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Great build Kevin, one of my favorites...keep the info coming!
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Definitely go to the 3.73's!
Those 4.10 still scream,... unless you drive 55 mph everywhere you go.

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4.10s really work well with the NV. if that is even an idea you are considering, i would do that. if not, you probably will be best off with 3.73s. if you will be pulling trailers much at all, i would really consider the NV route with 4.10s

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I appreciate the nice comments from all of you fellas.

As far as the NV4500 thing goes. I'm not leaning that way simply due to the cost. The NV4500 is in such demand lately that the prices are being held pretty high. I could do gears for significantly cheaper than the OD swap. Plus, the SM465 that I have now is my favorite transmission. Can't anyone say they aren't strong and reliable.

I suspect I'll wind up dragging the 4.10 rearend out from under the workbench and tune it up. I could do that pretty cheaply and it would certainly help drop my revs at cruising speed.

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Thank you for that link. I just ran the numbers and going from 4.56 to 4.10 will drop my revs by 300 at 60 miles per hour.

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Sent you a PM about the 14 bolt...

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Slow progress here lately. My wife drug me to Mexico for some stupid sit on the beach crap. After I finally got that horsesh1t out of the way, I could come home and work on trucks again.

Today I started to get the bellhousing ready to install.

Of course, it started off like all of them, greasy and nasty. That took a bit of scrubbing to get it clean.

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The Advance Adapter bracket interferes with the threaded bung where the factory linkage pivot ball screws in to. I had to grind that back some to get the clearance for the bolt holes to line up.

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Then to glass bead blast it and powdercoat. I used this neat powder that makes it look like freshly blasted aluminum, which is quite handy for old stained aluminum castings.

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Close up of where I had to grind and sand to get the clearance for the AA bracket.

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Then to double check all of the bolt holes with a tap and screw the pivot ball into place with loctite. New grade 8 bolts for the trans and bell housing mounting too.

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Great work! I love the attention to detail!

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Wow, looks like new!
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My truck has 3:73 gears and with 4,500lbs on the back it'll idle along at 1600 doing 80MPH.

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Nice work! I like your attention to detail. Powdercoating looks awesome!

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Short update for today. I spent most of the day powdercoating some wheels for a fellow who is building a neat 53 Ford F100. Since I had the gun loaded with gloss black and the shop was already dirty, I decided to work a little personal project into the workflow.

The bellhousing came with a clutch lever which I'm hoping to use when I swap the bellhousing. But, it needed some real help before I'd be ready to use it.

Notice the giant grooves worn into the ears there....

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The grooves were worn so deep that the ears had bent under the pressure since the material was ground so thin.

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First step is to straighten the bent ears. Out comes the Crescent wrench and the bench vice.

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Then weld up the worn areas and sand smooth with a flap wheel.

Now, remember I said I already had the gun loaded with black powder ? An extra part hanging in the oven never hurt anything so...

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One more part ready to go. One piece at a time. Hopefully when the time comes, I'll have all my ducks in a row.

I'm kind of dragging my feet on the bellhousing R&R. I'm going to do a lot of interior work at the same time (reason why will become obvious when I get to that point) so I have a lot of stuff to round up and decisions to make.

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thats such a nice thing the advance adapter bracket !

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Your powder work is better than the "pro" shops around here. Awsome job!

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I appreciate the comment Karl. I put my work up against anyone, but I just hate being a business man so I prefer to just not do much of it.

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That all looks great. At least you got the "RIGHT" side of that Honda Trail bike the "RIGHT" school! :lol:

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Those parts look fantastic... job well done!

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Wow, that looks awesome! I have an old Honda Passport scooter I should bring up there for powder coating. It's got sort of a patina look going on right now.
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Little update...

I'm sick as a dog. I'm lucky enough to have both type B flu and strep throat at the same time. So, the doctor has me on absolute bed rest. Fortunately, my wife is gone to work and the UPS delivery came today so I was able to cheat for a few minutes without anyone knowing. I hope you guys won't tell on me.

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They are the cheap priced Summit brand ones, but the stickers on the backs are Phoenix brand which are the expensive name brand ones.

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The sickness is catching up to me though and I didn't have enough energy to put any Armor-All on the tires.

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Won't the wife notice the new bling and question you about how they got there? Take care man. Looks good.

On another note, the "expensive name brand" ones are made in China?

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I was pretty much kidding about the wife finding out. I'm a pretty grouchy bastard and she knows better than to try and mother me when it comes to my health. Whenever a woman tries to nag me about something, I tend to usually do the opposite thing to the extreme.

