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Scooterbilt 01-02-2014 11:12 PM

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Ok guys, we got to work on the ole truck some.

82ccshorty 01-02-2014 11:13 PM

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Looking good. Going to be sweet when it's finished

Scooterbilt 01-02-2014 11:14 PM

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Does anyone know if the C50 front axle is narrower than the C60? And if so by how much?

jonzcustomshop 01-03-2014 01:01 AM

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my 1960 sales mans data book shows c50-c80 all with the 75 7/8 front tread; that includes the c and l designations... in 60 some of the c's had independent front suspension (torsion bar) , but I am pretty sure all the l's were straight axle/leaf... at least the couple 61's I have seen were that way...

Scooterbilt 01-03-2014 01:07 AM

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Thanks Jonz, Do you know if and straight axles are narrower than that? I can cut the one I have, but I'd much rather buy one if I can.

MattBMiller 01-03-2014 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Scooterbilt (Post 6447708)
Does anyone know if the C50 front axle is narrower than the C60? And if so by how much?

I can measure my 71 if you need to know

Scooterbilt 01-03-2014 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MattBMiller (Post 6448733)
I can measure my 71 if you need to know

Please do. Thank you

Scott

MattBMiller 01-03-2014 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Scooterbilt (Post 6448744)
Please do. Thank you

Scott

Right at 62" at the top of the king pins.

Scooterbilt 01-04-2014 03:04 AM

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Ok, That'S The Same As The One I Have. I Need One Roughly 8" Narrower.

lmdangerous 01-09-2014 05:08 PM

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Ever thought about cutting the axle? I have cut three.If the welder knows what they are doing the axle will brake somewhere else before the weld does. Cut in the center and remove 4 inches from each side. Spring pads are easy enough to duplicate. Just a thought.AND for the record if I have not told you this is one cool build. Any chance that you have another snub nose front cap around. I have a nast idea in my head.
LMD

Scooterbilt 01-09-2014 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by lmdangerous (Post 6462188)
Ever thought about cutting the axle? I have cut three.If the welder knows what they are doing the axle will brake somewhere else before the weld does. Cut in the center and remove 4 inches from each side. Spring pads are easy enough to duplicate. Just a thought.AND for the record if I have not told you this is one cool build. Any chance that you have another snub nose front cap around. I have a nast idea in my head.
LMD

Yes, I was planning on cutting it from the beginning. I just though heck if I could buy a narrower one it would save a bunch of time. I am a pretty good welder I have been doing it for a long time. But, I have never cut an axle down. What is the best way to go about it, and do you have any pictures of the 3 you have cut?

Scott

Scooterbilt 01-09-2014 08:23 PM

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We have the engine coupling figured out. We are going to do it so that they can be disconnected and only run the back engine when running down the highway. Our version of chevy's displacement on demand! lol

Southcity 01-09-2014 08:24 PM

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This video/episode from *gulp* Xtreme 4x4 has some decent info about cutting an axle

http://www.powerblocktv.com/episodes...j-jeep-part-ii

Scooterbilt 01-09-2014 08:34 PM

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The axle I need to cut is a heavy duty solid front axle.

Flat 67 01-09-2014 09:27 PM

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Scooter,

Take a look at this link. Granted your axle is so much bigger but maybe the same principles will apply.

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...g+an+beam+axle


BTW, great project..........Flat67

lmdangerous 01-09-2014 10:08 PM

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I cut a 55 truck axle (2 ton ) for an equipment trailer to haul a small dozer around and also the axles in both of my race cars. Get an exact center and remove the amount needed equally. You need to narrow it 8 inches. After cutting at the located centerline remove 4 from each side. Grind each side to a tapered section and use 1 inch piece of flat bar that fits in each groove front and back. Then start laying one fillet weld at a time. Make sure you have a welder that has the heat range / rating needed. Translation bigger is better. I actually used an arco industrial mig welder.
There is also a article that shows how to cut down a c30 heavy duty axle for a one tone on the stovebolt web site. It shows several pictures and how to put everything in the jig. Pretty nice article.
Lmd

lmdangerous 01-09-2014 10:13 PM

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The article on the stovebolt was done to convert a 3800 to heavy duty disc brakes and keep the I beam front axle. The process will be the same. Check it out on the stovebolt site. I did the same thing. It's not as uncommon as you think. Don't have any pictures other than the axle under the race car. But the stovebolt site has several nice photos. Again check it out.

buggy5872 01-09-2014 11:54 PM

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How about an isuzu npr axle. I believe the track width is around 65" I have big bertha on that type of chassis. It is 6 bolt pattern the same as old trucks. I just changed out the studs to american studs and bolted on 22.5 wheels.

