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Snowbound 10-23-2012 11:26 PM

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Could you post up some shots of your engine mounts? Curious what the differences are from your V8 to my L6 mounts are.

Started a build thread finally, since you were prodding me, LOL.

Brian

clemdaddy 10-24-2012 08:36 AM

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man, that trans is too cool. new motor, new trans...wow.
you going hyd. clutch or mech.? changing gears? posi?
nice work!

CRGRS 66 10-24-2012 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Snowbound (Post 5664663)
Could you post up some shots of your engine mounts? Curious what the differences are from your V8 to my L6 mounts are.

Started a build thread finally, since you were prodding me, LOL.

Brian

Will try to get you ssome pictures at lunch today. I will have a look for your thread, and start creeping you too:lol:

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Originally Posted by clemdaddy (Post 5665026)
man, that trans is too cool. new motor, new trans...wow.
you going hyd. clutch or mech.? changing gears? posi?
nice work!

sticking with the mechanical clutch, sticking with the stock gears (believe they are 3.73), first gear ratio is very close to the original 3speed, overdrive gear should make highway driving... a little more bearable and fuel efficient. Thanks for the comp too!

McMurphy 10-24-2012 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowbound (Post 5664663)
Could you post up some shots of your engine mounts? Curious what the differences are from your V8 to my L6 mounts are.

Started a build thread finally, since you were prodding me, LOL.

Brian

Brian on this page of my build there is a lay out photo of the 2 different frame mounts.
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...487100&page=12
Hope this helps.

Greg63 10-24-2012 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowbound (Post 5664663)
Could you post up some shots of your engine mounts? Curious what the differences are from your V8 to my L6 mounts are.

Started a build thread finally, since you were prodding me, LOL.

Brian

I have often wondered what the difference in frame mounts were between 6cyl and 8 cyl.
Back in 1982 I simply took off the engine mounts that were on my original 230 c.i., bolted them onto my 350 (long gone) and bolted both sides to the original frame mounts - without relocating or replacing them.

30 years later I still am running the same mounts.
Greg.

CRGRS 66 10-25-2012 11:47 PM

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Kind of excited today, picked up my 350, got it onto the engine stand. Just need to drop the tranny, and pull the O'l 283 out. Curious to see how the flywheel looks, assume it needs to be resurfaced, hope there aren't any cracks. Will be plopping the 283 on the skid that the 350 came out of, then it is time to tear down the front suspension, and prep the frame and firewall for paint.

notsolo 10-26-2012 07:33 AM

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Sweet Score Craig ...Off to great start, black and white under the hood too.... When you get ready for cab insulation this is what I used.. Fat Man under this closed cell foam from EZ Cool .. www.lobucrod.com.. Probably over kill but it is nice.....Ed

darkhorse970 10-26-2012 08:00 AM

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Nice build you've got going, I'm in.
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CRGRS 66 10-26-2012 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by notsolo (Post 5668520)
Sweet Score Craig ...Off to great start, black and white under the hood too.... When you get ready for cab insulation this is what I used.. Fat Man under this closed cell foam from EZ Cool .. www.lobucrod.com.. Probably over kill but it is nice.....Ed

Thanks! The engine will actually be painted chevy orange. Thanks for the tip on the insulation, looks/sounds like a great product, and the price is right too.

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Nice build you've got going, I'm in.
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Thanks for noticin!

Manny063011 10-26-2012 10:25 AM

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Just checked out your thread, looking good! Man i bet its freezing up in canada right now. ill be keeping a eye out on your thread! oh and chevy orange FTW! :metal:

CRGRS 66 10-26-2012 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Manny063011 (Post 5668706)
Just checked out your thread, looking good! Man i bet its freezing up in canada right now. ill be keeping a eye out on your thread! oh and chevy orange FTW! :metal:

Thanks Manny, hope I don't disappoint... chevy orange FTW "for the win", not sure I get that, but I will take it:lol:

It went up to 72F here yesterday, more like 55-60 today, the nasty temps are comin though!

