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Dieselwrencher 05-10-2012 03:32 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Beat68CST (Post 5372607)
Soo, I am at the EXACT same point you are, I literally tried a 7.3 intercooler yesterday evening, too narrow, then my grandpa gave me the same Dodge one you have today and it's tall as all get out!

What are you gonna do about the hood latch? I just bolted my latch up to see if it'd all clear and it ain't lookin too hot.

Well, I'm planning on cutting the hood latch from the mount and moving it 1-1 1/2" and doing the same to the hood guide plate on the hood. It's either that or move the intercooler clear down to the bottom of the support which means cutting into the bottom brace. I'm not going to do that because there goes the support and there brings more work in to play. :lol:

By the way, where's your build thread?

Dieselwrencher 05-10-2012 03:33 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
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Originally Posted by wutnxt (Post 5358268)
"Thanks man. Still have a ways to go to get to your level buddy.

My level?
Dude now your talking lets slammmmmmm that 4x4 and get down to my level.....LMAO**Seriously dude you ave great game and this is a great build....can't wait to see it completed...

I've always had thoughts of doing a 2wd swb play toy. Shoot, that would have to be easier than the corvette! :lol: Maybe some day when I don't have any torn apart projects. Can that even happen? :lol:

mknittle 05-10-2012 03:49 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
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Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher (Post 5373343)
I've always had thoughts of doing a 2wd swb play toy. Shoot, that would have to be easier than the corvette! :lol: Maybe some day when I don't have any torn apart projects. Can that even happen? :lol:

how about a swb pro street with a cummins:metal:

SS Tim 05-10-2012 04:11 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
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Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher (Post 5373343)
I've always had thoughts of doing a 2wd swb play toy. Shoot, that would have to be easier than the corvette! :lol: Maybe some day when I don't have any torn apart projects. Can that even happen? :lol:

Well if you are going to do that, why stop at 2wd? Make it a lowered AWD with a bed mounted engine, Maybe a stepside to reach it better or a flopper hinged fleetside bed. How much of a torque input rating do you need for a t-case?

SS Tim 05-10-2012 04:18 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
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Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher (Post 5373341)
Well, I'm planning on cutting the hood latch from the mount and moving it 1-1 1/2" and doing the same to the hood guide plate on the hood. It's either that or move the intercooler clear down to the bottom of the support which means cutting into the bottom brace. I'm not going to do that because there goes the support and there brings more work in to play. :lol:

Don't some Corvettes use two latches at the rear of the hood? Wouldn't just two stock latches near the corners beyond the intercooler make everything work? A crossover rod or cable would tie them together. Just a thought.

Beat68CST 05-10-2012 06:20 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher (Post 5373341)
Well, I'm planning on cutting the hood latch from the mount and moving it 1-1 1/2" and doing the same to the hood guide plate on the hood. It's either that or move the intercooler clear down to the bottom of the support which means cutting into the bottom brace. I'm not going to do that because there goes the support and there brings more work in to play. :lol:

By the way, where's your build thread?


I never started a build thread because I knew I wouldn't be consistent enough or have the time to keep up on it.

I've taken pictures here and there throughout the deal but just never made a thread. I have a thread that has a few updates, nothin spectacular though.
Doing this 2wd with and Auto is proving to be a good challenge though! I don't have all the clearance like you 4wd guys!

Dieselwrencher 05-10-2012 07:08 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
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Originally Posted by Beat68CST (Post 5373635)
I never started a build thread because I knew I wouldn't be consistent enough or have the time to keep up on it.

I've taken pictures here and there throughout the deal but just never made a thread. I have a thread that has a few updates, nothin spectacular though.
Doing this 2wd with and Auto is proving to be a good challenge though! I don't have all the clearance like you 4wd guys!

Say what? The 2wd's are way easier than a 4wd. No front driveshaft or diff housing to clear, and you can get it in there without hacking up your original cross member.

Start a thread son! :lol:

Dieselwrencher 05-10-2012 07:10 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SS Tim (Post 5373437)
Don't some Corvettes use two latches at the rear of the hood? Wouldn't just two stock latches near the corners beyond the intercooler make everything work? A crossover rod or cable would tie them together. Just a thought.

