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Alan's Classic 06-21-2009 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by protrash64 (Post 3372259)
Thanx guys. I'm learning still; and I'm not fast at all. The biggest thing is to be clean. I wipe everything with wax and grease remover between every application of plastic or fibreglass filler.

I was going to post up some of the tools I use later. The thing that helped me the most was the 24'' sanding block. I also use a straight edge to check if what Im seeing is what is actually going on. It sounds funny, but your eyeballs will lie sometimes. I still need to get some pointers from Alan about sanding around the wheelwells and the body lines.
I just started using a hammer and dolly and I am really surprised what you can do with it. Just trying to learn things as I go, also.

Guide coat and I also use masking tape if a body line is giving me trouble. Lay the tape on the bodyline edge and sand up to it while using guide coat. When you feel the filler look away. Your eyes will make you hands feel things. Just try it.

daverod 07-07-2009 08:45 PM

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Your eyes can decieve you; don't trust them. Obi-wan Kenobi

Use the force.;) Don't you just love body work. Mine is all taken apart so I can lay it flat to work on. I feel for ya.

protrash64 07-07-2009 10:32 PM

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Surprised to see this up here.......all I can say at this point is bondo-boogers and Ibuprofen.:dig:

shortbed70 07-07-2009 10:45 PM

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I feel your pain on sanding I'm doing the body on my cab now and everyday I make a mess just to clean it up and do it again tomarrow but getting closer. Nice progress.

protrash64 07-07-2009 10:54 PM

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......:lol: thanx s/b70. I'm working on my doors right now. Both are rust free but beat. They both had door check damage and the drivers door had a poorly repaired dent down low. I have the replacement panel to fix the door, but may wait until the rest of the sanding is done.

I'm finding the most difficult place to get straight is the 'indent' below the body line. It has a weird curve and I'm not sure how to approach it. So far I have been using my small Durablock to sand a small line about 1.5'' up. I then sand up to the body line from there. I then go back and sand down the lower portion. It seems to get it straight and doesnt leave any weird contour.

Any body people feel free to lend a hint or two ;).

Alan's Classic 07-07-2009 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by protrash64 (Post 3400399)
I'm finding the most difficult place to get straight is the 'indent' below the body line. It has a weird curve and I'm not sure how to approach it. So far I have been using my small Durablock to sand a small line about 1.5'' up. I then sand up to the body line from there. I then go back and sand down the lower portion. It seems to get it straight and doesnt leave any weird contour.

Any body people feel free to lend a hint or two ;).

I used a 15" piece of 1" PVC pipe and put some sticky paper on it to get that inside curve. Towards the bottom of that curve I used a flat block up on it's edge and sanded at 45 degree angles to the crease. Hope you can get a visual on it.

protrash64 07-07-2009 11:16 PM

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Thanks Alan. It sounds like I'm approaching it correctly. Hmmm, I must be getting the hang of this stuff:lol:!!!!!! I have just been using my regular 'fullsize' blocks for the upper portion and using the edge to get the curve. I rely on the length not to dig any strange grooves along the whole panel.

Alan's Classic 07-07-2009 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by protrash64 (Post 3400451)
Thanks Alan. It sounds like I'm approaching it correctly. Hmmm, I must be getting the hang of this stuff:lol:!!!!!! I have just been using my regular 'fullsize' blocks for the upper portion and using the edge to get the curve. I rely on the length not to dig any strange grooves along the whole panel.

Sounds like the right approach. Have you dusted any black paint on it prior to sanding?

shrunken66stroker 07-07-2009 11:45 PM

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A little guide coat never hurt anything. That 24" block is key to keeping the long straight lines- long and straight. And the close your eyes and feel trick works surprisingly well. Most of the time you'll feel stuff that you'll never be able to see.

protrash64 07-07-2009 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan's Classic (Post 3400467)
Sounds like the right approach. Have you dusted any black paint on it prior to sanding?

Yes. My truck has high build on it right now.....I just sand it lightly with 150 and see what shows up. After I make some corrections I spray it to see how it's looking.

I got scared off the round block after making some work for myself around the wheelwells on the bedsides:lol:.

Alan's Classic 07-08-2009 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by protrash64 (Post 3400509)
Yes. My truck has high build on it right now.....I just sand it lightly with 150 and see what shows up. After I make some corrections I spray it to see how it's looking.

I got scared off the round block after making some work for myself around the wheelwells on the bedsides:lol:.

You have probably already learned this, but move the round block sideways at 45 degree angles then reverse the direction. That rule applies to all blocks. If you move any block in a straight line on it's edge it will dig out divets, even a round block.

