

Now the locked position.
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...psd805fad3.jpg

There, now at least we have a choice to have it locked or un-locked.

Stepside Jim 08-25-2014 06:20 PM

Re: 1957 Chevy truck re-rebuild
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by _Ogre (Post 6815918)
do the 57 hoods have any stock bracing in them? my 58 hood has the X brace and a center brace to minimize oil canning. though i may borrow you idea and add some bracing to mine. above 70 mph my whole hood starts to flex and move in the center section. sort of like watching a lava lamp :D

it was quite startling at first. around 100 mph you'd think all the paint would fly off.


here is the best pic i could find of the underside of my hood
i used a medium density foam rubber under the center support in the factory locations

After I made mine I noticed a 58 or 59 that had not only the x brace that the 57 has but I noticed you guys also have the support that follows the hood as yours does in the picture.

I'm fairly new to these trucks but have read where others have had the same high speed hood issues you mentioned..... 100 mph, well perhaps they only like 75 or 80. ;)

My issues where simply black sanding and I said to myself, this just ain't gonna happen, I'm not dealing with a flexing hood. So as I usually do, I sought a solution.

Since this picture I found on Amazon a sheet of 1/4" adhesive backed foam rubber. I'd like to follow much of my brace with the foam rubber. I'm thinking I should be in good shape when all is done.

Stepside Jim 09-08-2014 01:09 AM

Re: 1957 Chevy truck re-rebuild
 
Pretty well finished fitting most of the interior back together. I'm getting excited to getting this on the road.

The cup holders still get a coating on the insides of satin black, the upper rings will stay chrome. The stainless trim on the floor tunnel is not pushed in all the way but otherwise it is how it's gonna be.
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...ps876e0c32.jpg

Next on the list is taking care of the brake system. I have to install an adjustable proportioning valve and the line lock. I decided to locate the items under the master cylinder.

With proper plumbing I will have it where the rear brake lights will turn on when the line lock is working also.

I cut one plate, then decided I wanted every thing tucked up tighter under the master cylinder, so I cut the second one on the left that brought everything closer.
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...ps78e98604.jpg

This should get me what I'm looking for.
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...ps517a8b66.jpg

Everything mounted in place.
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...psc21cff2a.jpg

Master cylinder, line lock, proportioning valve, check.;)

Kim57 09-08-2014 09:12 AM

Re: 1957 Chevy truck re-rebuild
 
Interior is looking great.
Nice fab work on the brake lines.
Kim

87Lowrider 09-08-2014 09:29 AM

Re: 1957 Chevy truck re-rebuild
 
Very nice...

Baldeagle SR 09-08-2014 10:31 AM

Re: 1957 Chevy truck re-rebuild
 
Very nice work Jim.
Rich

hydrojunkie 09-10-2014 11:49 PM

Re: 1957 Chevy truck re-rebuild
 
Good lord you have a lot of hours into making some kick arse parts. It's a killer truck bro. Kudos to you.

Dan in Pasadena 09-10-2014 11:58 PM

Re: 1957 Chevy truck re-rebuild
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hydrojunkie (Post 6838444)
Good lord you have a lot of hours into making some kick arse parts. It's a killer truck bro. Kudos to you.

Totally agree. Impressed!

Stepside Jim 09-11-2014 12:34 AM

Re: 1957 Chevy truck re-rebuild
 
Thanks everybody, after a couple of years of bodywork and fabrication it feels great seeing all the pieces start coming together.

FarmerSid 09-11-2014 02:06 PM

Re: 1957 Chevy truck re-rebuild
 
That's what sets apart a nice truck from a very nice truck.

Stepside Jim 09-14-2014 11:45 PM

Re: 1957 Chevy truck re-rebuild
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FarmerSid (Post 6839082)
That's what sets apart a nice truck from a very nice truck.

Thanks FarmerSid.

I finally finished the brake lines front to rear. I didn't fill it with brake fluid and bleed the system yet. Hopefully I will be painting most of the front of the truck in the next couple of weeks. By removing much of the brake system including the booster and master cylinder I have less parts to cover to keep over spray getting on them. I'm just glad to have everything fitted and formed for later.

Where many build their trucks and hide the master cylinder and accessories, I figured I'd whoop it up.

I've shown the booster, cylinder, proportioning valve and line lock, now to finish the metal brake lines. We've all seen where the factory will coil the metal line before it screws into the master cylinder. This procedure allows the metal line to flex as the body and frame flexes while driving down the road.

