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nickp51chevy 12-15-2010 10:28 PM

Re: Be Gentle. . . I'm an Amateur.
 
Nice build. Keep it up!

MrDude_1 12-16-2010 11:47 AM

Re: Be Gentle. . . I'm an Amateur.
 
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Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher (Post 4352427)
Basically it is a die grinder with an attatchment for a mini belt sander on the head of it.

i am not positive what im going to use it for, but that tool looks so cool, im going to go buy one today.. :lol:

before i bought my 51, i never went to harbor freight this much before.. now, im there atleast a couple times a month. their cheap but effective cutoff wheels, flap discs, cheap grinders, etc.. have been invaluable in getting my truck project going.

Clay54 12-16-2010 06:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher (Post 4352427)
Basically it is a die grinder with an attatchment for a mini belt sander on the head of it.

Well, I made my monthly trek to HF this afternoon and found this gizwiz. The air unit and the belt sander are sold as one. If you look it up on the HF website, 97055, they are on back order and priced at $24.99. At my store, there are 4 (four) on the shelf priced at $24.99. Will get my 20% coupon and go back tomorrow. Thought you might like to know. Clay

Groyd 12-16-2010 07:27 PM

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Thanks for all the compliments and advice. I've never heard of 90% of the tools you guys just showed me. I'll look into them later this week. Thanks again.

-MG

Groyd 12-22-2010 10:51 PM

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I looked for a pedal rod extension all over town and ended up finding one online but it was like $40. I barely had to go forward. The pedal actually worked perfect right on the edge of the rod.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...d/IMG_0213.jpg
I was wondering if anyone had any ideas as to why this would be a bad idea? It just seemed to make sense, but I could be overlooking something. I just stacked two washers and welded them together. Then ground them down to make a flat side and welded it to another pair of washers.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...d/IMG_0214.jpg
It fit really well. Any suggestions as to why this wouldn't be safe? It feels really sturdy to me and it bolted in perfectly.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...d/IMG_0215.jpg

JML55 12-23-2010 12:55 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Groyd (Post 4365500)
I looked for a pedal rod extension all over town and ended up finding one online but it was like $40. I barely had to go forward. The pedal actually worked perfect right on the edge of the rod.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...d/IMG_0213.jpg
I was wondering if anyone had any ideas as to why this would be a bad idea? It just seemed to make sense, but I could be overlooking something. I just stacked two washers and welded them together. Then ground them down to make a flat side and welded it to another pair of washers.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...d/IMG_0214.jpg
It fit really well. Any suggestions as to why this wouldn't be safe? It feels really sturdy to me and it bolted in perfectly.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...d/IMG_0215.jpg

I think i would want to have the right part for the job. Its not just your safety its also others. Just my opinion.

kustombrad 12-23-2010 02:22 AM

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Not sure I would do that, being that is the most important part of your whole baby! I would cut the rod, find some tubing that has the same inside diameter. I would make the tubing overlap an 1" on each side, weld it up good and even if 1 weld broke, you could still stop the truck! Just me thinking overkill!
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franky69c10 12-23-2010 04:27 AM

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Nice build
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Mike Bradbury 12-23-2010 05:17 AM

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Great progress for a first timer.

I would agree that you really should look around and find the right part for your braking system. You don't want to find out in a panic stop if your welds hold or not.

BlueJeep 12-23-2010 09:58 AM

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I'd cut the rod and lengthen it with a piece the same diameter.

OrrieG 12-23-2010 02:07 PM

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I'm with bluejeep. You can also put on an exterior sleeve for extra strength. Those washers will flex over time.

Thadious 12-23-2010 02:21 PM

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Two things I refuse to cut and splice... Brake systems and steering systems.... all others are fair game!

I would seriously consider rethinking the double washer idea... if you had to... lay it out on a piece of 1/4" plate and drill and cut the part out... no joints, no welds... and always overbuild... you have no idea how much stomp pressure you'll put on that in an emergency or fatigue failure over time...

Something else to consider... that rod isn't supported and will flex up and down given the opportunity... with a connector such as that, it will rotate up or down as that rod flexes and you won't get the horizontal push on the booster you're looking for.

Better safe than sorry!

My 2 cents...
Ted.

PS If you are using the S10 brake booster and the S10 pedal and support... it should bolt right up!

Groyd 12-23-2010 03:50 PM

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Thanks for all the replies. I wasn't sure about the homemade extension, it looks pretty unanimous to get rid of it. I was more worried about it rotating like Thadious mentioned that the actual welds.

I think I found a double clevis that will do the trick and won't require any welding, that way I know I won't have to worry about it. It's rated at 3900lbs. I'm assuming my dinky welds weren't rated at that. Thanks again for all the quick replies.

