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Those are pretty nice mpg!

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X2 on the milage!!

kind of a question out of left field bob...

how do you tune the 5.3 after you get it installed and then after you start modding it?

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Don't mean to butt in here, but you have more options with the computer. There are companies that can do just about whatever you want with these computers. Put it on a chip, plug it in, and boom instant hp gain. I know it won't work as much for you out in CA, but they can also go in and take out all the extra emissions stuff that you don't need, and sensors that you won't use too. This is mainly more off of what I have read so far. I'm still in the research stages of this setup as well. So I'm curious to see someone's swap, and their results.

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John pretty much nailed it. The tune is all in the computer. Along with removing emissions items, they can adjust for tire size and gear changes, shift points, air/fuel ratios, timing.... more than I can type out.

For mine, I am getting one of my ECM's programmed and tuned by Jesse at Wait4meperformance. Jesse has done many tunes for me and some of my friends in the past and has always done me good. This one will get me on the road and moving.

After I have all the bugs worked out of it, I will grab another ECM that I have and take it to one of the local shops that has a chassis dyno and tune the snot out of it. This way I can make a pull on the dyno, we can then change xxxxx in the settings, and make another dyno pull until we squeeze all we can out of it.

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gotcha! now if you dont mind me asking how much is the initial tune?

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For Jesse to rework the harness and do the tune will be $360. If you rework your own harness and send him your ECM, I think the tune will only be $75 or $85 then.

I have no idea how much the dyno tuning will cost though. For all I know, Jesse's tune may be staying in there for a long time! :lol:

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I hear that man! Im thinking of the same concept with my 83. actually a 4.8, 5.3, or a 6.0. really I guess bang for the buck 6.0 would be nasty in these trucks with them being lighter. mileage wouldnt be too bad. but a 5.3 is more readily availiable it seems.. keep on :metal:

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dang thats not bad at all. what do you mean rework the harness? splice into my factory one or just get the donors wiring ready for plug and play?

the dyno tune on the goat was $450 if i remember right. kinda pricey concidering how bad i still get heat soak...

sorry for all the ???'s buddy... right in the middle of your thread and all...

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No worries here, I like getting the info out! :lol:

By reworking, I mean to make the engine harness a stand-alone harness. It will have like 4-5 connections that I will need to make to the truck for it to work.

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:fry: bad thread jacker you! lol

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:haha:

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:lol: thread jack finished...


unless i can think of another question! oh yea 2 more, so for the fuel lines just use fuel injection hose and clamps, acdelco "in take" pump and sending unit w/ a high pressure switching valve? will i need the corvette fuel filter to regulate the pressure also?

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I haven't looked to see what the OEM fuel line sizes are on the truck right now, but I will either run hard line from the filter/reg up to the fuel rails, or stainless braided. I just don't feel good about running the regular soft FI hose all the way. But definitely FI line to make connections with the smooth stainless FI clamps.

Yup. In fact, when I'm done typing this post, I'll go copy a PM I sent to AceX with parts and part numbers for the fuel system parts with dual tanks.

You will if your engine uses a returnless fuel system. That's easy to tell.... if the fuel rail has two lines together pointing to the rear, one is a return, so no Vette filter/reg. If there is only one line on the rail, then yes you will. A returnless is preferred, at least for me. Only 1 line to run instead of 2. Less hassle, and less $$$.

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Bob, you are the man! thank you!!!

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Great info man! Now I'm wishing I would have gone the LSX way on mine this time. Oh well defintately the next truck!!!!:lol:


Won't be real soon though. Don't think my wife will be so forgiving on the next one!!!:lol:

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Can you say..... "like butta??!!"

I got the door alignment tool today. Ran to the shop like a little kid when I got home to try it. Stuck it on the truck, use my long Snap-On 1/2" ratchet, and gave it a good firm pull up. Took it off and..... butta!

Take two fingers and give it a fling, and it shuts tight!

Saweet!!!!!!! :metal:

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That's pretty cool. I'll have to get me one of those!

When I go to get one what do I look for? Butter Tool, or Butta Tool? :haha:

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That is very cool Bob!! So are you going to sell that tool now. Hint Hint for half price, it has been used.;)

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:lol:

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Glad that worked, Bob. Now swap the engine already!

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Look for a Butta Tool! :lol:

No blue light specials just yet! I have a few friends in line to have me tweak their doors.