Flat 67 01-10-2014 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by lmdangerous (Post 6462691)
But the stovebolt site has several nice photos. Again check it out.

I remember seeing that same article. Great article, but unless I'm mistaken, the last time I checked all the pictures were gone.

Flat67

lmdangerous 01-10-2014 10:08 AM

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Still not a big deal . I used the flat bars as a jig and made sure the center of the beam was both straight and level.Need a big steady table and the usual blocks and vises.Double check after each weld.Some preheat- I did not . The arco welder I have will cut through it if i really turn it up. Several other machinest in the area said the trick is to let it cool on its own - no problems. The Isuzu npr axle sounds intresting also - and you would already have disc brakes with common parts available.Having done a disc brake conversion on my 3800 and keeping the factory I beam- That is a big plus.

lmdangerous 01-10-2014 12:06 PM

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The moderator for the one tones on the stovebolt that did the article was named Griggs. Give him a hollar.
LMD

Rednek13x 01-10-2014 11:42 PM

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Oh loving this thing!

Scooterbilt 01-11-2014 12:50 AM

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Thank you all for the input. I will look into the Isuzu axle.

Scooterbilt 01-11-2014 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Flat 67 (Post 6462605)
Scooter,

Take a look at this link. Granted your axle is so much bigger but maybe the same principles will apply.

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...g+an+beam+axle


BTW, great project..........Flat67

Thats the ticket right there! That is how I will do it.

Flat 67 01-11-2014 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Scooterbilt (Post 6464716)
Thats the ticket right there! That is how I will do it.

Go for it. And post lots of pics. Then I'll narrow mine next on my latest project.

Lots of luck to you.........Flat67

lmdangerous 01-13-2014 05:53 PM

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I wanna see the Suzy axle pics . It might very well work on my my next idea .
LMD

Scooterbilt 01-15-2014 11:29 PM

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Here is half of the coupling device that will connect the engines together.

The part that is in the chuck was a balancer from a small block Chevy, fellow truck builder Tim Smith came up with all this. This will bolt to another sbc balancer that has been modified to fit the LS engine. Then we have a chain coupler from a machine supply, it has been turned down and opened up to attach to the balancer on one end and a input shaft on the other. The splined shaft will be stuck in a bearing in the rear of the crank of the second engine. There will be an apparatus on the splines that will allow us to connect and disconnect the 2 engines so we can shut the front engine down running down the highway.

lmdangerous 01-16-2014 09:47 AM

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Same basic set up that the Freight Train and other dual engine dragsters in top gas back in the 60s used.Yep it will hold no sweat. Cool very Cool.

Tim@warriordiesel 01-17-2014 01:42 AM

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Yeah its took me 2 days to build jackshaft and mount the trans. Gotta love custom work.

Dinos63 01-24-2014 03:25 PM

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Holy shhhhh-- so cool dang!

Scooterbilt 01-29-2014 10:51 PM

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I know this is a little early, but everyone give me some ideas on paint. We are going for a look that just says F U from across the parking lot.

mrolds88 01-30-2014 12:33 AM

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I would go with the just out of the barn look. Pick some stock colors and do some patina.

Scooterbilt 02-07-2014 12:26 AM

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We are kicking around the idea of sanding all the paint off of it except the top of the cab and leave it a raw metal.

Scooterbilt 02-07-2014 12:37 AM

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Well today we cut the frame again to lower the rear section another 3 1/2". I think it looks a lot better. The intake on the front engine I built for another project, sat it on there to see what it would look like. With twin turbos on each engine we decided the intakes need to be much larger!!

Scooterbilt 02-11-2014 11:10 PM

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We have made a little progress this week in between paying jobs lol. We have the cross members/engine mounts designed and cut. I will add some pics in the next few days once they are mocked up and in place. They turned out pretty cool in my humble opinion.

Guilty By Design 02-18-2014 08:28 PM

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This thing is gonna be awesome! If I had the spare time this kinda thing would be right up my alley. Hope to see it out soon, im just down the road from you in Joplin.

65 wonton 03-04-2014 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Scooterbilt (Post 6498117)
I know this is a little early, but everyone give me some ideas on paint. We are going for a look that just says F U from across the parking lot.

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We are kicking around the idea of sanding all the paint off of it except the top of the cab and leave it a raw metal.


Weld up a cage around the corners (a-la brush guard meets Mad Max) of 1" rebar and leave raw.

Dave.

nsulacountry 03-05-2014 09:52 PM

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Subscribed!

CT

sambudo 03-11-2014 11:10 PM

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Love it!

Scooterbilt 04-21-2014 11:41 PM

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Here's some more pic's. I am gonna start cutting the ladder bars this week. I'm hoping to have it a roller in a few weeks.


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