Re: Project Goldilocks, '66 C10 SWB BBW Build
 

It doesn't have the step on the edge like it should have. I'll post back about how well the strips fit up when I test fit everthing. I'm sure it will work, might take a little more work to line everything up before the bolts are tightened down though. The correct extra grooves let the edge of the wear strips drop down and lock in place.
Posted via Mobile Device

Re: Project Goldilocks, '66 C10 SWB BBW Build
 

nice work, & i'm tuning in for continued progress! good to see a fellow 60-66'er who is relatively in my neck of the woods, doing quality work

Re: Project Goldilocks, '66 C10 SWB BBW Build
 

Thanks! Charleston isn't too far away!


Made a little progress today. Got the front springs out and the front bag brackets and C notches blasted and painted. I had some parts to blast at work today anyways and I already had the paint so I decided to go ahead and paint them instead of waiting for powdercoat. This way I'll be able to install them sooner.

I ground the welds down on the C notch before painting.

http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...80705309_n.jpg

http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...72552476_n.jpg

http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s..._7404864_n.jpg

http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...58767776_n.jpg


The paint is still wet in this shot so it looks glossy but it'll dry out to a low gloss finish and match the frame pretty well.

http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...64518194_n.jpg


Springs out, sitting on the bump stops. Didn't realize it would sit that low!

http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...85882377_n.jpg

http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...41988072_n.jpg



Also pulled the manifolds off the 250 and this was what was inside the intake ports. Not what I wanted to find. Hopefully the block can be salvaged.

http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...14742980_n.jpg



More soon. I called and ordered the bed wear strips today and they'll be ready to pick up on monday. I'll test fit the wood floor once I get them so I can mark the fenderwell openings and perimeter holes for cutting/drilling. Then I can get the wood painted and get the bed back on the frame. I'll get the cross channels and the wear strips powdercoated before the bed goes back on the frame, and also clean and undercoat the inside of the bedsides with Duplicolor truck bed liner like I used on the blue '65. Hopefully the powdercoater doesn't take too long and I can have the bed back on in a couple weeks.

Re: Project Goldilocks, '66 C10 SWB BBW Build
 

true dat, haha...maybe one day when my truck makes its way to SC, we can meet up....

those notches look great smoothed up & painted...hope the engine works out for ya

Re: Project Goldilocks, '66 C10 SWB BBW Build
 

Re: Project Goldilocks, '66 C10 SWB BBW Build
 

Thanks! I checked out your '66, I love me some black/white custom cabs! Awesome truck!

I finally found the build specs for his engine, he's running 15.5:1 CR on methanol! I'm thinking around 13:1 with E85 should be doable and 105 octane E85 is pretty easy to find around here. Compression that high would help out with bottom end torque with a bigger cam so it would still be streetable. Just wanting something different than than a small block, everybody has those.



Got a little bit done this afternoon, worked in the yard most of the day. Flipped the frame up on its side so I could drill the bottom holes for the C notches and bag mounts. Man I hate drilling holes in steel this thick!

http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...25063624_n.jpg


Here's a mini tech tip. Put some wide tape over the part that you will be mounting (bags in my case), and mark where the holes are. Then transfer the tape and use the markings as a template to drill your holes. You can center punch the part while the tape is on there too, and I was able to peel the tape off and use it again for the other side.

http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...06124727_n.jpg


Center punched:

http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...12235501_n.jpg


And here's what the notches looked like once the paint dried, its a fairly close match to the frame.

http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...83485408_n.jpg

Re: Project Goldilocks, '66 C10 SWB BBW Build
 

Very, very nice work! I really like your attention to detail. All of that extra work will really pay off in the finished product.

Your tape template trick works well, as I have used it before. Another trick that works is to use a scrap piece of sheetmetal and double-back tape it or loop some duct tape to keep it in position.