Using the coil line idea I got a piece of 2 1/4" exhaust pipe and start coiling the line.
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...psdba3b0ea.jpg

With the two fronts I coiled them opposite of each other and the rear I coiled it to head in it's own direction.
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...psebb2957e.jpg

Checking the clearance of the steering column I had to shape the lines slightly so the won't make contact, all in all the extra bends add to the detail of the lines.
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6bb7d596.jpg

Brakes....done. ;)

Baldeagle SR 09-15-2014 09:33 AM

Re: 1957 Chevy truck re-rebuild
 
Nice work. and another step closer. Rich

Kim57 09-15-2014 10:08 AM

Re: 1957 Chevy truck re-rebuild
 
Those coiled brake lines look real nice.
Kim

Stepside Jim 09-28-2014 09:55 PM

Re: 1957 Chevy truck re-rebuild
 
Finally, the time has come for some exterior paint. In a fortunate turn of events I got a week off and the weather has been very cooperative.

I started on Sunday, very focused to get paint on much of the cab and forward. I started with 400 grit on all the panels to sand the feather fill primer. Once done and I approved all the finish on the panels I went to 600 grit for a final sanding.

Then came the taping and masking papering of all the paint work I've already done.
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6a47133f.jpg

The I cleaned and cleaned with pre cleaner to remove left over sanding dust from the surface and all the cracks and crevices, all the time wearing rubber gloves, just the sweat and oil from your fingers can cause issues and fish eyes.

I took me 3 days to sand, mask, and clean. Finally time for sealer (slightly over reduced epoxy primer) one medium to wet coat.
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...pse5f0f574.jpg

I'm doing a two tone, but I need a pin stripe to split the two colors. I love the red pin stripe on the dash, so I spray two coats of red where I want to split the two tone.
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...ps63c5a455.jpg
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I can honestly say, I didn't get much sleep this last week, I knew I was venturing into new territory for myself. I had so many options of how to paint all the pieces. I could jam everything, where I spray all the door jams then assemble and spray as one piece, or, be stubborn and do every piece separately.

I've had this truck together and apart perhaps 15 times now so I chose the hard way, I am gonna do this in pieces. Problem is, I have to have all the pieces together to lay out the pinstripe. So, Thursday morning sealer, Thursday afternoon, red paint, Thursday night, no sleep, Friday morning, assembly of the panels, then lay out the pinstripes.

Nervous, absolutely..... one panel at a time then the hood, should have had my Wheaties this morning. Yes, new socks, great for spacing, great for no scratching.
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...psf0b7fdd3.jpg

Time for a short break, relax, settle the heart rate.... I can't wear the rubber gloves for the pinstripe, the tape adhesive sticks to the gloves. The concern about the bare hands is, I can not use the pre cleaner to wash the panels anymore, the primer and paint is to fresh and will make a mess. With clean hands I start laying tape where I want the red to be when done.
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...psd2d78f2b.jpg
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Ok, whats up with all the extra tape??? The 1/4" is the direct split between the black and silver. The 1/8" is merely decorative, it will have black both on top and bottom of it. I wanted a 1/4" space between the two pinstripes, by putting small pieces of 1/4" tape between them I keep an accurate 1/4" between the two pinstripes. I will remove the small pieces before painting.

Once I got all the striping done I disassembled the truck and it was time for silver paint. The silver is the bottom color so it will be easier to mask it off. Also, if I sprayed the black first, then if I didn't mask it perfectly and some of the sparkle of the silver floated on to the black it would stand out more than if some black drifted onto some silver.

With this next picture I sprayed the silver, then after I sprayed the silver I had lunch. I ran the 1/8" pinstripe up over the headlights, the more I thought about it, I just couldn't leave it that way. Yes, I know, it looks good on the Batmobile. I'm looking for the black to be an authoritative/aggressive color and I feared the over the headlight pinstripe would remove some of the aggressive look I'm looking for. Once the silver dried I cut the tape then sanded the tape line. this is why you will see a red stripe going over the headlight. It will all be black so the red stripe will disappear later.
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...psdf5e293a.jpg

Once the silver dried it was masking time. In this case I taped to the 1/4" pinstripe line.
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...psbed94ee9.jpg
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...ps891c3771.jpg
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6aa4a3a0.jpg
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How cool is this that although I lived through this process this week, this is now a diary that I can relive the whole thing again.

It's getting long winded here. Tomorrow I'll start with the black. ;)

G&R's57GMC 09-28-2014 10:42 PM

Re: 1957 Chevy truck re-rebuild
 
Lookin' Good ! Nice work, I like the red stripe splitting the colors.

