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SCOTI 02-09-2010 12:59 AM

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While @ the steel yard, I also picked up some 4.5" OD steel pipe needed to complete some new rear bag mounting 'hats'.

The rear suspension was originally set up w/OE truck arms & shop built 2" lowering blocks which put the bag @ the exact installed height needed. I've since swapped some Porterbuilt 3" drop TA's which altered my height requirements. My c-notch is the limiting factor on ride height so even w/the 3" dropped TA's vs. the OE TA's w/2" block, I don't get any more drop. The PB TA's do allow me to use the 'hats' for mounting the bag which means no drilling a bunch of holes in the frame. I can also adjust the exact height of the hat so the bag travel & compression is optimal (which I did ;) ).

Instead of the upper stud being centered in the mounting plate/hat, it will be off-set which allows me to use the existing OE coil-spring mounting holes even though the rear is not @ the OE dimensions. In the last pic, the OE upper hole location is just inside of the leading edge of the round tube....

SCOTI 02-09-2010 01:11 AM

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I've still been searching for a smooth, flat, square fuel-fill 'door' but haven't been able to hit the local wrecking yards. I've been walking through my local parking lots documenting vehicle types that might be possible donors.

If I can't find what I want, I went ahead & sourced the part needed for 'Plan-B'. It's stainless steel, 1.5" OD fill tube (1.25" ID), & relatively small. I've seen them used & like their simplicity but I'll need to do something to eliminate the 'shiny' appearance. The last pic is an example of a similar set-up installed....

n2billet 02-09-2010 07:10 AM

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If I can't find what I want, I went ahead & sourced the part needed for 'Plan-B'. It's stainless steel, 1.5" OD fill tube (1.25" ID), & relatively small. I've seen them used & like their simplicity but I'll need to do something to eliminate the 'shiny' appearance. The last pic is an example of a similar set-up installed....

What about bead blasting it and then flat clear it?

my67chevytruck 02-09-2010 08:42 AM

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Nice progress Scoti.....

SCOTI 02-09-2010 09:54 AM

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What about bead blasting it and then flat clear it?

I'm thinking more along the Darth Vader look & make it disappear w/the bed liner. You still in town?

aggie91 02-09-2010 10:42 AM

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Not much progress as I'm trying to source parts which ultimately effect planning direction....

I picked up the aluminum material that will be used for re-positioning the rear axles center-line back approx 1.5". My plan was to utilize a solid piece of alum but the limited size & amount I needed rendered a significant jump in price. I decided to go w/what was readily available & used some 'drop' material from my local steel yard. One local metal supplier wanted $70+ for what I needed (which I had a few choice words for), so my steel yard let me scour through their alum scrap stack & these 2pcs (.500" x 3" x 21" total) cost me < $7. I'll have to stack them but it really won't impact their function....


Scoti - I thought that the Porterbuilt TA's moved the center line of the rear axle back that 1.5"? or am I missing something?? What about just moving the cross member back the required 1.5"?

On another note, can you get a measurement for me? I no longer have a stock rear end houseing. I need to know how far part the mounting pads on the axle are? A measurement from the center of the rear hole (for the u-bolt) to the center of the other rear hole and the same for the front holes would be helpful. Thanks in advance.

SCOTI 02-09-2010 11:40 AM

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Scoti - I thought that the Porterbuilt TA's moved the center line of the rear axle back that 1.5"? or am I missing something?? What about just moving the cross member back the required 1.5"?

On another note, can you get a measurement for me? I no longer have a stock rear end houseing. I need to know how far part the mounting pads on the axle are? A measurement from the center of the rear hole (for the u-bolt) to the center of the other rear hole and the same for the front holes would be helpful. Thanks in advance.

The PB arms are the same length (and adjustable). The PB TA c.member has the option to shift the rear axle back (different set of holes from what I remember). I'm using an ECE c.member that I already had so I didn't get the PB unit.

As for moving the c.member back, that's one method among several options. I figured by using the alum spacers, I can fine tune the exact dimension I want vs. drilling more holes & limiting the placement options (what if I need more/less that I thought??).

I'll try & get you those housing pad dimensions tonight.

aggie91 02-15-2010 04:42 PM

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I'll try & get you those housing pad dimensions tonight.

Thanks Scoti!

SCOTI 02-15-2010 05:15 PM

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Thanks Scoti!

The recent weather plus my work schedule kept me from the shop from Wednesday on. I should get back out there tonight or tomorrow.

MacAttack 02-15-2010 05:52 PM

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:metal: Great score on the material! :metal:

aggie91 02-16-2010 12:02 AM

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The recent weather plus my work schedule kept me from the shop from Wednesday on. I should get back out there tonight or tomorrow.

I fully understand. No worries, whenever you get it, I am still a ways from that part of my build. Thanks again.

SCOTI 02-17-2010 02:00 AM

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I worked late but managed to source the necessary hardware for completing the truck-arm spacers. Maybe tomorrow I'll get some 'quality time' @ the shop & finish welding the rear bag hats (and take a couple measurements ;) )....

SCOTI 02-18-2010 01:55 AM

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Chip . . .... chip.... chip. A little here, a little there; progress is progress.

I finished up the rear bag 'hats' (well.... almost). I still need to add a stud that will align w/the top OE frame hole for the spring (it will be offset to accomodate the set-back on the rear end). I didn't have long enough bolts so I'll source them & get these wrapped up by this weekend.

The set-back worked out just right as the 'hat' just nudges the rear OE rivets that retain the reinforcement plate for the springs. Installed (ride) height for the bags is 6-6.5". When dumped, they should hit the internal bump-stop @ the same time the axle tube bottoms out on the frame c-notch....

my67chevytruck 02-18-2010 09:12 AM

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Nice work Scoti!

MattA 02-18-2010 09:46 AM

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Looks good, another scratch on the list.

VA72C10 02-18-2010 09:51 AM

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nicely done!!!

SCOTI 02-18-2010 11:11 AM

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Thanks guys!

Dinos63 02-18-2010 12:30 PM

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HOLY SH-T WHAT A NICE JOB!!! this is going to be a badd a$$ , i love the fact how clean you work and how precise you fab stuff is, the quality of your work is killer nice job kat!!

Frizzle Fry 02-18-2010 02:53 PM

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Just found this and subscribed. Love the upper shock mounts and exhaust route path Scoti. I went with 1" longer PB arms and figure the adjustable del spheres will give me enough room to play with fore/aft. Might have to use the spacers on my 64 though. BTW, I'm in Austin next week. Might have no choice but to check this baddog out :)

64Fugly 02-18-2010 02:56 PM

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Good job it is really looking good.

N2TRUX 02-20-2010 06:05 PM

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Dang Scot! You have been moving along at a decent pace. You never mentioned this last time we talked.

SCOTI 02-20-2010 08:33 PM

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Dang Scot! You have been moving along at a decent pace. You never mentioned this last time we talked.

There's more done but I'm showing only the pics of the chassis so far. Once I'm past that, I'll have other stuff too.

thepartsguy 02-23-2010 09:54 AM

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Subscribed. :)

FRENCHBLUE72 02-24-2010 10:47 PM

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Damn nice work scoti....

SCOTI 02-25-2010 12:24 AM

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I got a little time in tonight but nothing worth pics.

To recap, I've been considering two choices for my fuel-fill change since my original 'easy-fill' option wouldn't work. Last Friday, I picked up a nice, flat, rectangular, flip open gas door. Option #1 is flush mounting a stainless filler in the floor. Option #2 is the bed (floor) mounted gas door w/the filler just below the floor.

Option #1 is more than likely the route I'll take but I needed to visualize the size, placement, & complexity of each to make the final decision....

N2TRUX 02-25-2010 08:51 AM

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It may be more work, but I like option #2...:)

SCOTI 02-25-2010 03:45 PM

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It may be more work, but I like option #2...:)

I think it's the cleaner choice but the material is very thin & would require substantial re-working. That extra work has me questioning its worth....