I work in aerospace, and when we transfer holes, we use a drill bushing that has an O.D. that fits in the hole in the part (in your case, a 1/4" or .250"). The I.D. of the bushing has a small hole, usually around a .080". When you pop the holes, it's dead center in the middle, and then you remove the part and the bushing, and then step-drill to the final size. You can find drill bushings on-line in places like ebay.

A lot of times, guys fight drilling holes in steel because they try to drill the final hole size at the start. Always step drill, and work slowly. It'll save your drill bits from wearing out, and it'll keep you from breaking your fingers when the drill catches at the end. Been there, done that, but usually with a drill press. Those things can be evil

Re: Project Goldilocks, '66 C10 SWB BBW Build
 

Great tips guys. Thanks for instructing us.

Re: Project Goldilocks, '66 C10 SWB BBW Build
 

I'd never heard of drill bushings before, I'll have to look those up. Good to know! I did start out with a 3/16th hole before working up to a 3/8" bit for the air bag mounts, then 1/2" for the air line fitting, then using the air grinder and a carbide burr to open the hole up the rest of the way. I should have used a hole saw for the air line fitting; I'll know better when I do the other side though. I went slowly and used alot of pressure on the bit and kept it cool by spraying it with glass cleaner every few seconds. The bits aren't discolored or dull yet so I guess my method is working ok.


I use the looped tape trick all the time to keep masking paper/plastic in place, remembered that one from hanging up pictures of trucks I'd drawn in kindergarten :lol:

Re: Project Goldilocks, '66 C10 SWB BBW Build
 

clifford sells manifolds for mounting webbers to chey sixes. if you are serious about building a six you need to get Leo Santucci's book. those guy's in Brazil are getting 800 to 1100 horespower out of turboed 250 chevy sixes.

Re: Project Goldilocks, '66 C10 SWB BBW Build
 

well Im doing a VERY similar build.... Stock "looking" but lowered. My Little V8 will "Look" like a stock 283/327.... MUHAHAHAH.
You do AMAZING work!!
So on mine I ran CPP's shock relocators with CPP shocks... It rides AWESOME! Better than my 03 dropped half as much!

Re: Project Goldilocks, '66 C10 SWB BBW Build
 

thanks!

Re: Project Goldilocks, '66 C10 SWB BBW Build
 

Thanks, I looked on Clifford's website but only found manifolds for downdraft progressive(?) webers. I'm trying to find mani's to mount sidedraft two barrels, either Weber DCOE's or Dellorto DHLA's. Preferably Dellorto's. I'll definitly be picking up one of Stantucci's books. I'd be happy with 325-375 hp. One of the guys at work was showing me the throttle bodies off his 2011 Triumph Rocket 3 Roadster, and I may be looking into something like that also. The bike is three cylinder with individual TB's so I might could make something like that work.




Thanks dude! I'm waiting for updates on your build thread! I checked it out awhile back and love the style you're going for- that engine looks great! Good to know on the shock mounts, I'll look into those. I'm thinking about building my own, not sure yet but its good to see what others are running to get ideas

Welcome!


Got a little done last night. Went and picked up the bed wear strips from Trucks USA in Greenwood, SC (they look and fit great btw) and took the four short boards and two outer long boards home with me to mark the fenderwell openings and perimeter bolt holes. Only took a couple pics though. I should be able to get the bed wood painted this week, will have to wait til the support rails and wear strips are back from powdercoat before I can get the floor back in. Gunna scrub down the inside of the bed with steel wool and CLR while I've got the floor out to get rid of the rust stains on the tubs and flanges. I'll probably go over the paint inside the bed with some sort of cleaner wax to spiffy it up a lil bit too.

http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...24865864_n.jpg

http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...57222248_n.jpg

Re: Project Goldilocks, '66 C10 SWB BBW Build
 

Progress may be slowed up a little on my '66. Dad found a '50 Chevy in a barn about two miles from the house and bought it yesterday so I'll be helping him get it back on the road. I'll start a build thread on it once we get that far with it. Plans include a dropped axle, bias ply tires, and leave the body like it is and run it. It's got a '59 engine that was running when he parked it (brakes went out) and hopefully won't take much to get it going again.

