Re: Pristine engine bay in '66 Chevy C10 with 327 & factory A/C
 

They look a lot closer outside.

http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...CB85623FB5.jpg

Re: Pristine engine bay in '66 Chevy C10 with 327 & factory A/C
 

Just got my 283 WE coded motor back from the rebuilders and getting ready to prime and paint, I have over 3 hours into restoring the stinking AC oil breather cap. I think I am crazy but no point cutting corners now.

Re: Pristine engine bay in '66 Chevy C10 with 327 & factory A/C
 

I dont think your crazy !! Cant wait to see it. What exactly are you building ?

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I am building a 65 BBW Custom Cab Short wide with PS, PB , auto and factory air and it will be bone stock right down to the 2 barrel and hub caps.

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LT1- are you taking lots of pics and notes as you go so you can put together a build thread at some point? I'm thinking that the forum has matured some recently and appreciation for this kind of project is greater than in the past. I mean, just look at this one thread and all the talk about the exact shade of green for a 327 block.
I understand it's not everybody's style to document their every move with a camera, but a lot of us are truly interested.
- yeah, I know, I should talk...' never done a comprehensive thread on my survivors for ya'll either. :o

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I am bad for pictures so the answer is no. I usually get to doing something and before I know it I am putting it back together. I will try to slow down and take more but I have one speed and it is all out.

Re: Pristine engine bay in '66 Chevy C10 with 327 & factory A/C
 

Here's a green 292 on ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/65-Ch...#ht_500wt_1022

Re: Pristine engine bay in '66 Chevy C10 with 327 & factory A/C
 

For all of the doubters on a grey 327 engine here's a pic. I can't see if this one has, but mine had the double alt adj strap on it.

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Well I'm about a month from using either Ford Green or the Alpine green but here is what my 66 327 engine had under the crank pulley. I am leaning toward the Ford engine color now.

I threw in the head markings which probably does indicate "YR" markings since this truck was originally a 327 with powerglide set up.

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60-66, have you had a chance to compare the spray out card to your original paint?
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Yes and Thank you very much for taking the time to do the test panel. It is my opinion that the NOS can of paint is very close to or dead on to the 1963 292 Valve cover. I took this cover off today and was quite surprised how nice the paint still is. This 1963 has exactly 30,000 one owner miles on it and is the same one I posted earlier. I took the cover off and used grease and wax remover and then some very fine 3M polishing compound to the rear portion on the firewall end of the cover. Here's the three items in this picture I used in the comparison pictures still to come.
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...S/IMG_6157.jpg

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http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...S/IMG_6160.jpg
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Re: Pristine engine bay in '66 Chevy C10 with 327 & factory A/C
 

This next set of pictures has the only good sample I could find of a true 1966 327 green. Its a spark plug wire bracket from a 66 327 Carryall. The paint still shines and is decent but is darker than the 63 292 valve cover and test panel. I then compared the test panel to the 66 292 in the K20 in my avatar truck . That 292 matches closer to the bracket or is darker like the bracket. Whish I could have compared "Alpine" green to all of this but I think TheAstronaut posted this comparison earlier in this thread. I would also like to mention, if any of you are using an old monitor to view these pictures, go look on a new one from a neighbor or someone as the color difference and lighting is quite different. I recently upgraded and it does make a big difference.
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...S/IMG_6166.jpg
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...S/IMG_6165.jpg
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Re: Pristine engine bay in '66 Chevy C10 with 327 & factory A/C
 

Jon, So what do you recommend? If that paint swatch could be color matched by a paint supplier, maybe we could have a paint formula for it if want to go through the trouble of mixing the paint or buying something close in a spray can. From my monitor it was looking like that Ford color might have been close to your paint can. Mark

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Well again, I think the NOS paint is darker than Alpine but It also looks like 1966 green is darker than the NOS paint. Still need a low mile 1966 327 with a bunch of factory paint left. I'm going to detail the engine compartment on that 66 Carryall I sent pictures of, I'm going with the darker of these colors I posted and having a quart color matched. Spray bomb paint does NOT hold up on an engine like good quality enamel out of a gun. Done the spray bomb thing to many times and if you drive it, its not going to last as long. My 427 convertible lasted about two to three years and was down hill from there.

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Years ago when I was doing 57 and 58 Chevies, DuPont had an epoxy 2 part resin primer in two one gallon cans called Corlar. Mixed 50/50, that material would stick to anything and then I would spray engine color over that. It stood up as well as anything I have ever seen on an engine but it went extinct when the epa took over in the 90's. A good cleaning and washing of of the cast metal with thinner and two light coats of tinted variprime at room temperature is what I do now. Of course the primer will change the shade of the paint color just as the test panels show. And those factory painted engines had no primers and probably very little cleanliness when they had color sprayed on them. Let me know what you come up with as I am about 2 months from engine paint. Thanks.

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Making a little progress on mine. You guys think I should paint the valve cover hold down screw and washers grey or leave them zinc.
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Thanks for posting those pics 60-66! Looks like a very close match to the 292 cover. If needed, the paint could be tinted to an exact match- that was the closest matching modern code available. I do not know the code- it's stored in the paint shop's computer. I'll find out the code when I buy the paint for my own engine and post it here.

When I paint my engine I will spray a light coat of PPG DPLF epoxy, thinned 10%. It stays "open" for a week so it can be top coated without the need for sanding. For paint I'll use PPG Omni, either enamel or urethane with hardener. I think the combo of the epoxy biting into the metal, then the chemical adhesion between the epoxy and paint will be hard to beat. Using primer and paint with hardener is the only way to go, gas and oil won't affect it. Much better gloss and coverage too.