I'm working on it! Since LKQ hasn't given me a price yet and won't return my phone calls, I guess they don't want my business. Scratch them off the list! Highway Auto and Tennessee Auto Salvage have not returned emails either, so they are scratched off too. Certified Auto Recyclers is the ONLY one who has bent over backwards to return phone calls and emails very promptly, usually within the hour. So they are the ones I will be buying from. I'll have all the money together by July 31, and have already told the C.A.R. rep I will be calling him first thing August 3rd. They have been great to deal with so far.

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:thumbs:

nice job on the door. need to get me one of those...

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If we wait it can be a community tool. We can just use it and then ship it to the next guy, and so on , and so on! :lol:

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Are all of the places that you are calling local? I was quoted $1K for a 5.3 with trans and accessories from the guys that I deal with here in the DFW area, but that would not include shipping. If your deal doesn't work out, let me know.

You have to keep progress going, because you are doing exactly what I wanted to do. When I bought my CTS-V, Mama said no more toys. Turns out she means it. A friend of mine ended up with one of my old Blazers (with all the good stuff on it) and I can't have it. :waah: I will just have to follow your progress intently.

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Talk to me Goose.....

None of them are local. All the local yards I've talked to in Colorado are on crack. $1200 and up for JUST an engine with intake, no accessories, harness, ECM... nothing!

If your guy can get a decent mileage (75,000-80,000 or less) 5.3 with trans and accessories, I'll pay shipping no problem! My only basic requirement is that it be a drive by wire throttle body, and come with the pedal and throttle control module and wiring from the same vehicle the engine was pulled from.

I plan on documenting this as if I were doing a FAQ on it.... mainly because that's what I want to do. :lol: I haven't really seen a very detailed how-to on this swap, so I'm going to try to do this like I did my "How to shorten a LWB frame" FAQ with a lot of detail, pictures, and part numbers.

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good idea Bob! all the threads ive found are pretty choppy or full on show builds.

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It definitely won't be a full on show build, but it will be one where I won't be embarrassed to throw the hood open to show it off in a crowd of trailer queens. :lol:

Just nice and clean, just like the General should have done.

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Jonboy - I sent you a PM.

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Bob- Try "Search Tempest" to search Craigslist. There are deals out there, you just have to find them. Personally if I were doing an LSx swap, It would be a 6.0 or nothing at all. With top end bolt on you can have 500hp that will run all day long with the a/c on and get decent mileage to boot.

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Cool! I am about to undergo redoing my doors this weekend I hope, so this has been quite handy. Did the "butta" tool cost a fortune? :)

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I use Search Tempest and Crazedlist a lot. The market for drop-outs just seems different here. I've actually been looking/trolling for a 5.3 for quite a while now, and I just haven't came across a decent deal in Colorado/Wyoming. The yards in this state are smoking everything in site, and think their stuff is gold. And I don't have the time to go pull one at a yard myself, not with mine and my wife's schedules.

This is typical of what Craigslist usually has to offer around here:

http://denver.craigslist.org/pts/1268217564.html

I'm one to tell a person to keep looking too, that those deals are out there. But I haven't found one yet in my area. And if I do, it's usually too far away to make it worth the cost.

For what I have found, the purchase price of a 6.0 is kind of out of my budget range for this project. That, and my main goal is economy first with performance being an added bonus. But if I was trying to build a tire destroyer I would definitely be hunting for a 6.0 for sure. I personally like the 5.3, it has everything I'm looking for. :D

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$36.94 including shipping from Eastwood.

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:clap::clap::clap:

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So I finally got around to putting on the new "brushed aluminum" overlay piece on the dash bezel last night. I thought it was going to be a real pain to get the old one off at first, but once I took the gasket scraper to it, it only took about 15 minutes to get the old one scraped off.

Then I cleaned the plastic with rubbing alcohol, then used an adhesion promoter stick before sticking it on. I only had to trim 2 places to get it to fit, but it looks factory now!

I forgot to take the camera home last night, so I'll get some pics tonight.

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PICS! lol

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^^^^+1

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Be careful Bob. The natives get restless if you promise pics, and then don't come through. :lol:
Can't wait to see it.

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You don't have to remind me of that!! :haha:

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OK, y'all can put the rope away!

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...c/P4290515.jpg
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...c/P4290516.jpg
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...c/P4290517.jpg
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that turned out sweet Bob.

i take it that was a bit easier than the '68's bezel!?:devil: