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75gmc454 02-08-2011 12:09 AM

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Sounds good Jud. That third pulley is for the A/C. That is the one that is very close to that crossmember.

I took that cowl piece off to clean all of the leaves out and get those drains open. It was loaded with leaves and trash.

Bob B. 02-08-2011 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Vintage Windmills (Post 4468892)
Bob B, would you have a picture of the correct mount in your truck? I'd like to compare with mine.

Guys, I will post some pictures when I get a chance in the next day or so. Sorry, I have been busy. I'll also explain the pulleys. Bob.

75gmc454 02-08-2011 10:09 PM

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That sounds good Bob.

I think I have found what the problem is. Someone has put shims under all rear mounts for some reason. That caused the A/C pulley to rub that front crossmember. Then someone welded those tabs on the drivers side motor mount to raise the front of the engine. I am going to start over by finding the right mount and taking out all of those shims and see what happens.

I drove the truck today, and I cannot get the front drive shaft to stop turning. I have the truck in 2wd and the hubs unlocked but it still turns. It is not the front axle because I jacked up the truck and they are unlocked. The problem is with the transfercase. Any ideas?

1985-GMC 02-09-2011 12:17 AM

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Very nice truck, cant wait to see the restoration!

67chevy1series 02-09-2011 12:50 AM

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thanks for the pics tail gate isnt bad at all you should see if you could wet sand the blue off of the roof and get some trim on there!

Erl 02-09-2011 03:24 PM

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Here are some motor mount pictures. My truck is completely apart, but going back together now. So, everything is exposed and available for photos.

Erl

Vintage Windmills 02-09-2011 07:27 PM

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Thanks Erl, love your truck by the way! Are the rubber mounts original? Could you get a closeup photo of them and measure the thickness?

Also, your PS pump bracket is welded like mine, is that one that you had custom made? I assume the original PS brackets were not welded. I don't think the ram assist on my truck is factory since the bracket was welded.

75gmc454 02-09-2011 09:42 PM

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Thanks for posting those pics. Yes Erl your work looks great. Everything looks original on your truck. I see now I must find some of those mounts. I would also like to find some original radiator hoses. Mine has those hoses you can use for different applications.
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75gmc454 02-09-2011 09:56 PM

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Jud, thanks for requesting the pics. They have answered some of our questions.

If you dont want that power steering I'll buy it. Lol
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Vintage Windmills 02-10-2011 12:32 AM

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Clint, there are some additional photos here in post 26. You may want to prevent him from scrapping them: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=437680&page=2

Bob B. 02-10-2011 05:29 AM

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I think I know what the problem is on the 4X4. The original V-6 motor mount used on all trucks with manual transmissions is part #2391949, and it has not been availble for some time. It looks to me like someone substituted a different mount. Here is side and bottome views of my left mount:

Bob B. 02-10-2011 05:40 AM

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Here are pictures of the side and bottom of the right side motor mount:

Bob B. 02-10-2011 06:00 AM

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I agree the engine is setting too high in the 4X4. Look at the A/C vacuum can on my truck, and see how close it is to the valve cover. It looks like the P.O. had to remove it for clearance. BTW- that bracket that goes around the upper radiator hose is for an AIR (smog) pump. V-6's in 1500's with manual transmissions sometimes came with them.

Bob B. 02-10-2011 06:25 AM

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All '67-'69 GMC V-6's in pickups came with a 2 groove pulley on the crank hub (these engines do not use a harmonic balancer). The first groove closest to the engine is for the alternator and water pump, the second groove is for the power steering pump and water pump, if equipped. There is a second single groove pulley bolted on the front for the A/C compressor. This pulley is smaller in diameter than the 2 groove pulley. Back to the motor mounts, I have been told there is a particular transmission mount that will work as a replacement. I don't have a part number for it, but you might try asking on the '60-'66 GMC V-6 website forum. I believe that is where I heard about it. Hope this helps you guys out. Bob.

75gmc454 02-10-2011 10:21 AM

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Thanks Bob for those pics and info. Your truck looks like it is very nice. It is a great color also. I can see exactly what I need to do.

I knew my truck had a smog pump because the manifolds are drilled for the air tubes.

I can see where the vacuum canister was mounted on the side of the air box.
I will do some searching to see if I can find the right mount to substitute.

Clint
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Bob B. 02-10-2011 08:16 PM

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The 'tin can' style vacuum canister has a little stamped steel bracket on it. The replacement is a plastic ball shaped canister that has the bracket molded on it. The plastic canister is still available.

