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swamp rat 06-28-2016 05:08 PM

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Getting closer, the cab corner has a little more work than is shown in the picture, your still looking at high build primer, have to do a touch up sand then it should be ready for the final 2K cover..


Body guys i have a question:
I still have to figure out exactly how i'm going to make the rocker/cab corner join look symmetrical, i'm guessing feed some bondo in on the rocker side being as the rocker was not straight, i thought about just filling it with bondo but i know the factory seam should be there. Have concidered filling with seam sealer but not sure if that's the best way.

Vic1947 06-28-2016 05:51 PM

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...I still have to figure out exactly how i'm going to make the rocker/cab corner join look symmetrical, i'm guessing feed some bondo in on the rocker side being as the rocker was not straight, i thought about just filling it with bondo but i know the factory seam should be there. Have concidered filling with seam sealer but not sure if that's the best way.

Completely filling it with bondo or seam sealer will eventually cause the area to crack when the body flexes. Best way to join the rocker to the corner is by welding and it's a bit late for that. Faced with this, I'd probably opt for a bondo repair. Couple of ways to go about it.

1. You can lay a piece of string or wire in the gap, draw it snug and tape it top and bottom. Overfill the gap with bondo and wait a little bit until the bondo has barely started to set and is still fairly wet. Hold one end of the string/wire and gently pull the other to you. This will create a pretty uniform, tight gap. Let the filler set up the rest of the way and use a hacksaw blade with sandpaper folded around it to work the gap to the width you want.

2. Dispense with the string trick and fill the gap with bondo, then use a hacksaw blade after the filler sets up to create the gap you want. Then fold over your sandpaper and work it smooth. This requires a bit more finesse because you want the gap right next to the cab corner and controlling the saw blade can be tricky.

swamp rat 06-30-2016 05:34 PM

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Well, if not one thing its another, started popping the main breaker on the lower service of my split buss bars when i turned on the portable AC units, this is where i added the 220 service for the compressor and welder, but when the main pops the welder and compressor are turned off. Did a test with the welder and compressor breakers turned off and the problem went away, the air units worked fine, and i added more loads via a toaster oven and microwave, celing fan, tv, and computer and everything was fine. Sigh, now i need to figure out which of the two is the culpret...

Got my inner fenders back today, pic later, they look sweet!

swamp rat 07-07-2016 07:50 PM

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Here's a couple pics of the powder coat inner fenders. I have been plugging away on the truck but it does not look much different, been finalizing the rear cab corner and inner kick panel, have the welds seam sealed now. Need a warmer day to apply the final coat of 2K.

swamp rat 07-07-2016 07:51 PM

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swamp rat 07-07-2016 07:54 PM

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Dang that first photo is a killer LOL! Posted from my phone....

NONHOG 07-08-2016 12:48 AM

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Get the electrical figured out?

swamp rat 07-08-2016 11:41 AM

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Get the electrical figured out?

The only real fix is to upgrade my electrical panel which is about $2000, that was a quote from an electrical company i talked to about the issue. I had a friend whom i work with who is one of the electricians for my building, he also said its a $2000 job without knowing i already had a quote from a different company.

I have whats called a split panel where all the upper 220V is always hot, the lower portion is for the 120V is controlled by a main breaker, You may recall that the 220V circuits for the compressor and welder were added to this lower section which maxed out the service.

The old main breaker is 50A, my electrician buddy said that between the panel and the 4 AWG wires coming off of the 50A main that i'm safe to use a 60 amp main breaker so i had him swap that out for me, it remains to be seen if this will help with the main tripping, but i'm hoping that the fact that the main was tripping even with the power off to the welder and compressor was that the main was as old as the house and just needed to be replaced. I have not had time to fire up my air conditioners to run a test.

mcbassin 07-08-2016 04:06 PM

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Looking good Mike! Nice progress on the car and door repairs.

swamp rat 07-09-2016 12:36 AM

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Looking good Mike! Nice progress on the car and door repairs.

Thanks Mike! I know its kinda slow going but it seems every time i attempt a repair to a different area its another learning curve, definitely have made a couple mistakes along the way but that's how ya learn. If i could just go home after work and spend another hour or two on the rat it would progress quicker.. I'd be willing to use lamps and work on it but i'm sure my neighbors would protest. :)

7dee2 07-09-2016 09:17 AM

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The wheel tubs look great Mike, suckie about your power situation man.

swamp rat 07-12-2016 11:05 PM

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Well, I have the new main installed, it hasn't been hot enough to need the portable air conditioners tho, going to go with it for now.

