Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

Doug-

The mounting of the hydrogen bombs (I mean air tanks) looks good. I will have to remember this placement when I get to that point.

Nice progress. Yes those uni-bits do work nice.

Marc

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nice work, OMG I can't tell you how annoying drilling holes are. Just did some today and yah just getting one all the way through took forever, then the unibits make quick work of it. I buy the hobo freight ones when they come on sale, I must say they work great esp for the price. I'v been meaning to buy a hammer drill but like most things I need I haven't gotten yet. I want to also try plasmaing a hole then drilling that out, gotta wait for new cups to come for my plasma, so haven't even tried that trick yet.

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

Marc,
They do look like bombs! Should paint them up to look WWII vintage, though no one will see them usually. The 5 gallon tank just wouldn't work here and hopefully these two will work fine. Have you figured out the gas tank yet? :)

The control valve block fits well here in the center of this crossmember and it has plenty of clearance under the floor. It mounts with #10 machine screws so I made this plate to mount the block to, then the plate mounts to the crossmember using the welded in 1/4" flanged nuts.

When I was making the little plate I cut it out with the whizzer wheel. One edge was a bit jagged and I thought of all the great builds I've been following on here....so through the positive influence I scribed a square line and sanded the edge to that line. No one would ever see that plate and I still had to do it right. Trying my best!

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I ordered a drop down battery box from Jegs at 9:30 PM earlier this week and the next day it shows up at 3:00 PM. Wow, guess I clicked on overnight delivery.

Since It showed I figured I better get it installed to justify the overnight delivery expense.

Before removing the body we figured the best place to hide it, under the floor, was right here in front of the right rear four link attachment.

The frame here has the outward protrusion shape for the parking brake cross shaft and the rivets preventing the battery box from installing flush to the frame.

So I cut the protrusion out of the frame.

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

Then I made a pattern following the process Diceman showed in his build and video. If you haven't seen the build or the video, check it out for really great fabrication.

Using a piece of manila folder and my small ball peen hammer, I tapped the outline of the shape into the folder. This got the shape really close for trimming to the edge that you can see in the second picture.

Once the pattern fit the hole I transferred it to the metal and cut it out on the band saw.

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The cut out piece was close and I use a little belt sander to shape the final bits.

To save these old knees getting up and down any more than necessary, I brought the belt sander to where I was working.

I tend to mark the piece and place an adjoining mark on the frame to make sure I am checking fit the same way every time.

Once the fit is good, the piece was held in with magnets then I tacked it in four places to keep flush with the frame.

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I welded inch long beads skipping around. My welds were a bit too proud and I think the wire feed was a little high. I could see good burn in and I guess I was too lazy to get up and turn down the wire feed speed. Nope, I don't weld as well as many folks here and I do my best. Really need more practice.

The flap disk on the 4 1/2" grinder made short work of smoothing the welds. Really love that thing!

Then I positioned where the holes needed to be, welded in flanged nuts and mounted the box.

Since there is the possibility of having a dead battery with the air bags deflated, putting this truck on the ground like a slug, I am pretty sure I will wire in some remote terminals for jump starting.

It was a great day in the shop today. Grandsons spent the night last night and had a good time this morning with us. They pretty much wore us out.

Happy New Year guys!

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

99, I sure missed my uni-bits and didn't mess around long before driving the 10 miles to town to get another one. Those holes for the transmission mount took like 2 hours to drill with a regular bit. It was awkward with the angle drill head just sneaking under the top frame flange.

I haven't tried the plasma to make a hole. Being accurate with it is a bit challenging for me just on a line. I saw where your cup and tip burned up or just fell apart. That is a bummer.

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

No I have not figured out the tank yet. sounds like you are waiting on me....JK
I have been trying to figure my brakes out. I think I have it covered. I will upgrade to 13" rotors. This will require ordering a new brake kit from Travis at Pro Performance. He is a vendor on this site and great to work with. My focus is to get it to a rolling chassis first, then I will figure out the drivetrain. By then you will have the gas tank figured out for us....Your welcome.

I was just looking at battery boxes the other day. Can you send me the prt number? Does it fit an optima sized battery.