As far as the China deal....

We use Phoenix brand simulators on all our ambulances at work. They're the expensive ones. When you price them, they run about double what these Summit brand ones do.

The Phoenix logo...

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The logo on the Summit ones...

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Looks good. Hope you feel better...I hate being sick...

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I am happy to report that with the shiny new wheel simulators the truck gets better mileage, burns less oil, hauls more weight, and even some of the hail dents popped out.

Not really, but it's definitely earning it's keep like I hoped it would. I still have a long way to go before it's fixed up nice enough to please me but the truck has good bones underneath it so it's just a matter of continuing to plug away at it till it's real solid and slick.

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Other than the bellhousing, I'm thinking I'll try to pick up a decent hood for the truck and shoot it white and stick it on there. The present hood has a crack in the front of it, is beat up, and obviously is paint challenged. I know the new painted hood won't match perfectly, but it can't look as bad at the hood on it now does.

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A Deweze bale grabber would be slick on your rig.

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Lord, don't I know it. I hate having to roll those flat bottomed bastards off. The freakin animals are always up there trying to eat the stuff right off the bed and I'm pushing, shoving, and cussing trying to get it to roll off onto the ground.

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haha, about 10mph in reverse and stand on the brakes.....

i generally run a rope around the bale to a good post/rea pole and drive out from under it.

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I was just thinking of that this morning. I'm going to weld a tie down on the back edge of the bed in the center. Then I can hook a chain to it and lay it out forward so they set the bale on top of the chain. Then when it comes time to unload, just throw the chain over the top of the bale and tie it off to something and yank.

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just ran across this thread. LOVE your truck!
There's an 86' C30 dually crew cab (454, AT) at our Ranch that I've been working on so it's been fun watching the improvements you've made to yours.

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Kevin, I have a decent white hood, too. I had a left fender, but I think it might have walked off. Next time you are over this way, come get it.

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I'd like to have the hood. If you keep supplying me parts I'll have to change the name to the Tx Firefighter/Jonboy build thread.

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Do you have an engine oil cooler setup? Our ranch truck does. Leaking rubber lines like everyone else's so I read.

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At least someone is getting some building done. I'm a quitter.....

The hood has been over at the warehouse I store my junk at. It's just a few minutes from the house. Let me know when you are over this way. I don't think it's going anywhere soon.

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No oil cooler on this one. I agree about the leaks. The dually I had before this one was a 94 model with a 454 and I wound up putting some money into replacing both hoses and all of the connector ends.

I'll have to figure out how to put something together. I could nearly buy a new hood for the cost of fuel driving the dually over there. Will need to figure out an alternative transport method. Regardless, I'll give you plenty of notice beforehand.

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Thinking of cutting off the crimps, getting hose from a hydraulic store and putting worm gear hose clamps on. I hear even the replacement dealer or Dorman hoses leak again quickly.


Will have to review your steering gear box resealing - probably going to do that to ours in the near future.

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Which side are you guys having issues with as far as leaks?

My CC dually had an aftermarket set-up @ the heat exchanger side & OE GM adapter @ the block. It had rubber hose w/barbed fittings & typical worm gear style clamps @ the heat exchanger side to alum lines & compression fittings @ the adapter side.

When I did the motor rebuild, I tossed the previous heat-exchanger & related parts (didn't want to worry about trash screwing up the fresh motor) & installed the same style (kit) w/new alum lines, new compression fittings, new rubber hose, & new barbed fittings (I re-used the GM adapter @ the block). For symmetry, I also did a duplicate heat-exchanger arrangement for the trans.

I didn't have leaks before & hoping I don't now....

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Mine are at the crimps to the rubber hose - both ends.
Seems to be a common problem. Don't know if the rubber flows out of the way over time due to hot oil contact or what.

Most replace with factory parts but I read one post where a guy cut off the crimps and used standard hose clamps to eliminate the leaks.

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Again, this truck has no cooler, but my 94 did. It had the kind with threaded fittings into the block with quick connects rather than the sandwich adapter under the oil filter. It was all leaking so I bought two new lines for it and new quick connects to screw into the block and the trouble went away. I have since sold the truck to an oilfield welder and he puts about 5k plus miles per month on it (a 454 at 9 mpg...ouch) and it still doesn't leak.

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Not much new to report on this truck right now. It's been too busy earning its keep.

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What's the plan for the step bed?