CRGRS 66 10-29-2012 05:30 PM

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Well, I got a lot accomplished on my extra long weekend. It helps to have a friend in the shop who listens, kinda wish Humphrey would pitch in here or there though:lol:

In between playing hockey myself, coaching my kids team, and going to watch my step son's Junior "C" hockey game, I got the engine/transmission out, and the front suspension and steering ripped off. It doesn't sound like much, but this IS my first rodeo, so I am learning as I go. I hadn't planned on removing the cross member, but it seemed a good idea to get it off and get it sand blasted. Would have been a nasty, time consuming job to prep that for paint in place. It was remarkably easy actually.

jsdoyle 10-29-2012 05:32 PM

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Going to look great!
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CRGRS 66 10-29-2012 05:34 PM

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missed the main shot...

Also, question for you guys... is the cross brace that is pictured supposed to be shaped like that?

The picture of the frame with the back of the blade against it doesn't really show it very well, but in front of where the steering box mounts there is quite an indentation in the frame. This is not normal either I presume (more evidence of the collision that I suspect took place at the front drivers corner)

CRGRS 66 10-29-2012 05:36 PM

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Craigerrrrr is ready for beer now:ito:

Snowbound 10-29-2012 07:06 PM

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The crossmember is bent down. Should be level, as that is where the 6 cyl rad mounts. Interesting the holes appear to be missing.
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CRGRS 66 10-29-2012 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jsdoyle (Post 5674880)
Going to look great!
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Hopin so! Thanks

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Originally Posted by Snowbound (Post 5675044)
The crossmember is bent down. Should be level, as that is where the 6 cyl rad mounts. Interesting the holes appear to be missing.
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This is an original 283 truck, not sure about the 6 cyl rad mount holes. If you look you will see the rad support saddle(s) at the top of that picture.

63sbssbbw 10-29-2012 08:48 PM

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The x-m should have holes for both
So, yeah that's kind of strange.
Mine had a similar bend in it.nothing the BFH won't fix.
That framerail bow is different!
I assume the frame is square ??(+- 1/8").
It may interfere with your PS conversion plates(or not?),just something to watch for.
Looking good so far Craig
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Ta2Don 10-29-2012 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CRGRS 66 (Post 5674877)
Well, I got a lot accomplished on my extra long weekend. It helps to have a friend in the shop who listens, kinda wish Humphrey would pitch in here or there though:lol:

In between playing hockey myself, coaching my kids team, and going to watch my step son's Junior "C" hockey game, I got the engine/transmission out, and the front suspension and steering ripped off. It doesn't sound like much, but this IS my first rodeo, so I am learning as I go. I hadn't planned on removing the cross member, but it seemed a good idea to get it off and get it sand blasted. Would have been a nasty, time consuming job to prep that for paint in place. It was remarkably easy actually.

Keep up the great work, looks and sounds like you are having as much fun with your build as I am with mine...

MARTYZ 10-31-2012 08:37 PM

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Looking good CRGRS. little late getting on board just found your thread.For your first rodeo you are motoring along like a pro.
Not far from Cambridge or Newmarket either,should find a show next summer we can all go to.

chad64chevy 10-31-2012 09:11 PM

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craig, the radiator support member being bent, i would guess the po might have put a tow hook there were the hole is to have somewhere to hook too, and bent it! the frame indent were the steering box was i wouldnt worry about it either! usless the frame is bent and you can take cross measurements to check that! i wouldnt worry about it, if you get the power steering bracket from captfab. and weld it in then that will be fine!! your truck is in alot better shape then some peoples trucks are, alot better then mine, lol!! anyways good to see some progress on the truck, have the other new parts came in yet??

Captainfab 11-01-2012 12:43 AM

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That slight dent in the frame is likely from the bumper taking an impact, as the bumper brace is bolted to the frame in that area. If you can straighten it out, good, if not I wouldn't worry too much about it..As long as the steering box area is not bent.

CRGRS 66 11-01-2012 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 63sbssbbw (Post 5675219)
The x-m should have holes for both
So, yeah that's kind of strange.
Mine had a similar bend in it.nothing the BFH won't fix.
That framerail bow is different!
I assume the frame is square ??(+- 1/8").
It may interfere with your PS conversion plates(or not?),just something to watch for.
Looking good so far Craig
T

Haven't measured anything, not too worried about either anomally.