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...98060249_n.jpg

Re: Project Goldilocks, '66 C10 SWB BBW Build
 

Nice find...

Re: Project Goldilocks, '66 C10 SWB BBW Build
 

Outstanding...have fun.

Re: Project Goldilocks, '66 C10 SWB BBW Build
 

I started cleaning up the lip around the fenderwell and bedsides last night. The lip is still the original paint, I guess the guy who painted the truck didn't want to mask out all the bolt heads so he just masked off the whole lip. I used 0000 steel wool and CLR to take the rust stains off which worked pretty good. I'll go over the whole thing with Johnson's carnuba paste wax to seal it up once I get the whole thing done. I'll have to resize the pics before I can post them, I'll edit them back in here.


Also got the backside of the wood floor painted last weekend.

http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...25528858_n.jpg

http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...55273884_n.jpg

Re: Project Goldilocks, '66 C10 SWB BBW Build
 

Couldn't figure out how to edit the post to add pics (I've done it before?) so here they are.

http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...76448107_n.jpg

http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...26983548_n.jpg


*Edit* I guess you have to edit a post within a certain amount of time or before logging out. It let me edit this one...

Re: Project Goldilocks, '66 C10 SWB BBW Build
 

nice project!!! subscribed

Re: Project Goldilocks, '66 C10 SWB BBW Build
 

Thanks!


I got the engine torn down last night. The cylinders had a touch of rust around the rings but nothing that won't clean up when its bored. The crank journals look pretty good and I can't catch any scratches/gouges with my fingernail. I used a set of numbered dies to mark the main bearing caps and the main webs in the block to keep track of their orientation before taking them off, definitly didn't want those getting mixed up. The lifter bores look really good and the lifters were nice and tight in the bore. I had been looking into putting a solid roller cam in it, but I've only found one company that will custom make them, and listed the price as "call for price". That usually means $$$$$ so I'll probably stick with solid flat lifters. Hoping for 375+ horsepower, does that seem doable with this combination of parts?

Plans for it so far include:

Bore the block enough to clean up the cylinders.
Balanced stock crank.
Lighten the flywheel.
Eagle forged 4340 rods, 5.7"
Forged pistons, haven't found any "off the shelf" yet.
Head bolt boss removed from intake port, lump port kit installed.
Larger valves, ported heads, decked for more compression.
Block decked for .040-.050 quench.
13:1ish compression (will be running E85, 105 octane)
Solid flat cam, wanting it to pull to around 7000-7200 rpm.
Comp Cams Aluminum roller rockers, 1.75 ratio.
ARP main and head stud kit.
Triple Weber/Dellorto 2 barrel side draft carbs
6 into 1 header, single 3" exhaust, magnaflow/dynomax straight through muffler?

http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...71645530_n.jpg

http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...27844299_n.jpg

Re: Project Goldilocks, '66 C10 SWB BBW Build
 

Hey Man give Doug a call... he can cut you a cam to whatever spec you want. Roller too!
877-497-2787 Ask for Bruce, tell em Kasey sent ya... He'll hook you up!!

Re: Project Goldilocks, '66 C10 SWB BBW Build
 

They can help with Pistons too!

Re: Project Goldilocks, '66 C10 SWB BBW Build
 

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Chevrolet-C-K...t_39120wt_1270

This link is a '69 same colors as yours, sure looks great. Good luck with the 6 refresh.

Re: Project Goldilocks, '66 C10 SWB BBW Build
 

Thanks Malibu! I'll look into that once I get that far with the project. I've found a rebuilt 292 that I'll run for now til the 250 is built.


That is a beautimous truck! Thanks for posting that link!

Re: Project Goldilocks, '66 C10 SWB BBW Build
 

Since we're on the subject of look-alike trucks, here's a pic of one I found on ebay that's a similar color. I also did a rough lowering job with MS paint. I posted some pics in the photoshop thread hoping someone would be able to drop it and swap 18's with stock caps on it, no luck yet.

Re: Project Goldilocks, '66 C10 SWB BBW Build
 

Got the rest of the bed floor support rails out tonight, no pics but they'd be pretty boring to look at anyways. Gunna take them and the new strips to the powdercoater monday and hopefully they'll be done within a couple weeks. That should give me time to get the wood painted and the bed sides undercoated before it all goes back in, that is if its warm enough! All the work on the bed has been done under an open shed so far, and its been gettin pretty cold once it gets dark so I'll probably start loading it up and hauling it to our shop when I work on it. My VW doesn't have heat so it'll be nice to get to drive this thing through the winter next year!
Posted via Mobile Device

Re: Project Goldilocks, '66 C10 SWB BBW Build
 

Here ya go.... all you had to do was ask... GOSH! :smoke:

Re: Project Goldilocks, '66 C10 SWB BBW Build
 

Now I just got to make the real truck match that! Thanks so much!!
Posted via Mobile Device

Re: Project Goldilocks, '66 C10 SWB BBW Build
 

Not much to report. I've been sick the past week so no progress other than having alot of time for planning and researching.

I've decided to cup the lower control arms to get the bags into their design height at ride height. I've noticed alot of trucks running upper plates and lower cups with larger bags like my D2600's don't have enough heigth for the bag to be properly extended at ride height. Cupping the LCA's will gain about 2.5" more bag height than using bag cups in the factory spring pocket. I've found a pair of LCA's locally so I don't have to cut up the original LCA's. This mod should gain a better riding and handling truck.

I'm also planning on tearing the frame back down to paint and detail it. The powdercoat wasn't applied thick enough in places, especially around brackets and tight areas- thin enough that its already getting a thin coat of surface rust in places. I can spot blast the thin spots, then prep and paint the frame with a few coats of low gloss black enamel. I've been very impressed with Valspar's Tractor and Impement enamel for it's durability and finish quality so I'll pick up a gallon and hardener from Tractor Supply. I know its just going to be a driver, and it should be low enough that nobody's going to be looking under it but I'm more concerned about the frame being protected properly. I'll paint the bed floor strips insted of getting them powdercoated since I haven't been real happy with the quality of work I've seen from our local powdercoater lately, including the truck frame.

It's alot more work but it'll be worth it once it's all back together.
Posted via Mobile Device

Re: Project Goldilocks, '66 C10 SWB BBW Build
 

Here's a shot of one of the rusted areas. It's not that bad but I don't want it getting worse.

http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...0/585f4ca3.jpg

Re: Project Goldilocks, '66 C10 SWB BBW Build
 

Oh Id be flipping out! As expensive as powdercoating is... that wouldnt fly! I used the tractor implement paint on mine.... been driving it for awhile and it holds up great! I used gloss black just because it cleans easier. and with being a driver.... thats needed!

Re: Project Goldilocks, '66 C10 SWB BBW Build
 

The place that did it is actually pretty cheap. They did a VW frame (welded in floorpans= lots of surface area) and all of the suspension a few years ago for us and charged $300 bucks- and thats for blasting and powdercoating. They prep everything well enough, but just didn't get enough powder on the frame. I still shouldn't have to go back and redo it though.

I like gloss black and it is easier to clean, but scrubbing it would make spiderweb/swirlmark type scratches and that would drive me crazy. I hate fine scratches worse than deep scratches. I used to detail cars when I was in high school and swirl marks or towel marks drive me insane! I don't care they're on a hood, or trailing arm, or an air filter lid, I see them and it makes me want to polish them out so bad... satin paint helps me keep my sanity.

