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OrrieG 10-30-2010 03:55 PM

Re: Freddy's '52
 
Nice work. How cool would it be to use it for a template to CNC mill one out of solid aluminum??

1952ssr 11-01-2010 09:25 AM

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"REDNECK ENGINEERING" at it's finest. Me have welder....me can make anything. LOL


A CNC'nd bracket would be SWWWWEEEEEEEEET.

1952ssr 11-10-2010 03:00 PM

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Let me tell you guys a funny story. Monday night I was going to attempt the test fit of my radiator in "Fred". Well when I picked it up and started to put it into the truck it sounded like balls rolling around inside it. So I started shaking it with the hose openings downward then out comes an acorn then another and another. My shop is nothing more than a tin shack with a concrete floor, so I guess I found the critters stash for the winter. LOL

RootBeer 6117 11-10-2010 08:53 PM

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Yep SSR, I walked into my shed this last weekend and saw the mice scatter their getting ready for winter. I will have to post some pictures of the muffler off the 49 it is packed full and running out, the 49 was a mouse state it had its own zip code they had every nook and cranny packed.

I was thinkin about you this week we slid the LT1 back and it looks like I can use the roadmaster drive shaft but the lower a/c bracket is close you can see day light but I might have to do a little notching.BTW I did some back bracket mods to get it that far.

1952ssr 11-16-2010 06:01 PM

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I'm totally feeling the pain, I really would like to move mine back as well. Using the Z28 radiator and fan set up is taking up ALL of the compartment in front of the engine, I'm considering moving my whole cab/doghouse forward 1-2 inches. I had planned off work last Thursday and Friday.....spent Thursday at Quickcare half the day and the rest of time stuck in the house sick with strep throwt, so no progress. Two full wonderful days shot, I did get all my Powerblock recordings watched.

Dieselwrencher 11-16-2010 06:56 PM

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Nice progress! One quick question I have for you guys. Are you both using wiring harnesses from donor cars? I am considering installing an LT1 from a 95 Firebird into my 40 ford and want to do it as clean as possible on the cheap. Am I better off to use the firebird's wire harness and every bit off of it I can? Thanks Ryan.

RootBeer 6117 11-16-2010 07:18 PM

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Diesel I am I had a complete roadmaster and got all the wires from it. I cant spend the money on a new harness, I have all the wire diagrams I need and can eliminate what I don't need.(Which I can help out with most 82 or newer cars).I will probably get the PCM flashed at some point once i get figure ratios and tire sizes.
One other thing is the bracket mounting on a LT1 can be a pain but I ain't going to let that stop me
SSR I spent weekend before last very close to a bathroom just in case.this last weekend Freezing my A#$ off at a MU game and cooking 6 turkeys for my daughters youth group. Im gald I can go to work and work on my truck.

1952ssr 11-17-2010 11:41 AM

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I too am using the Z's harness, I wasn't going to spend the extra money UNLESS I couldn't figure out the harness. LT1 swap.com really has some great things for doing a LT job. For a job like yours and as both myself and rootbeer have found the accessories aren't mounted friendly but here's an idea for your 40. This set up is sweet I think it's made by march.

RootBeer 6117 11-17-2010 09:53 PM

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Man something else I will have to add to my "when I win the lottery" list.

56ClassicTruck 11-18-2010 12:34 PM

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Nice bracket ssr, i got my lt in and i had to shortened my roadmaster drive shaft.
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1952ssr 11-18-2010 05:50 PM

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Nice bracket ssr, i got my lt in and i had to shortened my roadmaster drive shaft.
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Thanks,56. Glad to hear of progress.

RootBeer 6117 11-23-2010 07:39 PM

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Hey SSR I had to show you this, this fan set up was on my LT1 when I got it. it has it own tensioner and a pulley bolted to the harmonic balancer,maybe some day I can come up with a A/C set up from it.
Also I mentioned the mouse nest the muffler and pipe are packed full.

1952ssr 11-24-2010 10:07 AM

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Thanks for those pictures RB, that's an interesting setup. I have seen pictures but never knew what exactly it was. That would probably work good if there was room on our trucks. I'm in a pickle with mine and am just frustrated!! The Z28 radiator is to tall to work and with the fans are real close to the motor. I don't want to spend the money for a new radiator but it looks like I have no other choice cause I can't find a junkyard one. Gotta love the mices.