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Sweet ! I like the zink as a detail but they were painted over grey.If you ever need to take the screws out you will mess up the paint so I would leave them for now anyway.

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I guess I never did ask this but you may have just answered, is this paint card you did the actual paint from the can I sent or ? Im still thinking more blue tint to get it to match that bracket or something to darken it slightly.

Mark, Astronaut makes a great point that I left out, the hardner, it does make the difference.......this is why I dont paint, leave it to the pros, you get what you pay for........

Re: Pristine engine bay in '66 Chevy C10 with 327 & factory A/C
 

I'm with 60-66, I like the added detail of the zinc. I did the 292 in the blue '65 that way, everything was painted separately.

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The paint on the test card was straight from your NOS can after shaking to mix it fully. I didn't add hardener, that's why it's wrinkled up- enamel takes forever to dry. Tinting it is possible to get it to match closer.

I primed/painted the engine block on my daily driver VW with DPLF and urethane single stage with hardener and 10k miles later it still looks like I just sprayed it.

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I've been encouraged to add some pics to this thread. Just last week I pulled the cab off my 1965 C10 Step. It's unmolested and I am the 3rd owner. It has 88K miles and I am convinced that the drivetrain has never been touched.

These photos show what I found on the bellhousing after I removed years of grease and dirt with Dawn dish detergent.

These were taken with a flash but I will get more photos this weekend in the sunlight to show the color better.

Most of the factory paint is gone from the 230ci engine.

The truck was built in Baltimore and has spent the last 45 years here in SC.

BEFORE

http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/t...ps1f34ae41.jpg

AFTER

http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/t...ps453b4b59.jpg

http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/t...ps5b2b2de8.jpg

http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/t...ps2a6fca71.jpg

http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/t...ps3a65b25b.jpg

http://i618.photobucket.com/albums/t...ps8a01ebba.jpg

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Re: Pristine engine bay in '66 Chevy C10 with 327 & factory A/C
 

That's really a great example of bellhousing overspray there Lugnutz65. Thank you for the efforts !!

Re: Pristine engine bay in '66 Chevy C10 with 327 & factory A/C
 

Heres some more assembly line photos from 1959.
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...ml%3B600%3B326

Re: Pristine engine bay in '66 Chevy C10 with 327 & factory A/C
 

Just to throw some more fuel on this fire....

Here's my all-original 34k mile '66 Custom Camper 327. Any idea what the "T" means? There's one on both sides of the block just above the oil pan.

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There's one tidy looking unrestored motor. Nice color throughout!

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VERY NICE !! Looks like it cleaned up nicely Sodly. Lots of important details still intact. Might have to use your engine as a color match for the green paint card we have. So what did you use then to wipe it down with ?

Jon

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Sodly you have a nice engine bay there! More pics please! Maybe start a thread of just pics of the whole truck. We been hounding oem4me for years to put more pics of his up.

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Sodly, Got to see more pictures too. Awesome original truck and even still has the original Packard date coded spark plug wires too boot! I believe that exhaust picture looks like the original Y pipe used on the 327's too as it looks just like the one I have here with that reducer section under the exhaust manifold. That looks like the turbo 400 option? I have a 66 C20 Custom Camper parts truck just like your configuration out here. Very nice.

Re: Pristine engine bay in '66 Chevy C10 with 327 & factory A/C
 

Thanks for the kind words, guys. It's definitely still a work in progress but I'm pretty happy with how the under-hood stuff is turning out so far. Unfortunately, the rest of the truck isn't this far along yet. I'll post more when it's more presentable. Still got a lot of cleaning and polishing to do. Haven't even started on the exterior yet.

60-66, my miracle elixir of choice is wd40, of all things.

Hotfun, yes, it is the turbo 400 trans. I love you guys pointing out some of the finer details like the plug wires. I'd like to learn as much as possible about these things. Unfortunately, the original exhaust has been modified so I need to correct that eventually. Anybody have a NOS muffler or pipes?

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we like dirty trucks. post up some pics.

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If you have one of the valve covers off for some reason I sure would love to take it over to a K&K Paint Supply there in Lincoln and have them color match it with their computer. They may even be able to take a shot of it on the truck to match it and that would make a lot of people happy on here for a correct PPG formula. My 327 is supposed to be done at the engine rebuilder by the first part of June and I will be wanting to paint it correctly. You pictures have a so much originality details in them. That truck is about the nicest survivors I've seen around here. Mark

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This engine has arrived, thankyou sodly for posting photo of your engine. Looks like the scale has tipped to Ford Green, as the closest available engine paint match for the 292 and 327 engines.

Re: Pristine engine bay in '66 Chevy C10 with 327 & factory A/C
 

Original paint bellhousing on ebay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1963-1964-19...9aa96f&vxp=mtr

Re: Pristine engine bay in '66 Chevy C10 with 327 & factory A/C
 

oh...good eye. I saw it earlier, but just glanced by it. I can see the markings also. Very cool.

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Does anyone have a picture of an original 65 air cleaner , I need sticker ID and location, thanks.

Re: Pristine engine bay in '66 Chevy C10 with 327 & factory A/C
 

Is this what your looking for. This is my 65 C20 Fremont built 327 engine.

Re: Pristine engine bay in '66 Chevy C10 with 327 & factory A/C
 

hello do you have a close up of the decal by chance thanks

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Heres some from the 65 at the Lambrecht auction
http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...UCTION/239.jpg
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