That could work. Those corvette latches are a sob though. :lol:

Dieselwrencher 05-10-2012 07:11 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
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Originally Posted by SS Tim (Post 5373417)
Well if you are going to do that, why stop at 2wd? Make it a lowered AWD with a bed mounted engine, Maybe a stepside to reach it better or a flopper hinged fleetside bed. How much of a torque input rating do you need for a t-case?

Don't give me any ideas! :lol:

Beat68CST 05-11-2012 03:58 AM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
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Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher (Post 5373702)
Say what? The 2wd's are way easier than a 4wd. No front driveshaft or diff housing to clear, and you can get it in there without hacking up your original cross member.

Start a thread son! :lol:

I didn't want to cut up my cab to build a bigger trans tunnel! Crossmembers are easy to come by, decent cabs are hard!

I'll start a build thread if you set me up with a big turbo so I can do compounds with my sissy little Aurora 2000! ;):hm:

Dieselwrencher 05-11-2012 03:03 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
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Originally Posted by Beat68CST (Post 5374544)
I didn't want to cut up my cab to build a bigger trans tunnel! Crossmembers are easy to come by, decent cabs are hard!

I'll start a build thread if you set me up with a big turbo so I can do compounds with my sissy little Aurora 2000! ;):hm:

What? Ever heard of a high hump? :lol: You spent money on a purple turbo? In that case you can afford to buy a nice primary! :lol: I've got a couple turbos I could sell you, but they aren't going to be free.

6lcummins 05-11-2012 05:46 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
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Originally Posted by Beat68CST (Post 5374544)
I didn't want to cut up my cab to build a bigger trans tunnel! Crossmembers are easy to come by, decent cabs are hard!

I'll start a build thread if you set me up with a big turbo so I can do compounds with my sissy little Aurora 2000! ;):hm:

Hope they rebox the S300G's better than their higher series turbos.

Beat68CST 05-11-2012 05:46 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
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Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher (Post 5375220)
What? Ever heard of a high hump? :lol: You spent money on a purple turbo? In that case you can afford to buy a nice primary! :lol: I've got a couple turbos I could sell you, but they aren't going to be free.

Nooo, high humps aren't as classy! ;D

I wanted to keep the truck as original appearing as possible since my grandma was the original owner from 68-96 when she passed away!

The Aurora I bought with a set of DDP "Stage 3" injectors and a fuel plate for $380, I couldn't pass that up! Aren't those injectors like 5x.013, right?

6lcummins 05-11-2012 07:28 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
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Originally Posted by Beat68CST (Post 5375451)
Nooo, high humps aren't as classy! ;D

I wanted to keep the truck as original appearing as possible since my grandma was the original owner from 68-96 when she passed away!

The Aurora I bought with a set of DDP "Stage 3" injectors and a fuel plate for $380, I couldn't pass that up! Aren't those injectors like 5x.013, right?

I'm going to warn you, they will be dirty, hot, and may cause issues down the road. Stage 3 DDP injectors are none other than Bosch Marine 370s relabeled as DDP. Marine 370's are a 155* Spray angle 5*0.012" injector and you can not run over 20* of timing or you will cause issues in your engine. What fuel plate did you get with the deal?

I wouldn't recommend anything bigger than a 145* 5*0.012" SAC injector for your A2000, if I was the one selling you Ryan's injectors.

Beat68CST 05-11-2012 07:51 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Fuel plate is a 6 profile I believe.

This turbo is pretty much just a non gated S300 though, right?

6lcummins 05-11-2012 08:47 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Nope, if memory serves me correct, I got hung up on for asking if the the A2000 was similar to the S300G, and if the A3000 was similar to the S300. S300G is a smaller cartridge than the S300. They don't seem to like that people know they don't produce their own turbos.

Dieselwrencher 05-11-2012 10:35 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
I'm going to take a stab here, but I think A2000's are S200 series and the A3000's are S300's. 200's do look very similar to 300's though.

Beat68CST 05-14-2012 06:08 AM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Well ride on, thanks for the help/input guys!

Appreciate it all from the both of ya!

Anyway you might know of a exhaust manifold like the 24v ones that put the turbo to the front of the motor that has the right ports or am I gonna have to build one?

Dieselwrencher 05-14-2012 03:25 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
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Originally Posted by Beat68CST (Post 5379292)
Well ride on, thanks for the help/input guys!

Appreciate it all from the both of ya!