The progress looks good. Today was spent watching bowl games. I plan to get in the garage tomorrow.

I'm very familiar with the frame indentations that you filled. I just filled the small rivets holes surrounding the indentation, and I was thinking of filling the indentation. I use tracing paper to trace an accurate outline which I transfer over to cardboard, then over to metal to cut the shape.

Marc

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Hey Marc, that sounds like a good process for making a pattern.

I need to figure out brakes...among a bunch of things too...so will be interested in what you come up with. What spindles do you have?

I have some ideas for the tank and I know I want outside fill. The body will go back on the frame soon so I can kick that around and try some ideas.

Here is a link to the battery box I ordered. It looked the same on Jegs, Summit and Speedway. It feels a little flimsy though I guess it will work. Don't know about an optima battery fitting.

http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS-Performan...10225/10002/-1

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I have the stainless version of the same box, the literature claims it will accept an Optima Red top

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

I was actually thinking about this last week. Moving the battery out of the stock location and putting it in a drop down box. Also adding some remote terminals. Looks great........

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

Looks good Doug!!
You're going fast in this new year! :lol:
Keep it up :metal:

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Thanks for the plug A/D.

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

Hey Doug,

Nice update on work, looks good. Happy New Year to you and Ms. Cindy...Jim

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

Thanks Doug.

I will run 13" brakes front and rear. I have McGaughys dropped spindles. They sell the spindles with a 13" rotor as a kit (Prt 63155). The crazy thing is they only sell it as a kit. I had the spindles. I didn't get it as a kit because I was not thinking that far ahead when I decided on my spindles. The long story I alluded to was I'm sending my spindles back to Travis at Pro Performance and buying the kit. the kit gives you the option of 5 x 5 or 5 x 4.75 which is what I'm going with since it will match my rear end bot pattern.

I mounted the drop down battery tray on my 48 behind the front passenger side tire. It is a nice area void of anything and close to the starter. I had to trim the top of the battery box in order to tuck it up high enough. I'm thinking of placing the Burb battery in the same place. I will look into the box you bought. Thanks for the info. I like that it comes in black.

Marc

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Thanks JJ. Good to know.

Thanks Coach. I hope I don't regret this location. Remote terminals and likely an on / off switch are on the to do list for this one.

Appreciate that Kees! Actually this was the work I did all week. Wow how the time flew by!

Well that supercharged 6 you are building is very cool. It is nice to see something different and it aligns with the theme of your truck. Plus great fab work you are doing.

Hey Jim, Happy New Year to you guys too! Did you notice I am using your flanged nut idea? LOL!

Marc, I appreciate the info on the brakes and will check to see if they will work with what I have. Not sure as this came from Heidts and it has kinda smallish rotors. I kicked the battery location around and decided to go where I did. Earl on the Clarence J. Whiskey Bottle build did a really nice box and mounted the battery behind the right front tire.

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After kicking around various locations for the air pumps I decided to go here.

The pump rubber bushing mounting feet have an inner bushing that fit a #10 machine screw perfectly. Rather than do a through the frame bolt and nut set up I made use of these....ah, I forget what they are called and I have a bag of 100 of them. They are used for using a #10 machine screw to attach something to wood and I had them from my 35 Chevy.

Sanded the cleats off and they worked very well for welding to the frame just as I did for the tank mounting.

The pumps should be far enough away from the exhaust as they are near the top of the frame and the exhaust will include a cross over about right here moving it farther from the pumps....I hope!

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Oh yeah, my neighbor bead blasted and rebuilt the door hinges with new pins.

Here is the obligatory picture of them hanging from our high tech painting fixture.

The rear upper hinges were sticking and a disassembly, cleaning, some new washers and lube they now work reasonably well.

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

Just a quick question On the AD trucks are the cabs the same on a pickup as a one tone truck

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I'm liking the progress. nice job on the hinges. those things are noooot cheap if you buy repros, so fixing them is def worth it.

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

Blake, yes the cabs are the same.

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Thanks 99. Didn't need the bushings amazingly enough. The pins were siezed up though and I guess the doors didn't get much use. They were probably never lubed.