Alan's Classic 02-25-2010 10:16 PM

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I prefer option 2 as well. It's all up to you as to which you like best. All we can do is give our .02. ;) If your leanin' towards option 1 then run with it. They are both nice options.:chevy:

SCOTI 02-26-2010 01:24 AM

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I prefer option 2 as well. It's all up to you as to which you like best. All we can do is give our .02. ;) If your leanin' towards option 1 then run with it. They are both nice options.:chevy:

I wish the material was thicker & wouldn't require remaking most of it. I like it as the better option if this was a full blown ride.... Since it's just a 'distraction', I'll take the 'EASY' button this time around.

A little bit of time on the floor yielded a rough idea of how the flush mount set-up will look. I used what was readily available to mimic the 45° slope on the floor runners but widen out near the C/L of the cap. The steel is cut & just taped in place for observation. I fogged it w/some satin blk to get a better idea of how it flows w/the bed runner that runs the length of the floor....

my67chevytruck 02-26-2010 08:49 AM

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looking good, we did the '67 similar to that. I liked the option #2 as well, but didnt find a fuel door at the local JY quick enough, and just took the easy way out....

SCOTI 02-26-2010 10:09 AM

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looking good, we did the '67 similar to that. I liked the option #2 as well, but didnt find a fuel door at the local JY quick enough, and just took the easy way out....

I looked through the build but didn't notice bed floor pics.

aggie91 02-26-2010 10:41 AM

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Boy, I missed something...I had to go back and skim through this whole thing to find out why your doing this for the filler neck. I found where you strugled with the piping from your original location in the corner. I thought that location was great. A buddy of mine did one in the corner on a '71 model that turned out nice, but I never looked at the piping or tank type.

I like how this centered location looks with the small filler. I think that getting anodized in a satin black if you use a spay in liner would make it almost disapear.

Not to bug you too much, but did you have a chance to get those measurements of the axle perches?

SCOTI 02-26-2010 01:07 PM

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Boy, I missed something...I had to go back and skim through this whole thing to find out why your doing this for the filler neck. I found where you strugled with the piping from your original location in the corner. I thought that location was great. A buddy of mine did one in the corner on a '71 model that turned out nice, but I never looked at the piping or tank type.

I like how this centered location looks with the small filler. I think that getting anodized in a satin black if you use a spay in liner would make it almost disapear.

Not to bug you too much, but did you have a chance to get those measurements of the axle perches?

I have the axle installed on the chassis (on my 'table') so gettin accurate dimensions has been a challenge while working solo. My buddy stopped by the shop Wed night after dropping his daughter off but only stayed a few minutes. I asked a guy from my work to lend a hand w/it after work tonight (he owes me a favor).

SCOTI 02-27-2010 10:45 PM

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Well, it turned out ok. I'm not 100% pleased but I think it will suffice for this build. Keeping the corners aligned & symmetrical was much harder than anticipated. I also got the first fuel fill hole I cut out patched up while I was cutting, welding, & grinding....

VA72C10 02-27-2010 11:33 PM

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It came out nice!!!

aggie91 03-01-2010 10:55 AM

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Looks good on the fill hole. Are you going to do a spray in bed liner or paint? I think that the liner would hide whatever you do not like...I don't see anything wrong in the pics.

Thanks for the measurements on the rear end.

kizer 03-01-2010 01:50 PM

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Wow I'm digging your attention to detail on things.

Subscribed of course. ;)

Jonboy 03-01-2010 05:23 PM

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I hate I wasn't able to check this one out yesterday. Maybe next time.

SCOTI 03-01-2010 06:17 PM

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I hate I wasn't able to check this one out yesterday. Maybe next time.

I thought about that, but..... you came to my house; the truck is @ location #2; & the 'build' is going on @ location #3 :lol: .

lolife99 03-01-2010 07:15 PM

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Scoti,...
I planned on just cutting a round hole and shoving my "homemade" adapter
up thru the bed floor (from the bottom side) and welding in place.
I made the step the same height as the bed floor rib.
Still haven't installed it,... but here's a few pics of the piece I made.

I don't have your welding skills, so I have to make do.


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