Cab: Still doing a little as time permits, finished priming the under side of the rear cab support and the seam sealer is all done now top and bottom, i still want to look it over close to see if i missed any seam sealer before i do a final prime coat on the bottom, chances are i may have.Its been fairly cold and wet for a while so i have been holding off on the final prime coat and color coat on the inside of the cab.

Driver door: I have filled about 5 small divots on the inner cab door, will sand tonight, then I'll put together my new foldable body part paint stand that came in today. Hope to get the inside lower of the door seam sealed and primed tonight too because my wife has been back visiting with family so i can work in the garage at night, i have also been taking care of her end of the house stuff as well.

So i sat down the other day with my welder and did some more testing on a heavy piece of angle to figure out my porosity issue with my spots, I added more gas but withing the recommendation of Miller, nope! played with the feed and heat settings, no dice! Checked my heavy duty extension cord, still in great shape... Took a look at the pinch roller, still looked good but decided to play with the spring tension adjuster, there is no recommended settings on the inside of the welder lid but i backed off the spring tension and bam! welds like a champ now... live and learn.

Now for the big one, I went back to see the DR about my shoulder yesterday, i tore it up last april, he is now recommending surgery, they are putting in for insurance authorization, once that is done it go's to scheduling and they figure out a good date for me, once that is established i have to call and have FMLA paperwork faxed to my DR's offfice to be completed, then returned to FMLA for final approval away from work. He said i would be out of work for 3 months, but i may be able to return sooner on light duty if the company can place me somewhere, I'm ok if they cant do the light duty tho. but it will put a big damper on my truck for a bit once i have this thing fixed, i'm tired of the aching and nerve spikes ect. The good news is between insurance and my savings i can deal with this financially.

swamp rat 07-13-2016 04:59 PM

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Drivers door is seam sealed and in the booth waiting for a coat of K2 on the bottom, sitting on my new painting stand, nice and solid, real happy with it. Yea i could hafe smoothed the bottom of the door out with bondo but this is not a show truck. :)

Anybody know what shade of white is on the mirrors and front fender? I admit i'm thinking about a semi gloss or eggshell black on the mirrors and front bumper to match my rear bumper and also adding a couple driving lamp ports built into the front bumper. But i also have a very good condition chrome front bumper hanging from the ceiling, what to do......

swamp rat 07-15-2016 05:01 AM

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Well just barely had enough time to sand, wipe down, and clean with wax and grease remover, mixed up some color and started spraying, cleaned up and off to work..

The door has a contamination problem but not sure where it came from, a big blob of translucent black crap dropped out of the gun when i was spraying, possibly i had some traces of primer and lacquer thinner in the threads of the paint cup lid and it worked its way out?? I couldn't find anything obvious, plus i got a few fish eyes close to it as well.. Well i know its not gonna be a show truck but i may sand the door in that area and the fish eyes and try again later, or give in and have the inner doors repainted when i have someone else do the door jams and outer paint.. I need to keep in mind right now its about preservation.

Don't look at my break pedal, yea i started to loose my balance while reaching in and spraying the kick panel.

swamp rat 07-16-2016 09:07 PM

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Yesterday i wiped the paint off the break pedal, LOL! Whatever dripped from my paint gun on to the door dried solid so right now its the least of my worries. I removed the rest of the door seal on the driver side and experimented with what to use to remove the glue residue, i came to the conclusion that Goof Off was the best thing in my garage, i still have a little more to remove but didn't have time to work on it today, ran some errands (paint store and Pet store) and went to work.

GASoline71 07-17-2016 10:04 AM

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The paint is looking good Mike! I dig that color too!

Did you have to cut the outer rockers to get them to fit right? I have made one cut in the front of the rocker to get it to go flush against the new lower door pillar I welded on. But it looks like I will have to make another couple relief cuts in the front and rear to get it to line up correctly and still line up with the lower part of the inner rocker (outer cab floor)

Gary

Zane M 07-17-2016 11:31 AM

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Love the color!

swamp rat 07-17-2016 02:00 PM

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The paint is looking good Mike! I dig that color too!