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

Doug, I always just used regular nut, Mark came up with the flanged nut, more area to weld.

The bag of 100 are called Tee Nuts, used in wood alot. I used them in many builds, also more to weld too. I've used them up to 3/8", not sure if they make them in larger sizes...Jim

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

Thank you Jim. I was drawing a blank on the name for tee nuts. Fastenal has them up to 3/8". Those would be handy in a number of applications.

Sorry Mark, I was giving Jim credit for the flanged nut idea. Works really well!

One of the benefits of spending time here is learning from each other.

Here is a link to tee nuts.
https://www.fastenal.com/products/de...ee%20Nuts%22|~

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Nice work AD. I like your tank and compressor location. What kind of lines are you running?

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Thanks Lower, nothing trick on the lines. Just using the dot stuff that came from Ridetech is my plan. Except for the final run to the front bags, where I have a steel braided set up to make use of. And I am always open for suggestions.

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For sure Mark. I have certainly picked up a lot of good ideas on here!

Hey Marc, here is the crossmember I mentioned in the PM. I took it out for fuel tank clearance.

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

Then I threw the body back on the frame to measure for a fuel tank. This one was a custom piece that was in the 56 Chevy when it had the irs and is 4 inches shorter. I think the unit from Tanks will work really well, if it will fit. There is room between the frame and body for the fill to go through the lower body behind the left tire, then turn up and exit through the fender. A friend has one for his current 52 Buick build so I will probably borrow it for test fitting before buying one.

I was also pretty happy with the fit of the tanks and pumps, not so happy with the battery box location. It clears the body well, though with the running boards on I don't know that I can service the battery. Ha on me....restoration guys are pointing and laughing. :)

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

Moving to the other end of the vehicle in figuring out what fits, a friend found this ac compressor mount at Vintage Air. Looks like it will provide clearance to the right inner fender and works with the truck accessory drive. It might interfere with a thermostat housing that points straight forward.

http://www.vintageair.com/2015%20Cat...talog%2068.pdf

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And if the 56 tank won't work....it might be too long front to back....the 53 / 54 tank from Tanks is a possibility. Especially if the filler neck connection unbolts like it shows in the picture.

Wouldn't it be great to have all these parts on a shelf so you could just grab one and test fit, instead of guessing based on measurements and pictures?

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

So did you confirm that that brace you removed was not used as for the rear body mounts? Again, I could be wrong.

Marc

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I don't think it was on this Burb Marc. I didn't remember removing any body bolts in this area. To confirm, I checked out the original floor and crossmember. There are no witness marks showing a mount.

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

Thanks Doug. Sorry to put you through the trouble. You beat me to it. I was going to go out to the garage and look at my stock floor to confirm.

Marc

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

No problem Marc. I looked yesterday before I took the crossmember out. Glad you mentioned it just in case I needed it.

Another option for the fuel tank is this one for a 65 Burb a friend is building. Going to test fit it in addition to a couple of others. And will evaluate the 69 Mustang with this type of fill too.

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I have this one! The compressor clears, but the tensioner *just* hits the inner fender - I am planning to make a vertical cut in the inner fender and bow it outward ~3/8" to make a pocket and gain the clearance I need.

I suspect, since your engine is about 1" further back than mine, you should be good to go without modifications :metal:

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

Thanks JJ! Good to know.

I just came across another fuel tank option dwcsr linked us to on one of his builds. Didn't remember this one. 68 Camaro tank. Looks like a good option.

Re: 48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait
 

Hi A.D. I 've been searching for a tank for my truck too. Lots of options available but I couldn't find any that worked for me so I decided to build my own. I bought a sheet of stainless steel and then all the hardware from Tanks Inc. Probably a more expensive route but it will fit. If you find a tank that fits you could move the fill location with parts from Tanks Inc.

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Thanks 65sub. I was just over on Tanks website tonight looking at dimensions and parts needed. The 68 Camaro fuel injection tank is a good possible solution, if it doesn't hang down too low to do the side fill I have in mind.

Hope you post up your tank build as I would like to follow that!