75gmc454 02-10-2011 10:39 PM

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Thanks Bob. I think the canister on my truck still has the tabs on it. I can check when it gets warmer.
We got about 5 inches of snow yesterday. Here are a few pics of the 67 and since we are now in the 4x4 forum, Ill post some pics of my other 4x4's in the snow.
Here is the GMC parked in front of the house:
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q...2-10090702.jpg
When it was snowing.
Here is the 58 and the 73:
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q...eepman/145.jpg
Here is my 72
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q...pman/151-1.jpg

1985-GMC 02-10-2011 10:54 PM

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Nice! I'll take that 58 off your hands. :)

75gmc454 02-10-2011 11:04 PM

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Thanks. Man I searched for a while before I found a napco truck. Not very common around here.

bfay17 02-10-2011 11:06 PM

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I'm not really sure about the lwb trucks but I see that lmc does offer 4 leaf rear springs for the half ton 67-68 and a 5 leaf for the 3/4 ton. I havent ever owned one. Well not yet anyways.

67chevy1series 02-11-2011 12:26 AM

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beautiful trucks! all your 67 needs is trim and hub caps!

Vintage Windmills 02-11-2011 12:46 AM

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Clint, looks like your perches are good and the plate on the engine too. i think you just need the rubber mount like I do. I am also looking for the alternative part.

Bob, nice photos

75gmc454 02-11-2011 01:50 AM

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Thanks guys. Rick the 67 needs the right door and paint first. LOL

Jud if you find something let me know.

I started looking more at the paint on my truck. I can see white below the trim also. The truck was white on top, blue in the middle, and white on bottom. I think it would look good back in those colors.

75gmc454 02-11-2011 10:01 PM

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I got my rear view bracket today. Thank you Bill.
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q...pman/008-2.jpg

I also took a pic of the white paint that I found. I thought that the white was on top of the blue, but it is not. The white was there first and the blue was sprayed sometime later during a repaint.
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q...pman/007-1.jpg

67chevy1series 02-11-2011 10:12 PM

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hmmmm i was told that you could not have white below the trim on a 67 but a 68 you could a 2 tone in 67 looks like this http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3355/...c5ae967ae3.jpg the white doesnt go down on the pillars on the left and right on the window or on the doors just to let you know...at least that is what i believe..... oh well the truck looks great just a little work and the original door should be good to go!

75gmc454 02-11-2011 10:22 PM

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Yeah Rick the white is above the drip rail only. Im still not sure on the white below the trim. I will do some more close looking at the truck later.

67chevy1series 02-11-2011 10:42 PM

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alright sounds good.

Erl 02-12-2011 12:53 PM

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Here is some info on the power steering setup, it is 67 only. Bob was right about the Cal smog pump. You can send your motor mounts into Steel Rubber to have them refurbished. I also included a picture of the rear springs. That is how mine looked when I bought it. Only 2 springs.

Erl

75gmc454 02-13-2011 10:54 PM

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Thanks for the pics Erl. That ps diagram is what Jud has on his 67. I would love to find that setup for mine. That v6 is heavy.

Vintage Windmills 02-14-2011 01:43 AM

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Here is photo of my setup.

Jud

75gmc454 02-14-2011 10:40 PM

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Thanks for posting the pics Jud.

67chevy1series 02-17-2011 10:06 PM

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so what have you been doin to the 67 lately???

75gmc454 02-18-2011 10:08 PM

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Rick I have not had time to do much. I greased all of the front steering components. Mostly I have been driving it everyday between my house and my shop. It is only about a mile and a half, but the truck is made to drive. That is the fun part.

When I get more time I am going to get the engine mounts all fixed. Then I am going to switch that bent bedside and do something with the green door.

john@thepier 02-18-2011 10:32 PM

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Just thought I'd share some pictures of my 67 GMC 4x4. It has taken me years to get this far. JOHN

john@thepier 02-18-2011 10:38 PM

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More of how Roam was not built in a day. I'd bet I'll be a real old man when this one gets done. But there never done though!!

75gmc454 02-18-2011 11:02 PM

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Your truck looks like a great truck. No rust at all. You need to tell us more about it. How did it start out? Any before pics?

BobS 02-18-2011 11:36 PM

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Lookin' good, John!

john@thepier 02-18-2011 11:36 PM

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67 SWB Nevada truck air cab, bought from a board member. Original v-6 4 speed. I have made it a 400 sb turbo 400/205. Other than the motor change I'm keeping it stock suspension. Needed a small repair to the frame, a front axle was bent, rockers on cab were crushed so they were replaced. Shaved the original trim. Every bit of this truck was media blasted then hand sanded again before being epoxy coated and then painted. Tons of blocking on the panels to make them perfect. Have yet deciced on a color, leaning towards a green I seen on Tim Christensens 67 GMC. Will put vintage air in instead of stock air. Here is a picture of it as I bought it. Happy to share Thankyou for making me feel welcome. John

Vintage Windmills 02-19-2011 12:15 AM

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John,

Nice truck. did you get a build sheet or SPID with your truck? I've got a similar 67 but lwb. Is your truck a custom or CST? I'm looking for another example of Custom script badging on a 67.

Jud

1985-GMC 02-19-2011 12:20 AM

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John, do you have a build thread?


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