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Originally Posted by Ta2Don (Post 5675417)
Keep up the great work, looks and sounds like you are having as much fun with your build as I am with mine...

I am, thanks!

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Originally Posted by MARTYZ (Post 5678653)
Looking good CRGRS. little late getting on board just found your thread.For your first rodeo you are motoring along like a pro.
Not far from Cambridge or Newmarket either,should find a show next summer we can all go to.

Welcome aboard, yes, we should figure out a show or two, maybe a cruise night or two as well.

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Originally Posted by chad64chevy (Post 5678706)
craig, the radiator support member being bent, i would guess the po might have put a tow hook there were the hole is to have somewhere to hook too, and bent it! the frame indent were the steering box was i wouldnt worry about it either! usless the frame is bent and you can take cross measurements to check that! i wouldnt worry about it, if you get the power steering bracket from captfab. and weld it in then that will be fine!! your truck is in alot better shape then some peoples trucks are, alot better then mine, lol!! anyways good to see some progress on the truck, have the other new parts came in yet??

Chadwick, be patient Mr.:lol:

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Originally Posted by Captainfab (Post 5679051)
That slight dent in the frame is likely from the bumper taking an impact, as the bumper brace is bolted to the frame in that area. If you can straighten it out, good, if not I wouldn't worry too much about it..As long as the steering box area is not bent.

Thanks Captain, still debating on what to do about power steering

CRGRS 66 11-02-2012 07:38 PM

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I was expecting my CPP goods yesterday, but the truck was delayed. Figured it would be next Tuesday, but low and behold there it was today. Very exciting... cardboard boxes and all you know:lol: Anyway, front and rear sway bars, 2.5" drop spindles, rotors, calipers, hardware, booster/MC/Prop Valve, hoses, 2" drop springs and matching shocks. Going to leave this stuff in the boxes until I am ready for it:metal:

CRGRS 66 11-02-2012 07:47 PM

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I am considering this steering box from Truck Shop, what do you guys think... (especially you captain;)) Not having much luck finding a used one in a wrecking yard north of the 49th, and bringing stuff up from the good old USA would prove especially difficult from a wrecking yard.

jsdoyle 11-02-2012 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CRGRS 66 (Post 5682103)
I was expecting my CPP goods yesterday, but the truck was delayed. Figured it would be next Tuesday, but low and behold there it was today. Very exciting... cardboard boxes and all you know:lol: Anyway, front and rear sway bars, 2.5" drop spindles, rotors, calipers, hardware, booster/MC/Prop Valve, hoses, 2" drop springs and matching shocks. Going to leave this stuff in the boxes until I am ready for it:metal:

Oooh! Nice! Early Christmas!
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CRGRS 66 11-19-2012 04:43 PM

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It has been a while. I have not had much time for the truck of late, but have been plugging away at a few things. I have most of the caked on grease and grime off of the front cross member, and control arms. Have started rust removal on the front part of the frame. Have been doing some detail work on my inst cluster, and some other progress on other odd jobs. Expecting an order from Classic Parts, and from my porterbuilt parts for the rear suspension in tomorrow. Will be placing an order with Advanced Auto Parts tonight for ps box, ps pump, pitman arm, clutch pack, and distributor. Not much point in a pictures right now, just wanted you guys to know that I am still alive and kicking!

MisterC 11-19-2012 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CRGRS 66 (Post 5711215)
It has been a while. I have not had much time for the truck of late, but have been plugging away at a few things. Not much point in a pictures right now, just wanted you guys to know that I am still alive and kicking!

Phew! That's actually good to hear. At the feverish pace you had been keeping, you were making us all look bad.:lol:

Great progress so far. Can't wait to see it take its new shape.

clemdaddy 11-20-2012 09:14 PM

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its really not a bad thing to slow down every now and then.
especially when the days get so short its dark when you go to work and dark when you get home. i strongly dislike this time of year, short days and the cold and all, but the holidays makes it all ok.

happy holidays man, looks like santa came early.

