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1963c-10 04-23-2014 10:04 PM

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it'l be a week or two off before im ready for fire up. gotta set the engine and trans in after frame clean up and crossmember swap. disk conversion and hydraulic clutch set up, new brake lines, then i can look at fire up. but thanks for the break in procedures....pretty much what comp cams says. and i have all the proper break in fluids.

1963c-10 04-23-2014 10:05 PM

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and yeah, i expect some paint casualty.

Sharps40 04-24-2014 05:11 AM

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Man last time we fired one it was big smoke! Bakein the paint in place and an awesome scary sight!

1963c-10 04-24-2014 08:15 AM

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Haha....right on. Last time I broke in a big block it was in the late 90's in my 69 Chevelle SS. I was 18 or 19 and was so damn excited hearing that big block fire up I could have run a marathon.

I've got a check list of stuff that I'll keep on standby for initial start up. Fire extinguisher included.

Paint can always be touched up, so not real worried about that. Your welcome to come down when the times right if you want to. I can keep you updated on it.

Sharps40 04-24-2014 08:23 AM

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Remember, no tire shreding the first 4000 miles!

1963c-10 04-24-2014 08:29 AM

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I hear you there....especially with the cost of the new white walls....

I'll still have the rear end to convert to posi...so tire shredding will have to wait a few weeks. I'll need to take it easy on the ol one legger so I don't shred it.

MP33 04-24-2014 10:09 AM

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Yep that works. Thank you very much.

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Originally Posted by 1963c-10 (Post 6643123)
Hope these help MP33...this is from the 63 accessory install book.

Seatbelt mounting instructions.


TJ's Chevy 04-24-2014 10:20 AM

Re: 1963 C-10 in NC
 
Make sure to put 4000 miles on it quickly so we can get a vid of some tire shredding! :lol: Motor is looking killer! Can't wait to hear it run(I hope!)! :chevy:

1963c-10 04-24-2014 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by MP33 (Post 6643897)
Yep that works. Thank you very much.

No problem. You know we'll want some pics of the install!!

1963c-10 04-24-2014 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by T.J. MCCAULEY (Post 6643920)
Make sure to put 4000 miles on it quickly so we can get a vid of some tire shredding! :lol: Motor is looking killer! Can't wait to hear it run(I hope!)! :chevy:

Thanks TJ. I'll probably use some old tires for the whole tire shredding episode!!

bj383ss 04-24-2014 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by T.J. MCCAULEY (Post 6643920)
Make sure to put 4000 miles on it quickly so we can get a vid of some tire shredding! :lol: Motor is looking killer! Can't wait to hear it run(I hope!)! :chevy:

4,000? I was always told by 500 miles the rings were seated and ready to go. I used to drive around all night until I had 500 miles. LOL

Breaking in the cam. My least favorite thing of a new engine build. The neighbors love it though!

Sharps40 04-24-2014 12:12 PM

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Yep, 4000 miles. A 500 mile oil and filter change with full service checks and retorques.

The first 3500 mile oil and filter change, full service checks and retorques.

At this point ye'll be confident in the entire system, very familiar with its performance quirks and characteristics and ride quality and with bunghole just absolutly quiverin to suck up an upholstery plug on the first burnout.

Sharps40 04-24-2014 12:19 PM

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Make sure ya got a spatula near by to break the seal twixt ass and seat after the first burn out. Scotchguard the upholstery first.

1963c-10 04-24-2014 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sharps40 (Post 6644079)
Make sure ya got a spatula near by to break the seal twixt ass and seat after the first burn out. Scotchguard the upholstery first.

Haha....my upholsterer already did the scotch guard treatment for me.

dwcardfan 04-25-2014 12:30 AM

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The big block looks sweet!!!!!

1963c-10 04-25-2014 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by dwcardfan (Post 6645105)
The big block looks sweet!!!!!

Thanks a bunch for the kind words!!

1963c-10 04-26-2014 08:15 PM

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good news, finally got the engine conversion started. pulled the radiator and all electric systems, got the engine disconnected and removed. got the starter and bellhousing pans pulled for clean up as they'll be reused. motor mounts are pulled and i got a few coats of degreaser down. hood is off and front end will be next. i'll get the trans, driveshaft and bellhousing pulled tomorrow. i also got the exhaust system removed. removed all bolted in clutch components, just the frame mounted portion to grind the rivots off of. i'll also try and get the m/c and upper brake lines out. once front ends out 8 can get the crossmember dropped and the frame prepped. i'll get some pics up later

1963c-10 04-26-2014 09:01 PM

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Heres a few pics from last night and this morning. Feels good to finally get started on this part of the project. A few years worth of saving and buying parts coming to a head and alot of conversions and upgrades going on. Will b amuch differnt ride.