RootBeer 6117 11-25-2010 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 1952ssr (Post 4311286)
Thanks for those pictures RB, that's an interesting setup. I have seen pictures but never knew what exactly it was. That would probably work good if there was room on our trucks. I'm in a pickle with mine and am just frustrated!! The Z28 radiator is to tall to work and with the fans are real close to the motor. I don't want to spend the money for a new radiator but it looks like I have no other choice cause I can't find a junkyard one. Gotta love the mices.

I feel your pain. Scrap prices are up around here, we cleaned up a bunch of old parts i.e. separated aluminium from metal and plastic, and did pretty good.

Dieselwrencher 11-25-2010 08:22 PM

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Thanks for the info guys! Man those brackets are nice, we'll have to see how the bank account looks then. :lol:

1952ssr 12-10-2010 12:22 PM

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Well after having the thought my truck is just a rat rod and knowing it will never be the emaculant show truck I decided to cut my grill. And last night I did it and the radiator is gonna work. I had to notch out each side on the back grill fins and cut the braces off. I got my bottom mount welded the frame so tomorrow I'll work on finishing how it will be held in the truck.

Kabwe 12-10-2010 06:38 PM

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It's all coming together nicely. Keep up the good work.

RootBeer 6117 12-10-2010 06:42 PM

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SSR I was thinking the same thing last week I wondered "IF". Either way I am going to have to buy a radiator

1952ssr 12-13-2010 12:23 PM

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Here's my progress from Saturday. I got the radiator mounts finished, it has to come out from the bottom(same as it did in the z orginally). I tried to make it simple and functional. I'll take some pictures of what mods I had to do to the grill next.

RootBeer 6117 12-13-2010 07:44 PM

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Wow! I'm staying tuned

1952ssr 12-28-2010 11:00 AM

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A little more progress over my vacation, between the cold and spending time with my son I didn't get much done. But, I made my wife SOOOOOOOOOOO happy, I got the wiring harness off the dining room table after two years. Attached are the pictures of it and some from the grill mods.

youngrodder 12-28-2010 12:07 PM

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I cheated and bought an aftermarket harness. I didn't trust myself that the motor would run right after I hacked up the original harness up. That is even with having a copy of the factory wiring schematic. Ha ha

Nice work.
Marc

1952ssr 12-28-2010 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by youngrodder (Post 4373841)
I cheated and bought an aftermarket harness. I didn't trust myself that the motor would run right after I hacked up the original harness up. That is even with having a copy of the factory wiring schematic. Ha ha

Nice work.
Marc

Thanks, I understand totally. All those wires are intimidating, I know it did me. I couldn't read a schematic at first for anything, but I said to myself...self you can do this to save 500 bucks. I have looked at the schematics for 2 years and have went through things over and over. After Brendon of LT1swap .com updated his website with all the info of what to delete I knew I could finish what I started. I have to send him my PCM to program so I'm believing it will run, hopefully to see that by the end of the month.

56ClassicTruck 12-28-2010 01:07 PM

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Congrats on your wiring Joey, I bet that feels good. I haven't started on mine I am scared lol.
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OrrieG 12-28-2010 01:41 PM

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Two years!!!??? My wife would have moved it to my man cave or the garage after two weekends. Looking good, I am getting close to starting that part of mine.

bensimmons_05 12-29-2010 12:43 PM

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I like that your doing the wiring yourself. I may be weird but I get some kind of odd enjoyment out of playing with wiring... Its like a puzzle! The truck is looking great, I love what you did with the gauges, I look at them everyday in my Trans am and never would have guessed that the vital gauges would fit in two round holes, WELL DONE!

1952ssr 12-29-2010 05:35 PM

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Thanks for the compliments guys. I told my wife about your comment OrrieG, she laughed. She is a very patient woman, I'm so very lucky.

RootBeer 6117 12-29-2010 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 1952ssr (Post 4376064)
Thanks for the compliments guys. I told my wife about your comment OrrieG, she laughed. She is a very patient woman, I'm so very lucky.

Yes she is yes you are, I washed some truck tail lights in the dish washer one time my wife went WWE Throw down on me. If I would have walked in with a wiring harness and laid it on the table WW3, the world would have ended.

1952ssr 01-05-2011 12:59 PM

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Well, I've working on Fred's wiring harness. I went back the junkyard where I bought my motor and robbed some more connectors off the Z that my motor came from and another Z of it's harness cause I had cut mine up. I had some really good ideas over the holidays for the wiring on the truck. Trying to use factory plugs so I can unplug things and not have to cut the wiring. I also spent all my Christmas money on new hoses and such. I went to my muffler guy in town and he fixed me a piece for my header since my steering shaft goes through it. You can also see where I had to modify the two middle tubes for clearance. Hoping to have it running by the end of January.

