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The more I looked at our panel with the spot weld carnage, the more I disliked the result, so with new linear guides installed, we made all new today using stainless pop rivets to hold the guides in place. This will leave a few 1/8" holes to fill, but should be much less issue than cleaning up after the spot welds...
We needed just a bit more throat for this set of "lengthened" hood sides, so one bolt was removed from the material clamp and then rotated the clamp inward 90". This lets the panel pass through rather than bottom out in the clamp. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203686.jpg Guides riveted in place.... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203687.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203688.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203689.jpg Here's the new version 1, much cleaner, less distortion, and we can re-use the guides... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203694.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203695.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203696.jpg The cowl piece was done without guides.... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203700.jpg And version 2 with the cowl piece..... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203699.jpg Dave (the car owner) stopped by this afternoon and picked up the samples, and indicated he was being over-ruled by most parties on louvers in the cowl, so likely that version won't be used... |
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....And, in the interest of showing the good with the bad, the lessons learned if you will, Safety tip of the day is to deburr your sheet metal even if it's only for practice pieces....
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OUCH!!!!!!...Jim
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That's a good chunk, keep it clean my brother inlaw just spent a week in the hospital for a infection in hes finger.
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So far so good, nothing oozing.. :metal:
Tonight we worked on the frame, used some poster board to make a pattern for a strengthening plate to span the pocket kit on each frame rail.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203705.jpg While Kyle filled in some frame holes by plug welding to the pocket kit, I cut out the frame plates... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203706.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203708.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203709.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203710.jpg And the shop vacuum is about on it's last leg, it leaves behind about as much as it picks up. For anyone at DYSON or SHARK vacuum that would like to send a test sample, we can sure do a stress analysis on your product.. :lol: |
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More prep and welding on the frame....
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203722.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203723.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203724.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203725.jpg and we cleared out the remaining vacuum inventory from the yard sale pile.. This one is working a bit better! http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203721.jpg We've been going through a dry spell here in the shop, it's been quite some time since we've seen any yellow body panels. Soon to change.... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203726.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203727.jpg |
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My first summer working in a body shop was spent sandblasting school buses from the cowl back. I think we did 5 that summer. That was 1974
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Were they trying to keep ahead of the salt corrosion in stripping/repainting?
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We were stripping and repainting due to old paint peeling in spots. We did one every two weeks. It took as long to tape the windows with cardboard as it did to actually blast them. The paint blew right off. Then sanding ,priming painting plus the two tone. All in Dupont Dulux enamel
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Lovin' the louvers. What is the pocket kit for? Will this one be going bags and a 4-link?
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They make a pocket kit for the tri five Chevy that allows moving the leafs into/suspended under the frame for additional tire clearance for those larger meats and still leaves the room between the rails for fuel tank/exhaust.. Like here:
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Love that spring mod! Great idea.
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Still working on the frame, Kyle was prepping the frame for welding on the strengthening plates while I drilled the plates for plug welds..
Plug welding.... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203733.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203735.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203737.jpg The outer perimeter will be Tig welded... |
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Continued nice work. Reinforcing the frame along the pocket is a good idea. Logical and I haven't noticed it done before.
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Thanks, I just wasn't keen on the pocket kit alone, a little added security blanket, if you will..
Still working the frame, here's the driver's side plate all clamped up and ready to go.. Hindsight and all that, should have made the plates about 2" longer and we wouldn't have those pesky holes in the way at the front end.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203739.jpg So we decided to cut out some 14 gauge and fill in those holes. Cut a piece the same width as the hole, and rounded the end. Then used the band saw to cut a vee on the back side of the "plugs" and continued to clean up the radius with the 3" Roloc sander. Once close, a bit more on the band saw and break off the remaining, then fine tune with the sander.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203741.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203743.jpg Magnet used to hold in place for tacking.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203748.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203742.jpg For TIG welding the perimeter of the plates, we decided to make up a "crutch" that we could rest our hand on for better holding the torch... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203751.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203750.jpg Kyle is getting a pretty good hold on this welding stuff... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203747.jpg He even let me get in some practice.... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203755.jpg |
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Looking great as always...Jim
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No, they are dragging their feet and in the meantime the dirt is piling up :lol:
Kyle got the welds finished up on the frame plates... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203756.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203758.jpg Frame is ready to send to get media blasted... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203757.jpg And the rear was busted apart for some media blasting as well http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203762.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203763.jpg Getting the bus parts prepped for paint, the owner had a used bumper in stock so it will get repainted... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203761.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203760.jpg |
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We've been waiting for an opening at the machine shop's blasting booth, we're going to get the frame done first. They have some large platform in there now for the US Navy, so it looks like another couple weeks.. So in the meantime, Kyle has been prepping some front end components for paint..
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203764.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203765.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203766.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203767.jpg ......and we should have this showing up tomorrow, need to get some metal cut out of the side and new replacement made up... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203726.jpg |
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Here's what we had to contend with on the bus. Some can opener effect going on....
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203769.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203770.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203771.jpg After cutting some of the mangled mess out of the way......... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203773.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203774.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203775.jpg ......we saw that the bottom structural member was not going to cooperate. The horizontal section behind the weld tear at the top used to be vertical... So to save some time, we'll cut this out and make a replacement. This is 16 ga, and is there to keep vehicles out of the passenger compartment. It did it's job, so let's put in a new one to restore the integrity.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203776.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203777.jpg Here the bottom flange is pushed in over an inch.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203778.jpg Here's the replacement we made up.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203780.jpg Comparison.... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203782.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203783.jpg All trimmed, we'll get the replacement panel formed and fitted Tuesday.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203784.jpg Spare parts... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203786.jpg |
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Well our bus side panel is just shy of 8' long and about 24" wide. We did a light pass on the wheeling machine just enough to break the grain, figured it would have less chance of waves that way... We found out real quick that 8' is a bit long, so some 1x2's were pony-clamped under the outside edges to provide a bit of support. We tried to make a pass through the bead roller for the stepped flange at the bottom, with less than stellar results, a bit wavy up and down. Good thing we had the other half of the sheet. More wheeling, and used the offset / step dies in the Lennox Tru-Edge.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203787.jpg Given our challenges with the long panels, we had to call in reinforcements. Regardless of the late hour that Scott's attire suggests, it was only 8 at night! http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203789.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203788.jpg Linear slides really came in handy, nice straight detail this go round.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203791.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203792.jpg Comparing the bend relief above the rear bumper ear... http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203793.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203795.jpg Tomorrow evening well get it fitted to the bus and final trimmed.. |
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Finished the welding of the lower structural member on the bus repair...
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203797.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203798.jpg .....and underneath it is tied to the floor cross members http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203802.jpg Added the frame around the fuel door, this helps prevent the side panel from flopping around as the fuel door is pushed closed.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203803.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203808.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203807.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203806.jpg Thursday evening we'll get all the holes pre-drilled for the skirting and start prepping for paint.. |
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Nice clean fix going on there. The channels came out really well. How did you make them? Almost looks like press brake work and am thinking they are too narrow for that.
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The channels are 16 ga cold rolled, they were bent on the Baileigh magnetic brake.
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Took delivery yesterday of a Blocking Hammer from Peter Tommasini. To give you an idea of the size of this beast, the stump is 24" in diameter..
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...g%20Hammer.jpg This should come in handy in making the 16 ga repair panels for the front fenders on John's Beiderman truck.. http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203642.jpg http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y16...ure%203603.jpg |
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