-Engine conversion 230 to 427
-Trans from standard non synchronized column shift to hd fully synchronized floor shift
-Cluth from mechanical to hydraulic
-Brakes from 4 wheel drum/single master to disk brakes on dual mc w/stainless steel lines
-All new front suspension, springs & shocks + adding sway bar

niterider65 04-26-2014 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 1963c-10 (Post 6643136)
Got the fan and spacer on the big block and I think it looks much better with the blue accents on the fan. The blue on the fan really broke up that solid chrome/stainless steel look I had going on. My OCD is happier with it too. The 2" spacer I already had, so I just cleaned it up and used it. I could get away with a 1", but I don't want to buy one until the engine is in and I know how my clearance looks on the radiator. I'll get some matching ARP bolts down the road so it matches the rest of the engine, but for now the grade 5 bolts will work. Still gotta swap the valve covers and unbolt and slide the distributor over a little for some clearance at the vacuum advance/water bypass hose on the pass side. But no biggie and easier to do once its out by the truck. Will do both at the same time so I can visualize the valves and TDC.

sure am liking the way that motor is lookin :chevy::metal:
keep up the good work

1963c-10 04-26-2014 09:06 PM

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Some more progress today. Have done all work solo so far, but I'll get done what I can on nights and weekends and it'll get done when its done. A forum member Eric stopped by today. He's getting transferred to Bragg from Eustis and is a helicopter mechanic. Has was nice enough to help remove the hood while he was there...much needed and thanks a bunch!!

Heres a few of the engine coming out and of it completely out. All bolts have come out great so far. Will get more done tomorrow. Didn't get a pic of the bays 1st degreasing or of the engine mounts and clutch mounts out, but it'll be in pics down the road.

Note*** Harbor freight hoist has worked great for the 427, the 348 and the 230. There was still another 6-7 inches left on the boom, and it was in the rear position. Its a 1 ton foldable and I'm completely satisfied with every project it's done so far. Payed like $105 shipped to the house with the online coupon a few months back.

1963c-10 04-26-2014 09:09 PM

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Once the front ends off and the crossmembers in I can get the hole drilled in the crossmember for the cpp mounts in the rear location. Trim frame rails for header clearance and check valve cover clearance.

1963c-10 04-26-2014 09:13 PM

Re: 1963 C-10 in NC
 
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Originally Posted by niterider65 (Post 6647485)
sure am liking the way that motor is lookin :chevy::metal:
keep up the good work

Thanks I appreciate it. It feels great to finally get to the point of doing the swap. And looking forward to a little more go in the gas pedal!!!:burnout:

Eric15chevys 04-27-2014 10:38 AM

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Had fun getting to look around at all the parts. I wish I could have stayed to pull the engine, but friends were making homemade pizza. Hopefully I can get back over and help with the rest of the install...Oh and helicopter mechanic not pilot. I actually work.

1963c-10 04-27-2014 08:44 PM

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Got a little mre truck time in today. Got the driveshaft removed, transmission and bellhousing. Was able to do a few coats of degreasing and get the frame cleaned up real nice. Ground down the rivet heads to remove the frame linkage. Then groud down the rivets to clean the frame up. Pulled all of the rear brake lines and disconnected the system from the mc. I'll pull the front lines with the crossmember once the front end is removed. Then applied a good coat of rust converter/sealer/inhibitor to protect the frame. I want at least one more coat, I normally do 2 and 2 coats of paint with great success.

I feel good with 1st weekend work. Little tired from all the work and jumping in and out of the truck for 2 days, but its getting there.

We've got a few days of rain coming so may be a few days before i get the front end off.

1963c-10 04-27-2014 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric15chevys (Post 6648132)
Had fun getting to look around at all the parts. I wish I could have stayed to pull the engine, but friends were making homemade pizza. Hopefully I can get back over and help with the rest of the install...Oh and helicopter mechanic not pilot. I actually work.

Enjoyed the company and the truck talk. Looking forward to seeing your 62 and maybe helping some also. I corrected the pilot/mechanical thing....sorry...classic case of fingers not typing with the brain.

And the pizza was probably more fun than turning wrenches!!! I got alot done this weekend for 1 person and the number of things going on.

CRGRS 66 04-27-2014 11:36 PM

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Cleaning up nice, lots of hard work there, especially with the cab on, looking good, can't wait to see that big block in there:metal:

1963c-10 04-28-2014 08:19 AM

Re: 1963 C-10 in NC
 
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Originally Posted by CRGRS 66 (Post 6649345)
Cleaning up nice, lots of hard work there, especially with the cab on, looking good, can't wait to see that big block in there:metal:

Thanks. Yeah....my hands are feeling it today after two days of wrench turning and frame cleaning. Access isn't too bad, especially with the trans cover removed. Its cleaning up real nice though...haven't encountered any bad asphalt or road paint that doesn't want to remove. Its mostly oil, grease and mud. The rest will have to be done off my back on the ground. Luckily the frame is really clean once you pass the e-brake crossmember. The bed will be coming off in a few weeks when I do the rear end posi conversion and also to paint the back of the cab. So I'll do the tops of the frame rails once its off.

Cab looks ok from the bottom....driver side will need inner/outer rocker, lower a piller, toe boards and cab corners and cab supports...which was to be expected. Pass side is a little better, but will pretty much get the same treatment.

