Re: Project Goldilocks, '66 C10 SWB BBW Build
Might fit better with a bell crank set up. Are you planning on running stock gauges?
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Killer build! I used to Live in Sumter SC. I used to work with Mr Scrapes, he did most of the bags and hydro setups around there. Not sure if he's still around, I haven't been back there for almost 10 years...
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Rotors came in today. I weighed everything except the pads and caliper brackets (don't have those yet) to compare to the old disc conversion stuff. Wasn't expecting the bigger brakes to be lighter, but they'll shave about five pounds off each side. Not much overall, but it's all unsprung weight so it makes a bigger difference.
12" Disc Conversion Parts:
65 Pounds, 3.7 oz each side. New parts:
60 pounds, 5.8 oz http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...08AF7250D0.jpg |
Re: Project Goldilocks, '66 C10 SWB BBW Build
Got to work on 'Locks a little yesterday. Got the rack and pinion bolted in and set the frame rails on 4x4" tubing. I want that to be the normal ride height, maybe slightly more if it scrapes too much. The lowest point on my '64 VW is 2.75 and it rarely bottoms out so I think 4" will be plenty.
http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...42085499_n.jpg Mocked up the lower bag mount height with another 4x4" block, which leave the bag at 4.75". Is that compressed too much? The max compressed height is 2.8" aired out, but I can't find info on the minimum bag height at ride height. http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...94191527_n.jpg Also built a stand to work on the caliper brackets. It looks like one of the bolt holes in the spindle will line up already, and I'll only have to make a bracket for the bottom holes. http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...80435192_n.jpg I had to plug a leak in my sister's TBSS tire so while it was off I checked to see how well 20's with a decent size sidewall would fit... way too tall. I don't want rubber band sidewalls so it looks like I'll be doing 18's. http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...40367768_n.jpg And speaking of wheels, I ran across this picture of CCW classics in the perfect color- brushed translucent bronze. They're three pieced forged so they're light and they're relatively inexpensive compared to most other three piece forged wheels. Can be built in just about any size/offset and they can make sure that they'll clear the calipers without using spacers. http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...49894461_n.jpg |
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How much air pressure will you be needing to maintain the 4.75" height? Will it be too soft, too hard? If you take a corner aggressively will you suffer from body roll? Depending on the driving situation, weight in the truck, freeway, in town, track, winding scenic road out in the country, that usually plays a big part in desired bag pressure. May have to adjust bag height to accomplish desired comfort in ride quality. I have this info bookmarked from 67c10rustbucket: Info I refer back to now and again. Quote:
I've read a few articles. Info you probably already know. http://www.ridetech.com/info/pressur...eight-control/ http://www.dakotadigital.com/index.c...rod/prd131.htm http://toplinehb.com/auto-repair/hig...ension-setups/ Not sure if any of this will help. Sure do have a truck load of cool stuff going on. Keep it up cause your build info is really helpful on my build. |
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I'm no good for helping with the technical info, but I just wanted to say it's good to see you getting back on it. :)
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Everything I have read about ride height and air bags, is the bag should be set at a height that is in the middle of the stoke fo the bag.
If the bag has a 2.5" compressed height and the max extended height is 12", then the bag at ride height should be close to 8.375". For a lot of the 2600# bags on the market that I have looked at, the ride height is between 6.5"-7.5". |
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The mounts I made today will put it right around 6.75". |
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Chopped the crossmember today to raise the bag mount area. I need to get some plate and 10" pipe to box the area in. At this point I've realized I would have been better off to buy a No Limit WideRide crossmember...
2" cut out. http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...46003060_n.jpg http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...09644068_n.jpg http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...69999318_n.jpg 7" tall now. That'll shrink a little once I plate the mounting pad but it's a major improvement! http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...41158511_n.jpg |
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Very nice work as always.
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Got an update from Jason on the speedo lens today!
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lens looks great, always top notch detail
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No real updates other than I've been buying parts. Bought a set of Porterbuilt 1" forward and 1" narrowed A-arms this week. Haven't had time to build my own and these will do everything I was wanting to do except for having a little extra drop at the bag mount for bag spacers. Maybe raising the upper mount will create enough room that I can still shim the bag if needed.
Been picking up NOS parts when I can find them at reasonable prices- not into dealing with aftermarket junk if I don't have to! So far found a pair of '66 Fawn armrests, interior mirror mount, and an anodized grill. Another find was a pair of NOS offset stud mirror heads. They're not GM but are identical. I also bought a pair of NOS chrome bumper guards that had a fair amount of shelf wear but I couldn't bring myself to use them for what I have in mind... So instead I bought a pair of used guards to cut up. Wanting to shorten them a few inches to take some of their bulk away, always thought that they just looked to tall to fit the proportions of our trucks. http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...D141BABE74.jpg http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...CC8DF644AC.jpg http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...895CCD508B.jpg http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...21A61.png.jpeg http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...E2BFF.png.jpeg http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...1C996DA511.jpg |
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Great Score on all the parts!!!!
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That's some great finds.
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It's good to see you back at it. That's a nice group of parts you've accumulated. I don't even want you to tell me what you paid for that grill. If it was a real good deal I'll feel terrible that you got it and I didn't and if you paid a lot, then I'll be discouraged about ever finding one I can afford. It is a killer find, though. Let's get back to some of that quality work you put out. :metal:
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Thanks dudes. Been wanting to get back on it, just been busy with everything else lately. The VW broke a valve spring so it's out for repairs and upgrades (can't leave anything alone!). Hoping for another 30-40 hp with a cam and heads swap. It should be back together in a few weeks. Was going to autocross it at Goodguys Charlotte this weekend if this hadn't happened.
The PB arms should be here Monday. I'll get templates to plate the upper bag mounts and have a fab shop bend the filler plates next week. Should have the front rolling again soon. Pdxhaull, the grill was a good deal- I happened to be on Ebay at just the right time. Matching bezels will be impossible to find though. |
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Porterbuilt arms came today so I did a quick test fit.
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did you weigh the old verses the new
I always thought with the bumper guards being tall was for adding a grill bar between them, look forward to seeing you shorten them up. |
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Taller upper ball joints from QA1 came today. I'll get those bolted in and the correct lower ball joints pressed in next week. I talked with a local machine shop about designing and machining a set of caliper brackets; he's interested so I'll drop off the parts with him this week. Final mock up should be soon! Then on to the rear suspension.
Still haven't decided on an axle. It'll need to be fully floating to prevent pad knock back since the calipers are fixed. I'd like to build a Trailblazer EXT axle since the center section is aluminum. With chromoly axle tube pressed in they're roughly 50 pounds lighter than a 9" or 12 bolt. http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...D0C84FD0A6.jpg |
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