CRGRS 66 11-21-2012 04:34 PM

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Surprised I didn't see this at disassembly! JB Weld won't fix this, I will have to get a buddy to weld this up for me.

I have a stock pile of parts now that need to be sandblasted or glass bead blasted. I am going tohave to get my sandblast booth put together this weekend.

To all my American freinds, I wish you all a very happy Thanksgiving (ours was last month:canada:). Be safe in your travels!

Ta2Don 11-21-2012 05:00 PM

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Gotta love those hidden surprises!
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MARTYZ 11-21-2012 08:21 PM

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CRGR, Can probably find you a replacement if you like, few donor trucks around up here, Doug Currie at Markdale Salvage, Markdale Ont. would have one for sure. Let me know if I can help you out.

CRGRS 66 11-21-2012 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MARTYZ (Post 5715480)
CRGR, Can probably find you a replacement if you like, few donor trucks around up here, Doug Currie at Markdale Salvage, Markdale Ont. would have one for sure. Let me know if I can help you out.

That would be awesome! Thanks for the offer! I am looking at it a bit closer and thinking that repairing this one may not be the best idea. If you would check on that and let me know I could pay for it over the phone and ship it using my company's PURO account (passenger side).

McMurphy 11-21-2012 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MARTYZ (Post 5715480)
CRGR, Can probably find you a replacement if you like, few donor trucks around up here, Doug Currie at Markdale Salvage, Markdale Ont. would have one for sure. Let me know if I can help you out.

Both of mine are outside waiting to go to the boneyard...(I did the front end swap for the disc brakes)
Not sure what the shipping would be on them, but you are welcome to them.

Snowbound 11-22-2012 02:38 AM

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I can't believe there are no good wrecking yards around there. The pick and pull here is littered with '73-87 trucks and vans. A few older ones show up once in a while too.

I'd ship one to you, but it would get pretty pricey!

Brian
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chad64chevy 11-22-2012 08:57 AM

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craigerr, i would replace that lower control arm! happy late thanksgiving, if last month was halloween for us, what was it for you, eh??? lol!! keep the progress coming i need some motovation, well that an good weather, lol!!

CRGRS 66 11-22-2012 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by McMurphy (Post 5715804)
Both of mine are outside waiting to go to the boneyard...(I did the front end swap for the disc brakes)
Not sure what the shipping would be on them, but you are welcome to them.

Thanks but the other issue is customs. sounds like MARTYZ may be able to fix me up, he is less than 2 hours from me, could always head his way after work one day.

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I can't believe there are no good wrecking yards around there. The pick and pull here is littered with '73-87 trucks and vans. A few older ones show up once in a while too.
I'd ship one to you, but it would get pretty pricey!
Brian
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There aren't any in my direct vicinity, everyone in the busy part of south western Ontario crushes anything that they can't make a quick buck on.

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craigerr, i would replace that lower control arm! happy late thanksgiving, if last month was halloween for us, what was it for you, eh??? lol!! keep the progress coming i need some motovation, well that an good weather, lol!!

I agree, and I will, thanks Chad... April Fools maybe????

MARTYZ 11-22-2012 03:41 PM

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That would be awesome! Thanks for the offer! I am looking at it a bit closer and thinking that repairing this one may not be the best idea. If you would check on that and let me know I could pay for it over the phone and ship it using my company's PURO account (passenger side).

Will do, see what I can come up with probably get back to you first of the week,New grand daughter arrived today so have some family visiting to do.

Bomp 11-23-2012 10:17 AM

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Surprised I didn't see this at disassembly! JB Weld won't fix this, I will have to get a buddy to weld this up for me.

Buying a welder in your near future? Happy be-lated Holidays.

Captainfab 11-24-2012 03:10 AM

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Sorry I missed this.

I don't have any experience with those steering boxes. I typically either get a good used one, or one from the parts store. Have you checked with your local auto parts store on a rebuilt one?


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Originally Posted by CRGRS 66 (Post 5682122)
I am considering this steering box from Truck Shop, what do you guys think... (especially you captain;)) Not having much luck finding a used one in a wrecking yard north of the 49th, and bringing stuff up from the good old USA would prove especially difficult from a wrecking yard.



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