Did you have to cut the outer rockers to get them to fit right? I have made one cut in the front of the rocker to get it to go flush against the new lower door pillar I welded on. But it looks like I will have to make another couple relief cuts in the front and rear to get it to line up correctly and still line up with the lower part of the inner rocker (outer cab floor)

Gary

Yea i had to do a pie slice on the front of the rocker, first i cut it and and then stretched the flange that holds the weather strip a bit with a hammer, then fab and weld in the pie section, and then the area in front of the pie slice i had to get a block of wood and persuade it so it laied a little bit better into that corner. If you look back a few pages you can see where i did it. This thread talks about the problem, read it all and Note the second to last post, he's a vendor here on the forum.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=711884

Also , the rear of the outer rocker lined up fine to the cab but the outer portion where if curves down to the bottom was not flush with the cab corner, rather than try and pie slice that i opted to build it up with some bondo.

swamp rat 07-17-2016 02:06 PM

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Love the color!

Thanks, its the stock Medium Green, its funny how depending the light from the booth or outside makes it change all the time. plus if you get the ratios different for the activator and reducer it changes how it looks too, its definitely not an exact match to the stock color but for what i'm doing its close enough. I'm just painting inconspicuous areas so its not too important that it be perfect, but i'm working on getting better every time.. Learning curve...

swamp rat 07-17-2016 05:30 PM

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Got the rest of the adhesive off the opening, and was about to put the door back on then i realized something, i bought a rebuilt steering column and right now everything is easy access... Debating, go ahead and install that tomorrow before i put the door back on? the rag joint was replaced about ?5? years ago so its probably fine, not sure what all i need to do as far as the connections on the shaft but it looks to be about a 6-8 bolt job otherwise... Not sure if I'll end up with a headache installing the shift lever or turn signal lever

GASoline71 07-18-2016 10:02 AM

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Yea i had to do a pie slice on the front of the rocker, first i cut it and and then stretched the flange that holds the weather strip a bit with a hammer, then fab and weld in the pie section, and then the area in front of the pie slice i had to get a block of wood and persuade it so it laied a little bit better into that corner. If you look back a few pages you can see where i did it. This thread talks about the problem, read it all and Note the second to last post, he's a vendor here on the forum.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=711884

Also , the rear of the outer rocker lined up fine to the cab but the outer portion where if curves down to the bottom was not flush with the cab corner, rather than try and pie slice that i opted to build it up with some bondo.

Thanks Mike... I am going to have to do the exact same thing on mine. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't crazy.

Gary

7dee2 07-19-2016 09:02 AM

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Looks good Mike, very nice column! If it was me I would install it now that most everything is out of the way. Only other concern would overspray from additional paint work?

swamp rat 07-20-2016 04:21 PM

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I worked again last weekend and its been a busy week.. Not much accomplished again, would like to get this column installed but have a potential problem?

I'm hoping someone can confirm this question, MY original non tilt automatic column has a bracket of sorts sticking out just above the shift lever where the shift linkage is attached, i just realized the rebuilt tilt column does not have this plate, i emailed the guy that rebuilt it and he said not to worry it will be fine and go ahead and swap them out, I would like to know what function this plate serves? is it necessary? I have a TH350. Thanks!

7dee2 07-20-2016 09:09 PM

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Here is a link were they talk about the function of the selector plate. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=491049 Also it's mentioned in the AIM on pg 400.

swamp rat 07-21-2016 03:08 AM

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Here is a link were they talk about the function of the selector plate. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=491049 Also it's mentioned in the AIM on pg 400.

It does appear my selector is a little out of wack looking at that picture. I appreciate your link and the picture from the assy manual too.

I Pm'ed with the guy a few times and he confirmed that on the tilts the selector plate is internal, i guess tomorrow i can confirm that by applying a little persuasion and see what happens.

Shoulder surgery is the 17th, i got to get this side wrapped up soon.

swamp rat 07-21-2016 02:50 PM

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Here is a link were they talk about the function of the selector plate. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=491049 Also it's mentioned in the AIM on pg 400.

So I had bumped the shift lever and it was not in park, I've stock pointer is lined up nicely and in the correct position and the lever is in the park position on the detent plate.