Rootbeer do you have any good schematics for a 1985 S10? I have a Haynes book and ones from the Autozone website, but still am having troubles how to do the ignition hookup using the s10 harness and its steering column.

RootBeer 6117 01-05-2011 01:49 PM

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Well, I've working on Fred's wiring harness. I went Rootbeer do you have any good schematics for a 1985 S10? I have a Haynes book and ones from the Autozone website, but still am having troubles how to do the ignition hookup using the s10 harness and its steering column.

SSR the closest I could get is 89 I had a partial 86 but it was very hard to read most time the ing switch stays the same for a few years try this if It doesn't work PM me.
Joe

1952ssr 01-06-2011 11:13 AM

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Thank you Rootbeer, that helps me out greatly. I had a partial of this same one, but couldn't never really figure it out or remember where I got it from. I think this will get me over the hump. Just had to figure how to merge the Z underhood harness with the S10 harness ignition part. I don't want to see or smell any smoke when I turn the key.

RootBeer 6117 01-06-2011 07:35 PM

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SSR I might have something else that will help you, your using a harness from a 94 Z28 right?I should be able to get a PCM connector view that will make things a lot simpler for you, I can only get it off all-data so I will post it tomorrow.I use them to wire up a 95 350 TBI motor so they can learn how to read diagrams. Hopefully they have the same one for you car. I will say GM used a lot of the same wire colors for a lot of years in cars and trucks for the ignition switch and early 80 GM wiring diagrams SUCK!

1952ssr 01-07-2011 03:34 PM

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You are right RB it's a '94 Z28. What I'm doing is using the underhood fuse block/wires from the Z since it has fan relays and fuses for injectors, o2's, fans, and ignition. The extra fuses(wires)not used like for the air pump/fog lights will be for the fuel pump and map sensor. I want to use the S10 harness for starting and everything else(except gauges which will run from the PCM/engine), the schematic you sent helps me big time. I know I have one(pink)wire from the uhfb to go the ignition switch and one(orange) wire for the ignition and one(red) wire hot at all times. The relays have there own hot wire. I'm trying to keep it as close to factory as I can. I hope this makes sense.

RootBeer 6117 01-07-2011 04:54 PM

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See if this helps
A-RED
B- BLACK
C-CLEAR
D-BLUE
This is the PCM connector

1952ssr 01-07-2011 05:40 PM

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Thanks RB!!! Could you tell me if ignition and ignition switch is considered the same, or are they are different. have a great weekend.

RootBeer 6117 01-07-2011 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 1952ssr (Post 4394329)
Thanks RB!!! Could you tell me if ignition and ignition switch is considered the same, or are they are different. have a great weekend.

As far as? on the view I just posted ignition feed would be 12 volt key switched on.

1952ssr 01-12-2011 05:07 PM

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Well, with two days snow/ice and no chance of going to work (awe shucks) we produced some results. I got the harness for both the LT and S10 put into place, fuel pump wires ran and souldered many wires together. I may move the ECM onto the inner fender later but it is finally coming together. Look at all the purty colors....No church tonight so I will get some more done then.

RootBeer 6117 01-12-2011 08:54 PM

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Man that looks familiar, I haven't got brave enough to cut the ECM wiring yet I am still figuring out were I am going to mount it. If I get brave enough under the dash is were I would like to do it.It sure looks like you have got a lot of room between the engine and cab maybe its cause I have my front clip on.

We've had the last two days off from school, 8" inches of snow and 0/ -15 wind chills(I bet the Canadians get a laugh if they read this), Its bummin me out to keep having snow days that's more nice days in May we have to go.
Joe

ratty 46 01-12-2011 10:41 PM

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Great progress .... I couldn't stop reading. I'm down the street in Lawrenceville. I hope to see this truck out this summer.

Ratty 46

1952ssr 01-24-2011 11:16 AM

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More accomplished this last week/weekend. Been removing wires from the s10 harness that won't be used, got the brackets on the engines finally finished/painted and bolted up for the last time. Bought new plugs /wires to replace old, then I got the nerve up to remove a valve cover and to my surprise this 120,000+ mile motor looked pretty good up top so I hope the bottom is just as good. Here'a shot of it.


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