Re: Project Goldilocks, '66 C10 SWB BBW Build
 

lol, you sound just like me...i'd rather have a big gash in the paint rather than some small blemish such as scratches/swirls/chips...same with dents, i'd rather have a huge one rather than those little ones...drives me nuts too! i'm fighting the urge to paint my S-10 satin black...i had my old custom '93 C-1500 in a show quality gloss at one point...after some modifications & messing up the paint, i put it in 2-tone tinted primer...it was so much easier to maintain & much easier on my sanity as well, :lol: don't get me wrong tho, cuz i love seeing a beautiful, deep glossy paintjob

sucks about the powdercoat though...have you told them what happened, or will you just let it slide?

Re: Project Goldilocks, '66 C10 SWB BBW Build
 

They do good prep work and have done quality work in the past so I'd like to be able to use them again. If I do take anything else to them I'll definitly mention that the frame didn't get good coverage and that I'd like for them to spend a little extra time making sure everything is coated well.

Re: Project Goldilocks, '66 C10 SWB BBW Build
 

subscribed....for educational purposes!



:lol:

Re: Project Goldilocks, '66 C10 SWB BBW Build
 

For the stuff you build id take that back and say hey....fix this...

Re: Project Goldilocks, '66 C10 SWB BBW Build
 

Hang around, you'll learn that I usually don't know what I'm doing! :lol:




They'd re-do it if I asked them to, no doubt; they're stand up dudes. I'll paint it though, might even spot blast around the rivets and weld up all the rivet heads to stiffen up the frame. I'm also thinking about building some bolt in round tube crossmembers to minimize frame flex/twist. That should make the truck ride/handle better and have a more solid feel. If I paint it I can add the braces later and paint them to match and the texture/sheen will match. Gotta have matching sheen on all the chassis parts! I can also prep the frame myself, spot prime and wetsand it first to get it slick. Then seal the seams and shoot a few coats of paint.

Dang project cars! I keep getting deeper and deeper into this thing!
Posted via Mobile Device

Re: Project Goldilocks, '66 C10 SWB BBW Build
 

well...what ever it is then...... it seems to be working!

Re: Project Goldilocks, '66 C10 SWB BBW Build
 

I got the rear bags finished up today. At their minimum design height I'm not sure it'll sit as low as I want for the ride height so I may add two inch blocks to lower it without collapsing the bags under their design height. I definitly don't see how guys are using these bags with cups unless they want a near stock ride height.


Aired up.

http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...t/4120d496.jpg

http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...t/f07640ef.jpg


Aired out. Should sit slightly lower once the weight of the bed is on the frame

http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...t/0ded3b49.jpg

http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...t/e189d8ba.jpg


More frame rust.

http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...t/fba70949.jpg

http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...t/bf18ebeb.jpg

http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...t/05f3d463.jpg


What's with all that mess on the floor?

http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...t/7ee1402b.jpg


Might have something to do with this?

http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...t/3167c529.jpg


Yep, I decided to box the frame rails. The truck won't ever get finished if I keep heaping more and more on the "to do" list! This will strengthen the frame and make it easier to mount the X member. The front will be boxed up to the steering box but I'll need to figure out a way to keep the crossmember and control arm hardware accessible.

http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...t/4961a4ae.jpg

http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...t/8dd9bb11.jpg


Unfortunately after all that hard work, adding the cardboard plates didn't add as much structural rigidity as I had hoped they would. And after thinking about it more, if they ever got wet they'd lose some of their strength, so I decided I'll have to step up and get 1/8" plate cut to fit and welded in. Better not take any short cuts at this point, right? :lol:

I've been researching X member designs and found one that I like. It's got a solid tube as the center section. Round tubing is very strong against torsional twisting so this design should limit frame flex better than an open square shaped design. I'll start a separate thread on X member designs and frame bracing to get more input before I decide on a final design. Also planning on using my tubing roller to arch the main tubes of the X member for more strength.

http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/s...t/1ba6f387.jpg
Posted via Mobile Device

Re: Project Goldilocks, '66 C10 SWB BBW Build
 

Since you are not going to use the cardboard, can I have it?
I will run out and get a bottle of Elmers Glue and be in business!!