Anyway you might know of a exhaust manifold like the 24v ones that put the turbo to the front of the motor that has the right ports or am I gonna have to build one?

I have one that will place the turbo on dang near top of the #2-3 valve covers. I can post a pic of one if you want.

Dieselwrencher 05-14-2012 03:30 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
No big progress this weekend. Between working on a semi and sluffing off with the owner, and Mother's Day, I didn't get much done on this thing. But I did manage to get the hydra boost on. It isn't done as I have to build a linkage to connect the brake pedal too, and drill 2 holes in the mounting plate to finish bolting it to the fire wall. I did find my clutch pedals and get them in finally. I also removed the large spring from the clutch pedal because I won't be using it. By the way, I had to go hydraboost because now that I raised the engine up and brought it back more, a vacuum type set up will not fit.

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...n/IMG_0461.jpg
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...n/IMG_0462.jpg

Getting ready to build the last charge air cooler (CAC) pipe.
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...n/IMG_0463.jpg

2 steps forward, 3 steps back. I'm going to have to modify my engine mounting bracket to clear the PS line. Yeehaw!
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...n/IMG_0464.jpg

Vintage Windmills 05-14-2012 04:25 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Ryan, I think you'll like the hydroboost. I have it on my 01 hd and its hard to tell if the trailer brakes are working :)

Keep up the good work,
Jud

Beat68CST 05-14-2012 07:40 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
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Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher (Post 5380065)
I have one that will place the turbo on dang near top of the #2-3 valve covers. I can post a pic of one if you want.

If you could that would be awesome!

Motor mounts are a blast to build that clear everything on these trucks, huh?!

Don't ya think you might be able to get a custom hardline built to get around it all?

Dieselwrencher 05-14-2012 07:42 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
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Originally Posted by Beat68CST (Post 5380522)
If you could that would be awesome!

Motor mounts are a blast to build that clear everything on these trucks, huh?!

Don't ya think you might be able to get a custom hardline built to get around it all?

That's no joke. :lol: I'll look for a pic and if I don't have one I'll take one in the morning. I might be able to build a hard line, but it's going to be real tight. We'll see. :devil:

6lcummins 05-14-2012 10:40 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Custom power steering hoses are ridiculously expensive, tried that on the Corvette.

ryanroo 05-14-2012 11:20 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
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Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher (Post 5380075)

2 steps forward, 3 steps back. I'm going to have to modify my engine mounting bracket to clear the PS line. Yeehaw!
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...n/IMG_0464.jpg

i feel your pain there!

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l8...ruck/005-3.jpg

:)

ryanroo 05-14-2012 11:34 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
i cant tell for sure in your pic, but there may be room for a metric 0-ring to JIC #6 (AN6) adapter and a block 90* i did that on my jeep. then you can use standard hydralic pressure hose and fittings. you need two 16m and one 14m to convert the hydraboost and the steering pump. then another 16m for the box if it isnt a std. flare type. if i remember correctly. in doing the jeep including the hose and fittings for the Howe assist ram and box i think i may have spent 90$ on hydraulic hose and another 20-30$ on fittings. the adapters are 10ish bones apeice. pretty cheap for super stout and easy to make hoses.

ryan

mknittle 05-15-2012 09:42 AM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher (Post 5380075)
No big progress this weekend. Between working on a semi and sluffing off with the owner, and Mother's Day, I didn't get much done on this thing. But I did manage to get the hydra boost on. It isn't done as I have to build a linkage to connect the brake pedal too, and drill 2 holes in the mounting plate to finish bolting it to the fire wall. I did find my clutch pedals and get them in finally. I also removed the large spring from the clutch pedal because I won't be using it. By the way, I had to go hydraboost because now that I raised the engine up and brought it back more, a vacuum type set up will not fit.