MacAttack 07-08-2009 09:56 AM

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Wow guys, this is all voodoo to me. :mm:

I know I’ll have to face it and go through the learning curve soon (because the rust is insatiable), but I’m really not looking forward to it.

First things first though, I need to buy the welding stuff and learn how to do the patch panel thing. My boy took a series of in-depth welding classes and from the look of his various coupons - got it down fairly well.

Thanks again for the detail in your techniques and hard learned tricks.

Mac. :chevy:

protrash64 07-08-2009 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MacAttack (Post 3400918)
Wow guys, this is all voodoo to me. :mm:

I know I’ll have to face it and go through the learning curve soon (because the rust is insatiable), but I’m really not looking forward to it.

First things first though, I need to buy the welding stuff and learn how to do the patch panel thing. My boy took a series of in-depth welding classes and from the look of his various coupons - got it down fairly well.

Thanks again for the detail in your techniques and hard learned tricks.

Mac. :chevy:

You'll get there....plan on being completely p/o'd sometimes staring in disbelief at what you just did!:lol: I learned welding by starting on heavier stuff and getiing the feel of it. Make brackets and fix cracks and so forth. I think the best first welding project is to make a cart for your welder. You'll learn alot and you will be happy not to drag it around. As far as bodywork goes, I'm very slow. The thing that helped me the most was, as shrunken66 mentioned, getting the 24'' block. It really keeps you from digging in one place too much.

I will continue to post up stuff as I go; even if I'm the one with the bruised ego:lol:!!!!

MacAttack 07-08-2009 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by protrash64 (Post 3401169)
You'll get there....plan on being completely p/o'd sometimes staring in disbelief at what you just did!:lol:

Gee - sounds like me in the bathroom the morning after a huge Mexican dinner and way too many Corona's.

Mac. :chevy:

joe231 07-08-2009 01:24 PM

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we all appreciate that! ;)


i meant this...

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Originally Posted by protrash64 (Post 3401169)
I will continue to post up stuff as I go; even if I'm the one with the bruised ego:lol:!!!!

not what mac said :uhmk:

ruffrida2005 07-08-2009 01:27 PM

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I found your thread, I cant believe I didn't see it before. Looks good, you got any pics of your phantom grill?

protrash64 07-08-2009 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by joe231 (Post 3401186)
we all appreciate that! ;)


i meant this...



not what mac said :uhmk:

........I figured as much, unless you meant to say 'lite a match' before that statement:lol:.


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Originally Posted by MacAttack (Post 3401184)
Gee - sounds like me in the bathroom the morning after a huge Mexican dinner and way too many Corona's.

Mac. :chevy:

......sounds like a very shallow 'learning curve' to me.......:haha:

joe231 07-08-2009 02:00 PM

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:haha:

MacAttack 07-08-2009 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by joe231 (Post 3401186)
we all appreciate that! ;)

I knew you would. ;)

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Originally Posted by protrash64 (Post 3401192)
......sounds like a very shallow 'learning curve' to me.......:haha:

Yeah - true dat, and sometimes it splashes back. :smoke:

Mac. :lol::lol::lol:

jason65 07-08-2009 03:01 PM

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:pty::haha:

protrash64 07-11-2009 11:57 PM

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Ok guys, another minor update. First up: at least it wasn't hot today when I decided to go work on the truck........

protrash64 07-12-2009 12:11 AM

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If you cant tell......its 110*. I also wanted to put out some general info that I discovered today. I bought power window regulators a couple years ago and I finally decided to scope 'em out. Looks cool and not too difficult at all....but here's what I found. I have the Electric Life kit for 64-66. You must drill to mount the motor assembly and it leaves 3 screws exposed thru the door!!!!. 2 will fall in the lower portion of the door and 1 falls in between the raised area and the door panel. I dont care that much, but I could see some people being very upset with it.

Decided to knock out the front clip with the 'bodymans palm pilot':lol:...used some 180 and went to town. My front clip is in good shape and will take the least amount of work so I just decided to hit it and quit! Need to do the corners, edges and small work but it was nice to get the majority knocked down in about 2 hours. I'm trying to keep up with shortbed 70:lol:...not really. Put in some more effort on the doors and will be repairing the drivers door soon.