BlueJeep 12-25-2010 03:52 PM

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Along with what Thadious said, what are we missing? I'm assuming the pedal and the booster aren't out of the same truck, is that true? On mine, I noticed that the 95 s10 booster wouldn't work with the 90 pedal, so I used everything off the 90 and it worked as expected.

Groyd 12-26-2010 06:40 PM

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The booster is from the blazer that I got the rear axle out of. The pedal assembly I had to go pull from an 89 s-10, I didn't get the booster out of it. I assumed the blazer booster would be the same.

Groyd 01-08-2011 12:24 AM

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Finished getting my shifter installed. I went with the Lokar Nostalgia Shifter 15". I wish I could go back and tell my geometry teacher that I actually used the pythagorean theorem. . . ha.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...d/DSC01316.jpg
I sat it in there just for some pics.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...d/IMG_0224.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...d/IMG_0223.jpg

I welded a lip around the edge so I can just bolt it to the floor and make for easy access in case there is something that goes wrong with the neutral safety switch on the shifter.

bjcaldwe 01-09-2011 01:57 PM

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Nice work.

BC Toy chest 01-14-2011 01:51 PM

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Looks good

Groyd 01-17-2011 04:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BC Toy chest (Post 4410914)
Looks good

Quote:

Originally Posted by bjcaldwe (Post 4397942)
Nice work.

Thanks guys.

I've been out of town for about a week and I'm ready to get back to work on the truck. Hopefully I can get the emergency brake in this week.

Groyd 01-30-2011 11:16 PM

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I'm trying to find a spot to mount the s10 e-brake. I don't know if I want it to stay here or if I should get a hand operated handle instead of the s10 foot e-brake.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...d/IMG_0231.jpg

My cousin came over and we started trying to figure out where we are going to put the computer, battery, etc.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...d/IMG_0230.jpg

It's about to snow and sleet here so I moved some stuff around so I could park my car in the garage again. I moved the bed onto the frame and snapped a pic just to get an idea of what it would look like. I'll have to move the bed floor up a couple inches before I'm done. I'm definitely glad I lowered the cab another two inches a few weeks ago.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...d/IMG_0229.jpg

Thadious 01-31-2011 12:28 AM

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For my ebrake... I did use the S10 one, but I had to remake the arm itself for length and to look right. The computer I mounted above the heater on the passenger's side with the wiring going down the right side and out through the firewall there. Of course it helped going with a Painless Harness for the engine and chopped up the S10 harness for the chassis and ABS.

Cheers,
Ted.

Groyd 01-31-2011 07:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Thadious (Post 4451080)
For my ebrake... I did use the S10 one, but I had to remake the arm itself for length and to look right. The computer I mounted above the heater on the passenger's side with the wiring going down the right side and out through the firewall there. Of course it helped going with a Painless Harness for the engine and chopped up the S10 harness for the chassis and ABS.

Cheers,
Ted.

I perused your thread for a pic of your e-brake, couldn't find any. I would certainly like to see how it turned out.

-MG

P.S. I love the creativity in your build, lots of good ideas.

Kabwe 01-31-2011 08:09 PM

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The truck is really looking good man.

Dieselwrencher 01-31-2011 09:00 PM

Re: Be Gentle. . . I'm an Amateur.
 
Very nice progress. Good descion to ditch the washer coupler.

Groyd 01-31-2011 09:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kabwe (Post 4452910)
The truck is really looking good man.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher (Post 4453064)
Very nice progress. Good descion to ditch the washer coupler.

Thanks. I definitely underestimated the time line on this thing. The good news is that my wife is preggers and she wants this truck done, so she OK'd letting me take some parts to my uncle's body shop and let them finish up the sanding and dents. I never knew how difficult it was to sand and smooth out lines/dents and get the body clean.

I'm going to try and get the doors flush once it gets a little warmer here. I only hope it doesn't require what you've had to do to yours Kabwe. I lack the patience and skill.

gibbons 02-16-2011 12:24 AM

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hey i'm wanting to put the 5.3 in my truck also but i was wondering what your plans are as far as a fuel tank?

Groyd 02-17-2011 10:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gibbons (Post 4489845)
hey i'm wanting to put the 5.3 in my truck also but i was wondering what your plans are as far as a fuel tank?

I'm going to use the s-10 fuel tank and run the filler through the bed floor, possibly in a low profile truck tool box. I believe you can run a corvette fuel filter and you don't have to change the fuel pump if you had the 2.2L engine.

I'll have to double check all of that, but thats what I remember off the top of my head. My cousin is the brains helping me out, otherwise I wouldn't have a clue.