The guy says the new rebuilt tilt column has this detent built inside instead of being external, but I'm not sure I'm feeling any detent, it kinda hits a sticky point about right in between park and reverse so I hope that's it.

swamp rat 07-21-2016 04:50 PM

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No guts no glory i guess....
Got the column out but outta time for today. I had to fight that coupling a little but my rubber hammer didn't cut it so i got my brass hammer and that had enough smack to get it off the shaft.

swamp rat 07-25-2016 04:07 AM

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Got the tilt column installed the greasable joint felt nice and tight so I prepped and painted the colapsable shaft black and installed. but I need to buy the selector lever for it, I will have to install the steering wheel and levers another day, I bought a really nice black original steering wheel with no cracks about 2-3 years ago that will be installed eventually. Not sure what i'm going to do with the stock green non tilt and green steering wheel yet, but i still have the 67 waiting in the wings so maybe if i decide to convert to a automatic down the road i'll use it there? But the bearings in it are shot.

Got the door back on but i think it needs to go forward a little after setting the fender in place, still doing a little fitting of the door and fender but its close..

Vic1947 07-25-2016 10:32 AM

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Coming together nicely, Mike! The tilt column makes a big difference in these trucks. Glad someone was able to get you some good info on the selector plate.

swamp rat 07-25-2016 02:49 PM

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Coming together nicely, Mike! The tilt column makes a big difference in these trucks. Glad someone was able to get you some good info on the selector plate.

Thanks Vic, slow but sometimes steady LOL!

I came to the conclusion that when its time for paint I'll have whoever i hire paint the jambs, doors and exterior with a 2 stage so i probably shouldn't have bothered with the single stage color on the door and lower jamb, but i just want it protected for now.

Think I'll make a trip to Olympia tomorrow? to get the shift selector and a couple more small items.

70stroker 07-25-2016 09:42 PM

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Truck is looking great man. Do you like the column? Where did you get it? Ive been then thinking about going to a tilt.

swamp rat 07-25-2016 11:31 PM

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Truck is looking great man. Do you like the column? Where did you get it? Ive been then thinking about going to a tilt.

I bought it here in the forum from one of the members, Haven't driven the truck with it yet but I'm sure i won't hate it. If ya want to look around sometimes they come up for sale on the parts for sale board, or even a local junk yard, i know a guy locally who sometimes has a one for sale.

swamp rat 07-28-2016 08:46 PM

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Update: my power situation seems to have stabilized with the new breaker, we have our air conditioner running and I used my welder And compressor today too :)

Pulled the fender to make a few more adjustments to the door and reinstalled the fender.

One of my door problems was the window frame was not flat across the top and the center of the frame was contacting the door both before and after the rust repair, I finally decided to address the issue by Making a portable straightening press, a bit crude but strong enough to slowly work the frame flat, I made the contact points moveable so I could adjust as necessary, it took a bit of pressure but after 4 small adjustments I got it close enough.

Made a parts run to Frank's pickmup the other day for a new light switch, shift selector, knob, sill plates, some factory style bolts, vent seals, and he had a real sweet overflow bottle system I picked up as well.

swamp rat 07-28-2016 08:47 PM

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More pic's sent from my cell so i can only attach one at a time.

Before the straightening.

swamp rat 07-28-2016 08:49 PM

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Hard to tell but it clears now and i didn't have any problems with bowing in or out, and nothing broke, window still go's up fine.

swamp rat 07-28-2016 08:53 PM

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Here's the parts, excuse the mess, parts on lower part of table. Overflow bottle comes with a mount bracket and coolant hose and proper vented lid.

swamp rat 07-28-2016 08:56 PM

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Can someone remind me where this bolt with thick washer came from? Maybe the fender well??

swamp rat 07-28-2016 08:58 PM

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Inner fender next to dirty firewall, maybe I better wash and wax pretty quick. :)

mcbassin 07-29-2016 08:11 AM

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Can someone remind me where this bolt with thick washer came from? Maybe the fender well??

Correct me if I'm wrong, I believe this bolt is used to go through the square hole on the rear of your inner fenders. There should be two of them.

swamp rat 07-29-2016 12:32 PM

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Correct me if I'm wrong, I believe this bolt is used to go through the square hole on the rear of your inner fenders. There should be two of them.

Awesome! Thank you!


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