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Ronnie, you ready for more surprises?

First I put a few more braces for support just in case. That way if it does want to sag down it won't. I did it on all four corners.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...b/DSC03164.jpg

Rt A pillar cut out, almost. It took a while to see how they put everything together. I need to cut the kick panel higher, but don't want to until I get the patch panels.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...b/DSC03144.jpg

Here it as of now.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...b/DSC03146.jpg

I didn't realize that they replaced this much of the floor. My question is do you want to remove everything they did and start over? I will let you make that call.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...b/DSC03145.jpg

You can see the burn thru marks in this pic and the double wall on the kick. Maybe the patch panel will enable me to cut all of this out.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...b/DSC03147.jpg

The rear cab support has some pin holes in it.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...b/DSC03148.jpg

They wiped right over rust. Gotta love that. It was flaking off in spots when I was grinding.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...b/DSC03153.jpg

I figured I would see where the patches stopped on the lt side.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...b/DSC03154.jpg

You didn't know you had a double walled floor did you. I left it that way for now. Because the patches I listed for you will not repair this.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...b/DSC03156.jpg

Lt A post

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...b/DSC03161.jpg

More pics coming in a few minutes...............

Re: 198Plus build
 

I quoted him 20. I asked Shannon how much time we had in his so far and guess 30-40 hrs. 20 hours really isn't enough time. Especially now that I have discovered more that is wrong.

Continued from before:

Left cab corner

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...b/DSC03158.jpg

Here are some referrence pics for later

This is where I measured from.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...b/DSC03140.jpg

Front of inner rocker straight down from the rain rail at the top of the A post

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...b/DSC03138.jpg

Top of rain rail to bottom of the rear inner rocker. Both measurements are the same side to side.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...b/DSC03139.jpg

Rear brace I put in to prevent any height changes.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...b/DSC03165.jpg

3.0 hrs today.

Re: 198Plus build
 

Allan your brave, but that's what you do for a living. Nice work so far.

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Hell there's not much more you can find.........There's nothing left of the cab :lol:

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It might have been cheaper to find another parts truck, or cab. We're lucky here in California. Not too many rust buckets out here.

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Can you body wax the rust on the inside of the braces that you can't get to or shoot POR up in there?

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My friend that owns a body shop for 35 years said he uses diesel fuel to spray the rust where he can't get to.

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Your right, but since my grandfather bought it new and left it to my dad and then my Dad left it to me...........I'm just sayin ;)

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In that case, what ever it takes. I don't think Allan will hurt you much..:lol:

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Here is the left floor that has been replaced prior.

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:smoke: I see Alan has resorted to the Boring Electron Microscope for the last shot.

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Yeah looks like it needs rings. :haha:

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I'm finished with my new shop logo.......I think..... :fb:

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...apes1/Like.jpg

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The black box and then the black oval behind the text does not seem right. Does it not stand out enough without them? Maybe if they were both the same shape? Overall I like the concept & colors.

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Looks saweet!! You gonna put that logo on the door of your old truck when it gets done?

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Now that I look at it, you're right........Changes in the works ;)

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Thanks Allan.........Only thing going on my doors will be wax ;)

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Nice shot Alan
As we know,when the support rots out (and/or the floor) the small tube that surrounds the mounting bolt is usually rotted too.
That piece doesn't come with the replacement support nor the floor section.
Can you post up some dimensions on this tube,ie length, diameter and wall thickness,also I assume it's welded to the support?
I have never seen this part in any calalogs
Thanks
T

Re: 198Plus build
 

Looks great. Have a magnet sign made so you can take it off your truck when you don't want it. Just use it when your parked in front of your shop. Should be an attention getter.

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I won't be able to post up any deminsions on the tube. My truck is all back together and I'm not going that far on Ronnie's. It's not welded to the cab support, but is welded to the front/back floor support as seen in the pic. Sorry I couldn't be much help.

More updates coming in just a few minutes...........

Re: 198Plus build
 

I advised Ronnie that we should go ahead and cut out the metal that had already been replaced. That was a good idea. Because the drivers side wasn't welded to the cab support.

Here it the driver side patch that was removed. Notice the spot welds, not good.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...b/DSC03190.jpg

Here's the double floor on the drivers side.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...b/DSC03192.jpg

Still something going on on the Left kick panel to fire wall.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...b/DSC03195.jpg

Did some more digging and found this.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...b/DSC03198.jpg

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...b/DSC03196.jpg

The passenger side was welded better.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...b/DSC03187.jpg

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...b/DSC03188.jpg

I believe I got all the patch work out on the passenger side. The sand blaster might reveal something on the pinch weld. It is loaded with filler.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...b/DSC03189.jpg

I ground some of the filler on the A post gutter. I knew there would be issues after seeing it covered up. They need to be drilled off and replaced. I have to look to see if they are available. Both side are the same.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...b/DSC03199.jpg

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...b/DSC03200.jpg


More decisions to be made in the next post...........