Lots of info on here if you're doing an s-10 LSx swap.
http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f213/l...mation-390967/

gibbons 02-18-2011 12:36 AM

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yeah i am currently working on a 47 gmc and my brain has never been this worked before in my life. There is so much thinking that goes into these ground up restorations and then adding in electrical just takes it to a new level. im excited to put a 5.3 in it though

Groyd 02-19-2011 08:23 PM

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I need some help on this one, I've considered about a thousand different paint and color options. I've been considering "Legend Lime Green" that was on the 05-06 F**d Mustangs and maybe some small gray or black pinstriping.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...nroyd/llgm.jpg

But after I saw the "Mocha Steel Metallic" on the newer GM models I've kind of been jumping back and forth. I know I definitely want some pinstriping done afterwards and I'm not sure how great it would look with the brown. I know kustombrad http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=320546 did some stripes with brown and it looked great. Any input appreciated.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...yd/equinox.jpg

If it helps, I'm planning on these wheels.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...oyd/wheels.jpg

flatbed51 02-20-2011 09:56 AM

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Hey Groyd, I like the Mocha Brown the best, but that is just my preferance. I love the wheels.
How's the wiring going?

Groyd 02-21-2011 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by flatbed51 (Post 4499268)
Hey Groyd, I like the Mocha Brown the best, but that is just my preferance. I love the wheels.
How's the wiring going?

I was dead set on the green and then I thought, "I don't see many people with brown." I guess because it is so neutral. I definitely don't want anything too flashy.

The wiring had been about halfway done for about a week and a half. We should hopefully finish it up this week. (Fingers crossed)

Groyd 03-21-2011 11:48 PM

ABS Delete
 
I got rid of all the ABS stuff and put a proportioning valve that mounts to the master cylinder/booster. I looked everywhere trying to find fittings on the s10forum for the proportioning valve. A guy at Autozone ended up letting me go to the back with my parts and just fit everything. Here is what I ended up with. I got the bracket and lines that attach the MC to the prop valve from waylayedinc.com, here is an image of the sizes and the mount.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...kit__26821.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2.../PropValve.jpg
I don't know if anyone else is going this route, but if so these part numbers might save some time at Autozone. I used adapters for the fronts
PAA-R350 (#561007)
3/8"-24 to 1/2"-20

PAA-R340 (#561006)
3/8"-24 to 7/16"-24
I then used inverted flares to attach the factory s10 lines to the adapters to the proportioning valve.

BLU-4C (#845016)

BLU-5C (#845017)?

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...d/DSC01321.jpg
The lines need to be cleaned up and moved around a little, but you get the idea. This may be a bunch of wasted info, but it might help somebody save a little time.:metal:

1952ssr 03-22-2011 08:59 AM

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Man you saved my life, I have needed that diagram for 2 weeks. I switched all my '85 s10 brake lines over to newer bigger lines because my s10 was a rust machine and I wanted to be safe. I know I could have taken my brake lines to the AP store but now I don't have to. THANK YOU

Groyd 03-22-2011 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by 1952ssr (Post 4569281)
Man you saved my life, I have needed that diagram for 2 weeks. I switched all my '85 s10 brake lines over to newer bigger lines because my s10 was a rust machine and I wanted to be safe. I know I could have taken my brake lines to the AP store but now I don't have to. THANK YOU

No problem. I'm glad it actually helped someone.

GMC4wheels71 03-22-2011 02:45 PM

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Looks great! Subscribed :)

Groyd 04-06-2011 10:58 PM

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I moved my e-brake to the floor on the drivers side.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...d/DSC01320.jpg

PO had a bunch of lights in the dash. I cut them out for the A/C controls, and moved the wiper controls in the choke slot. I'll fill the wiper spot later this week.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...d/DSC01327.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...d/DSC01342.jpg

The wife said she wouldn't set foot in the truck if it didn't have A/C. I had to cut up the inner fender to mount my battery and cut out a space for my A/C compressor.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...d/DSC01325.jpg

Seems like I end up grinding off about three times the amount that I weld. I'm not getting the hang of this craft yet. The cheapo welder doesn't help either.

txrdnek 04-06-2011 11:44 PM

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I like that brake handle location that looks sharp, and I was wondering just this morning where I was gonna put the battery, your idea looks like a good one that I may have to do myself. Looks good.

GMC4wheels71 04-07-2011 12:46 AM

Re: Be Gentle. . . I'm an Amateur.
 
My wife said the same thing -
Still not a compressor in my truck LOL!

I don't blame you though. Those OK summers get HOT. The layout looks nice and clean too.
Don't sweat the grinding. It's all part of the learning process. You're doing great!

Mike Bradbury 04-09-2011 11:33 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Groyd (Post 4498120)
If it helps, I'm planning on these wheels.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...oyd/wheels.jpg

Well if you are planning on the Coy's C-55 wheel then you better call and see if they have your size now. Those wheels have been discontinued and they only have limited sizes left. I wanted 17's but there was none left, so I got the 18's instead.

kustombrad 04-09-2011 12:39 PM

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Truck is lookin' good dude! Keep at it...
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