BTW the coiled brake lines should be mounted vertically like the factory does, otherwise the potential is there to trap air in the top of the coils and cause a mushy peddle feel.

Stepside Jim 09-28-2014 10:48 PM

Re: 1957 Chevy truck re-rebuild
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by G&R's57GMC (Post 6860155)
Lookin' Good ! Nice work, I like the red stripe splitting the colors.

BTW the coiled brake lines should be mounted vertically like the factory does, otherwise the potential is there to trap air in the top of the coils and cause a mushy peddle feel.

Hmmmmm. very good info on the brake lines, I shall keep that in mind.

Thanks.

Baldeagle SR 09-29-2014 09:27 AM

Re: 1957 Chevy truck re-rebuild
 
Jim that is a lot of work done. Can't wait to see it all painted. Rich

tune_1 09-29-2014 09:40 AM

Re: 1957 Chevy truck re-rebuild
 
Things are looking great. Thanks for taking the time to post all of the information and the pictures. Looking forward to the rest of the paint.

Dwight

Kim57 09-29-2014 11:08 AM

Re: 1957 Chevy truck re-rebuild
 
Looking very nice.
Kim

hotrod1 09-29-2014 12:13 PM

Re: 1957 Chevy truck re-rebuild
 
Is it going to look similar to your wall?

Stepside Jim 09-29-2014 01:57 PM

Re: 1957 Chevy truck re-rebuild
 
Baldeagle SR, yes, I am exhausted. I know it sounds strange but the time it took to put 2 coats of clear on the cab fenders, doors, and hood was nearly 3 hours. The hardest part was keeping a focus in my mind and my eyes. I've only done one paint job since 1998, over time you lose the natural ability to spray paint so it takes more concentration now.

tune_1, I think I remember you checking in before and appreciating the commentary along with the pics, you're welcome.

Thanks Kim, I know you've mentioned perhaps tackling your own paint. I know pictures are worth a thousand words, I figure these may help you in the future.

hotrod1, ahhh, I do seem to have a red stripe addiction going. I got more pics uploaded, let's see how this turns out.

Going to the black color you can see the exposed red pin stripe being covered.
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3cb74259.jpg
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...ps860fdb34.jpg

I did 3 coats of black. I learned a lesson with the glove box door. I had it hanging separately when I painted the dash. I forgot to spray the glove box door on the first coat of black, no biggy, I'll get it with the next two coats. It looked fine, I sand and buffed, it still looked fine. Then I had installed it and rolled the truck out. As I looked closely I could see specks and shimmers of red showing through. Only detectable, in the direct sunlight, so I scuffed the surface, taped off the existing red pinstripe, sprayed 2 coats of black then cleared it again. The Glove box was a small lesson to learn, I might have been tempted to do 2 coats on the truck, I'm glad the glove box told me to do 3 coats of black, I'd hate to have to redo the black on the rest of the truck.

Now that the black has dried for about 4 hours I peeled back the pinstripe tape, nervously hoping that I covered and sealed all the edges well.
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...ps359e1c99.jpg

And the rest of the tape and paper. Remember, the base coat is fast drying color, no gloss.
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...ps88d77ca6.jpg

There are decisions to be made, one decision is where to start and stop the colors and pinstripes. Often times I would stop at the edge of the door with the pinstripe and silver. In the case of the '57 Chevy truck doors the weather stripping is right there, so I brought the silver to where the weather stripping will break the colors.
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...ps10297bdd.jpg

The fender looking good.
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...pse84cae3f.jpg

The hood, base coat with all it's colors.
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5fda3afe.jpg

Finally getting clear coat sprayed.
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...ps0cb28cb6.jpg

I don't have a paint booth with a baking oven but I do have plenty of sunshine. I'm gonna have a ton of wet sanding and buffing, preferably I want the paint to be settled and cured, the hot sun will do the job.
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...psb5a89f41.jpg
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1c5a651f.jpg
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There we are, I took about 100 pictures, I figured these few will tell a story.

I did get a couple of runs, fortunately they are on edges, if they were on large straight areas it would suck, I can sand and remove the ones on edges, if they are on flat areas, try as you may, there is usually a sign of where the run was.

I'll start the sanding and buffing tomorrow, I'm looking to get the same finish as I got on the dash and firewall.

Hopefully this will either help or guide some of you as you venture into your new territory of the world of painting.

rgunlock 09-29-2014 06:04 PM

Re: 1957 Chevy truck re-rebuild
 
Dang that looks AMAZING Jim!!! All the hours and hard work are sure paying off for you. Great job!


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