TJ's Chevy 04-28-2014 10:57 AM

Re: 1963 C-10 in NC
 
Looking good bud! :chevy:

1963c-10 04-28-2014 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by T.J. MCCAULEY (Post 6649879)
Looking good bud! :chevy:

Thanks TJ. Slowly but surely it'll get there. I have a buddy coming over this week to help pull the front end sheet metal. Then I can drop the cross member. Have already cleaned the front frame pretty good. Just the areas I can't reach left, but I'll have good access pretty soon.

61K10 04-28-2014 11:55 AM

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looking good--a little here--a little there and you will be done lol! don't we wish it was that easy--

1963c-10 04-28-2014 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 61K10 (Post 6649957)
looking good--a little here--a little there and you will be done lol! don't we wish it was that easy--

Yeah...wish it was like the 1 hour tv shows, but then reality steps in and it'll be time consuming. I've always been a fan of the little projects because they do add up. Especially with my work load and I'm never sure where my time will open up.

Eric15chevys 04-28-2014 02:36 PM

Re: 1963 C-10 in NC
 
I showed the picture of the engine removal at work and a guy there might be interested.

1963c-10 04-28-2014 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric15chevys (Post 6650213)
I showed the picture of the engine removal at work and a guy there might be interested.

Ok, just let me know. I"ll hold off on listing it then until we see what he says. Its complete from air cleaner to oil pan. I'd recommend a rebuild or at least new rings/gaskets. Still holds 40 psi cold on oil and will hold 30-35 psi warm all day long. Was last run on 4/23/14. It is 51 years old and has never rebuilt to my knowledge. I have all the records back to 1972 on the truck/engine.

Fuel pump was replaced about 4k miles back. Carb was replaced w/ a Holly remanufactured 1bbl Rochester a year ago. Pertronix II was installed 2 years ago w/matching coil. You've seen the engine, so you pretty much know what it entails. I've never had to do any major work to it....ie. take the head or oil pan off.

I will be keeping the alternator (its the same part # for my 348 "w" block, but the brackets will go with the engine.

The transmission will need a home too. Muncie mc318 non-synchronized 3 speed. I have a few pics of the engine I can post for you.

1963c-10 04-29-2014 11:03 AM

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Got home late last night and saw the UPS guy beating feet down the driveway at a fast pace. Looked to the left and figured out why. Exhaust kit came in .....and obviously out somewhere. Looks like the box was ripped completely in half and half ass taped back up. And the exhaust pipe was stuck completely out of the box. Took pics for reference...and did inventory. All parts there except for a few bolts that will cost $4-5 at home depot to replace so I'm not filing a claim and going through all the hassle, but UPS will get a call today. 2nd box in a week with damage. 1st was the broken column parts and now this.

Always glad to have parts show up, but man it sucks to walk out and see a box in this shape.

1963c-10 04-29-2014 11:06 AM

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The exhaust kit was all there except for a few bolts. Test fit everything and no damage to the pipes, hardware or mufflers. Looks like a great kit. The "H" pipe is already welded and the price was right. We'll see how install goes with mods as its advertised as a 66-72 kit. So e-brake is the only issue that should pop up, but we'll deal with that when the time comes. I do have to get a different part to mount to the "ball flange" style headers I have, but they seem available through Summit and Jegs.

The storms kept me in last night, but I was able to degrease and strip the two bellhousing pans so I can get them prepped for paint. So at least it wasn't a total loss of a night.

TJ's Chevy 04-29-2014 11:09 AM

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UPS is nothing but a bunch of overcharging idiots. They charge almost twice as much as fedex for longer shipping time and to damage your packaging. But at least you got your kit an its fitting good. If you had lost some parts though I'd still file a complaint against them. Time to start changing some of this carelessness. :chevy:

1963c-10 04-29-2014 11:26 AM

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I've done the whole file a claim thing in the past with UPS....very time consuming and a big PITA. I'll definitely contact them but for $5 in parts I'll replace them myself.

At least it wasn't NOS parts like the last episode. Lost a factory passenger side cast iron mirror arm and an offset mirror head. They delivered an empty box.....

1963c-10 04-29-2014 01:21 PM

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Got on Summit this morning and ordered the Hedman header reducers. Part # 21115 for the 3" inlet and 2.5" outlet ball/socket and costs was only $25.92 shipped. So this should wrap up the exhaust minus tips if I decide to install them.

WhippinSaw 04-29-2014 04:47 PM

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Excited for ya , beautiful job on the motor, gonna be sweet. :metal:

1963c-10 04-29-2014 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by WhippinSaw (Post 6652098)
Excited for ya , beautiful job on the motor, gonna be sweet. :metal:

i appreciate the compliments. work has been at a stand still due to the storms. had a flash flood come through earlier and the creek in my front yard went up 2' in less than an hour. washed out over the driveway and took a few inches of crush and run with it. got some pretty good size hail too. but hopefully it'l pass in a day or so and i can get the driveway fixed and back on the truck. im ready to get the front end off and front crossmember dropped. its my weeks goal.

i cant wait to get her back on the road and its only been a few days.


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