Also got to use the round Durablock as Alan suggested in the 'indent' of the door and it worked nicely. I'll probably go back over that area of the bed before primer gets stuck. Enjoy. (Notice my Craigslist find= 36'' Maxx Air fan)

joe231 07-12-2009 12:29 AM

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cool man, glad you seem to be having a cold front hanging around :lol:

that fan is a nice find :thumbs:

kyle4381 07-12-2009 12:32 AM

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You were outside today? You survived? :devil: Looking good. I will come by and check out the progress. Maybe roast the new Michelins...:lol:

protrash64 07-12-2009 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by kyle4381 (Post 3407575)
You were outside today? You survived? :devil: Looking good. I will come by and check out the progress. Maybe roast the new Michelins...:lol:

Cool.......just do it in 4wd this time...you wont have to rotate the tires as much:lol:.:burnout::bo2:

scotts62 07-12-2009 12:45 PM

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:lol:

jgh64pkup 07-12-2009 01:42 PM

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what kinda temps do you have at night in AZ

kyle4381 07-12-2009 02:41 PM

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It gets down to 85 at about 3 am. It was still 99 at 9:45 pm last night.

Heater63 07-12-2009 08:31 PM

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Back to the power regulators. Thanks for posting that alert on the screws. I am going to put in power windows too, so would appreciate any feedback on that kit, as well as others you may have looked at.

Since you are doing the body work now, I would WELD IN the screws, so that you end up with "studs" on the inside of the door! grind the outside smooth and proceed on with your filler, primer, and blocking.

Only 104 degrees :devil:here this week, load up the trailer and come to Texas!! LOL.

Looking good, don't rush the prep. 100% of a good finish is the prep.

jgh64pkup 07-12-2009 09:35 PM

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it was 102 today here its probably about 80 now

protrash64 07-13-2009 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Heater63 (Post 3408658)
Back to the power regulators. Thanks for posting that alert on the screws. I am going to put in power windows too, so would appreciate any feedback on that kit, as well as others you may have looked at.

Since you are doing the body work now, I would WELD IN the screws, so that you end up with "studs" on the inside of the door! grind the outside smooth and proceed on with your filler, primer, and blocking.

Only 104 degrees :devil:here this week, load up the trailer and come to Texas!! LOL.

Looking good, don't rush the prep. 100% of a good finish is the prep.


Thanx Heater63.....I thought of welding in something, BUT.....I've already painted the interior:(......my thoughts are that the mounting is basically a triangle shape so it should be stable with only the 2 lowest screws. I will cover them with a speaker pod/contraption yet to be conceived. I dont like to second guess the manufacturer, but hey, it wouldnt be a hotrod if it was stock!!!:lol:

The biggest problem with welding in the screws is that I dont know how I would rotate the entire power window assembly inside the door to tighten them:lol:. If you put studs on them, then you end up with nuts on the door.

This may be hard to visualize....I will post more pics of them when I get time.

Dinos63 07-13-2009 01:02 AM

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jeff nice work and yeah it was hot today i did manage to open my garage door and that was about it for me :lol::lol:

spr85gmc 08-01-2009 12:57 AM

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Alots of good info in here how'd I miss this.

ChiefRocka 08-01-2009 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by protrash64 (Post 3407534)
...at least it wasn't hot today........

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......If you cant tell......its 110....


:lol::lol::lol:

ya right....thats funny !!!

shortbed70 08-04-2009 10:35 PM

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Yours is looking good man at least you have all your sheetmetal...

shrunken66stroker 08-14-2009 12:00 AM

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What's up with the re-hash. Too hot to work or what?

protrash64 08-14-2009 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by shrunken66stroker (Post 3463764)
What's up with the re-hash. Too hot to work or what?

Thanx for the inquiry....you're pretty much right on. I was laid off for nearly 6 mos and that is when I started the work out of boredom as I stated in the beginning. It was kinda a reverse psychology type thing; I knew if I started doing something that I really wanted to do, I would get a job......and sure as sh!t I got a job. I work for a solar electric company installing grid-tied photovoltaic systems. We start at 4:30am and its HOT:devil:....sometimes I cant even eat dinner Ive been cooked so bad during the day. I dont have a lot of energy left for the truck lately. This is the worst couple of months in the Valley IMO and I probably wont resume anything major until temps moderate a bit. I have some neat stuff and changes coming up and I will post up when I get going on them.

Hope everybody else keeps on truckin' before winter; I'm waiting for winter to get something done.:lol:

shortbed70 08-15-2009 02:18 PM

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Well congrats on the new job and I understand about the heat thats why I haven't done anything with mine in two weeks but today I got board and primed the whole cab hopefully for the last time.

Strodder 08-17-2009 07:36 PM

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Subscribed. Have to catch up now. :lol:

scotts62 08-17-2009 09:32 PM

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:agree: but looks like we have to wait until winter to see any pics :(:whine::lol::lol:

Oh yeah and congrats on the new job :metal:


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