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...n/IMG_0461.jpg
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...n/IMG_0462.jpg

Getting ready to build the last charge air cooler (CAC) pipe.
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...n/IMG_0463.jpg

2 steps forward, 3 steps back. I'm going to have to modify my engine mounting bracket to clear the PS line. Yeehaw!
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...n/IMG_0464.jpg

The hydroboost is a life saver. That was the only way I could get power brakes on my v6 powered 42 willys jeep.best power brakes I ever had!

mknittle 05-15-2012 09:52 AM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
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Originally Posted by ryanroo (Post 5381114)
i cant tell for sure in your pic, but there may be room for a metric 0-ring to JIC #6 (AN6) adapter and a block 90* i did that on my jeep. then you can use standard hydralic pressure hose and fittings. you need two 16m and one 14m to convert the hydraboost and the steering pump. then another 16m for the box if it isnt a std. flare type. if i remember correctly. in doing the jeep including the hose and fittings for the Howe assist ram and box i think i may have spent 90$ on hydraulic hose and another 20-30$ on fittings. the adapters are 10ish bones apeice. pretty cheap for super stout and easy to make hoses.

ryan

:lol: Jeeps offer many offer many opportunitys for creativity!

Dieselwrencher 05-15-2012 04:31 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ryanroo (Post 5381114)
i cant tell for sure in your pic, but there may be room for a metric 0-ring to JIC #6 (AN6) adapter and a block 90* i did that on my jeep. then you can use standard hydralic pressure hose and fittings. you need two 16m and one 14m to convert the hydraboost and the steering pump. then another 16m for the box if it isnt a std. flare type. if i remember correctly. in doing the jeep including the hose and fittings for the Howe assist ram and box i think i may have spent 90$ on hydraulic hose and another 20-30$ on fittings. the adapters are 10ish bones apeice. pretty cheap for super stout and easy to make hoses.

ryan

I may try that. I am pretty sure I can notch my engine mount and get a line in there, but I don't really want to. I'm going to check a couple of things and see what I can come up with. Thanks for that tip though, I might be going that route. :lol:

Dieselwrencher 05-15-2012 04:34 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
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Originally Posted by Beat68CST (Post 5380522)
If you could that would be awesome!

Here you go.

12v manifold
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...r/IMG_0468.jpg
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...r/IMG_0467.jpg

24v manifold
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...r/IMG_0466.jpg
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...r/IMG_0465.jpg

You can either run the turbo down low and the manifold dumps at 4 and 5 or flip it over and the turbo will be up top. You will have to source or build a spacer to get the turbo off the valve covers. Let me know if you need one, I have 2 of each.

Beat68CST 05-15-2012 09:28 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Thanks again man, I'll be sure to let ya know!

Keep up the work! I'm goin back to mine now, I'm gettin jealous!

Dieselwrencher 05-22-2012 06:29 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
No more progress. I did get some fittings and wouldn't you know it, I can't get one in there either. I have a steel line I'm going to try to fit in there with some mods to the engine mount bracket. It's always got to be some thing!

SS Tim 05-22-2012 08:19 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
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Originally Posted by SS Tim (Post 5373437)
Don't some Corvettes use two latches at the rear of the hood? Wouldn't just two stock latches near the corners beyond the intercooler make everything work? A crossover rod or cable would tie them together. Just a thought.

On second thought this might be just the ticket for your truck!

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=218253

Dieselwrencher 05-22-2012 10:28 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Thanks for that link Tim! I doubt I'll do it to this truck though. :lol:

woodwright 05-22-2012 10:47 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
I've never cared much for the forward tilting hood. Seems like it would just get in the way. I would love to have the whole nose tilt forward. Now that would be handy.

mcbassin 05-22-2012 11:32 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
New progress Ryan?

Dieselwrencher 05-23-2012 02:14 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
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Originally Posted by woodwright (Post 5395397)
I've never cared much for the forward tilting hood. Seems like it would just get in the way. I would love to have the whole nose tilt forward. Now that would be handy.

I was thinking the same thing. You'd always be leaning over the fenders and it wouldn't be long before scratches are all over them. I did a tilt front end on my corvette and I love it. But I don't want to mess with all that on this truck seeing how the fenders are already painted.

Dieselwrencher 05-23-2012 02:16 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
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Originally Posted by mcbassin (Post 5395490)
New progress Ryan?

Nothing more than dust accumulating on it. :lol: This morning I replaced the intake manifold gaskets on the 350 for my wife's suburban. I've got so much to do I farmed the engine swap out to my little cousin.

72BlckButy 05-23-2012 02:20 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Nice progress Ryan.

Dieselwrencher 05-23-2012 02:24 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
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Originally Posted by 72BlckButy (Post 5396427)
Nice progress Ryan.

Thanks Nate.


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