Re: 198Plus build
 

Firewall decisions................Need to determine which holes to weld up. Here are some pics for Ronnie to edit and circle which ones he wants filled.

Rt side

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...b/DSC03173.jpg

Lt side

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...b/DSC03172.jpg

What about these extra holes somebody added?

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...b/DSC03203.jpg

I know the clutch rod goes thru one of these but what is the other? Maybe the speedometer cable goes in the smaller one.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...b/DSC03202.jpg

Here are some of my recommendations. Double check me Ronnie.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...b/DSC03201.jpg

Referrence pics of mine.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...b/DSC03178.jpg

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...b/DSC03177.jpg

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...b/DSC03176.jpg

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...b/DSC03175.jpg

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Well it's got to get better :lol:

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Ronnie wanted the tar removed from the bottom of the cab. It's a good idea to remove this stuff before the blaster. The blaster won't remove it.

Before

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...b/DSC03204.jpg

Driver side after

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...b/DSC03207.jpg

Passenger side had more on it.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...b/DSC03206.jpg

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Firewall on your truck rocks.:metal:

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Thank you Alan
I have my floor piece and support so shouldn't be too hard to get the right length.
as for wall thickness I'll just go overkill, 1"x .125w
T

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Not to change this from a build thread to a graphic design thread, but I would suggest doing your logo in a vector based program in greyscale ( black & white tv ish) a program like illustrator or corel are probably the most commonly used. The reason for a vector image is they can be scaled up or down indefinatly without messing up clearity of the picture. Also wikth using no colors you can save money on print and get a clearer idea of how clean it is, readability and brand recognition are key to good logos. I know you won't put a b&w sign on the side of a building or anything but you can always have color added to a different image file. Also if you have a very well designed simple logo in b&w adding color is easy, I can't think of the universal inks at the moment, I want to say pms but it could be that time of the month around here is why that's what I believe it is. I don't mean to sound like your logo isn't good or anything just helping before you "waste" time on something that can't really be used easily and possibly cost more time and money. Ok back to truck building, good luck with the new business adveture and getting your truck going

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Thanks Dave!!

:thumbs:

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Parts on the way Alan ;) Since there's nothing going on with my build thought I would share some pic's of my shops next few projects.

Our first total repaint.......More pic's when finished
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...DSC_0609-1.jpg

Total restoration starting soon.
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...1/DSC_0594.jpg

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...1/DSC_0590.jpg

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...1/DSC_0592.jpg

New shop bike :lol:

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...1/DSC_0599.jpg

My office if I ever get done

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...1/DSC_0603.jpg

Re: 198Plus build
 

to the guys asking why you have alan do yours , when you own a body shop, I understand....I know quite a few body shop owners(including alan!:lol:), that have to put thier projects on a back burner, to cater to thier customers...
smart thing having someone else get yours done!

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How true!!

Ronnie, I can't find any new gutters for the A post. They might be available somewhere, but I can't find them. I will try to replicate them. Don't worry I'm not gonna charge you for the labor to figure out how to make them. ;) If they turn out nice I will step up my membership here and sell them to others that need them.

Did you get your estimating system in yet? If not, you need at least a set of crash books to give you an idea of what to charge. Are any of those insurance jobs?

That restoration will need more than one quarter panel. :haha:

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No kidding. I don't have the time either, but I will NEVER have anybody else do something I can do my self. :hh:

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While I agree in principle, I have had people come detail my car while I was working and selling parts....made 400 extra (plus my normal job salary)and paid him 125 in the same amount of time :chevy: He washed the truck and polished the aluminum rims, grille and molding, an extra set of billet wheels, and then applied a 6 month wax to the truck...and took about 5 hours doing it.

I can do it and have in the past years ago, but I would have had to have taken a half day off work and bought the materials and borrowed or bought the buffers, pads, etc...

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Here is my attempt at the A post gutters.

http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/t...b/DSC03223.jpg

http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/t...b/DSC03227.jpg

http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/t...b/DSC03221.jpg

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Looks good to me......is that 18 ga?

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Looks good Alan...............Are you going to use bubble gum to stick it on like the other shops. :lol:

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Hey Alan! didn't you tell me that it was Elmer's glue that worked the best? :haha:

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Maybe gorilla snot/boogers?:lol::uhmk:

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I'm in no hurry to have anybody to do my stuff. I'm semi retarded, I mean retired. :lol: