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Billett 04-30-2013 09:29 PM

Re: First Time Swapper
 
No, no cam. Gaskets are as far as I'm going.

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These aren't the best, but I'm going to do a serious post on my build thread when I get a chance this weekend. Right now it's just a matter of what can I save on. Gonna keep my current radiator since it still works and just run the steam vent to the water pump. I was looking into motor mounts for a few days before I realized that my current engine is an '87 sbc :dohh: so all I'll need is an adapter plate. I'm just going to cut one of those myself. Bought all the gaskets, and I'm trying to decide on fuel lines right now. I'm leaning towards bending some hardlines with a few short teflon/rubber sections in between. Gonna buy the wix filter, but my engine has the built in regulator on the rail.

Also, just a quick teaser. I had been planning on shaving the truck intake and cleaning up the hoses and wiring, but now I won't have to :D my brother brought me home a sweet TBSS engine cover. Plan is to paint it white with red stripes and I took the SS sticker off and I'm going to paint the Texaco logo in the center. Should look sweet with the rest of the truck.

Wasted Income 05-01-2013 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Billett (Post 6044476)
Gonna buy the wix filter, but my engine has the built in regulator on the rail.

I would put a "normal" fuel filter in line, and use the truck rails with the regulator...not the corvette setup that everybody seems to use. It's a little more work to run the return line, but worth the work if you ever plan on really turning up the wick on it.

Billett 06-02-2013 08:37 PM

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Another quick question. I was talking to my brother and we're thinking that I should be able to use this PS pump as long as I get an external reservoir, otherwise I'd need a new pump. Anyone use one of these before?
http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4ab148c7.jpg

Also, here's what she looks like right now! I'll be a little over budget at about $4k instead of 3 like I really wanted, but the places I put in a bit of extra money make me feel confident about the reliability of this engine. I'll probably start tearing out the 350 this week.
http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/...ps119041f6.jpg

truckdude239 06-02-2013 09:02 PM

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i used the stock pump that came with my ls 4.8 just changed the fitting in the back of it to use the 71 lines

Bennett68C10 06-02-2013 11:01 PM

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Motor looks great, nice job
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ls1nova71 06-03-2013 12:45 AM

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You have a van PS pump, you just need a reservoir and you'll be good to go.
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Billett 06-03-2013 11:05 AM

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Thanks for the info. I'm going to use a Jack Daniels bottle as a coolant overflow, so I suppose I can work something else out for a PS reservoir. I also need to find something cool to put the PCM in... Few more questions I thought of.*

1) I need to take a look at my wiring harness to figure out which o2 sensors I need, but do the MAF sensors have different plugs? I was looking up part numbers for the lq4 maf and apparently there is an old and new version. Anyone know what the difference is? The old one is a lot cheaper. A list of o2 and MAF part numbers or at least a link would be super as well. The maf I looked into is listed as*AF10043.

2) I've decided that I have enough on my plate right now besides learning to tune. I would like to learn in the future but now isn't the time. I'm between TexasSpeed, BlackBear, and wait4me mail order tunes. I'm leaning towards wait4me, but every time I remember to look on their site I only have my phone on me, and the site requires flash... What I'm wondering is, when these places tune the PCM are they for a specific octane rating or will the pcm realize you filled up with a different octane and adjust accordingly? I know some tuners do that I just wasn't sure about these specifically.

3) I know this has been asked a million times before, but I can't seem to find my calipers at home, and I don't have the time atm moment to look it up, so if any of you know off the top of your head I would appreciate it. What sizes are the inlets to the LS water pumps, and the inlets to the stock radiator? If I recall the top of the LS matches the bottom of the radiator, but I can't remember if they are 1-1/4" or 1-1/2" and I think the other is only 1/4" larger but I can't remember exactly.*
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Billett 06-05-2013 10:36 AM

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Solved 2 and 3 bit any help with the maf?
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ls1nova71 06-05-2013 11:19 AM

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The AF10043 MAF will work on 99 to at least 06. The newer GenIV engines are different. Vans use a smaller MAF, but the plug is the same as a truck so the are a plug in and go deal.

Billett 06-05-2013 12:18 PM

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Awesome thanks!
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Billett 06-07-2013 12:27 PM

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Hit another snag. I have most of the original van harness and when I bought the trans I was given a harness with that as well. The engine harness has the blue/green or blue/red, (can't remember which atm), plugs on it for the pcm, but I don't have the one larger plug for the other row of the pcm. Can this plug be purchased separately? It would be cheaper to re-pin it than to buy an uncut harness. If not I guess I'll pony up for a custom drop in from painless or somewhere.
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solidaxel 06-10-2013 01:38 PM

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Engine looks great................. would you detail mine for me !!!!

Billett 06-11-2013 07:37 AM

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Thanks but it really looks much worse in person. I was too impatient to paint the block and heads. I might not do the trans either. I did clean the hell out of it though.
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thotfulspot 06-11-2013 02:12 PM

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What did you paint the valve covers with? It almost looks like a candy paint.
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Billett 06-13-2013 08:03 AM

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For those that need it here is where you can find the pcm connectors as well as terminals for the pins.

http://www.eficonnection.com/eficonn...spx?ItemId=286

Valve covers were painted with duplicolor metalcast. I'll get some pics up around lunch time.
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Billett 06-24-2013 12:11 PM

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Sorry about the valve cover pics. Been busy with work and the swap. Did get the old 350 out. Working on the trans cross member so I can pull the np435 out and then I'll start putting it all back together. Fuel lines look like the next item in line
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Blackpony 06-24-2013 12:52 PM

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What headers are those? I have '10 camaro manifolds right now and looking to do a set of headers soon. those look pretty good!

Also not sure what route you went, but on the adapter plates, I have a set that i am selling. they have been powdercoated a wrinkle black color. Ill let them go for $30 shipped if you are interested...

Billett 06-24-2013 06:03 PM

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Headers are Doug thorleys, 1-7/8" primaries. Adapter plates were from eBay with prothane mounts.

Also, thanks for the offer, but only subscribed members can sell parts on the site. Just a heads up. Your post may or may not be edited by a mod.
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Blackpony 06-25-2013 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Billett (Post 6140560)
Headers are Doug thorleys, 1-7/8" primaries. Adapter plates were from eBay with prothane mounts.

Also, thanks for the offer, but only subscribed members can sell parts on the site. Just a heads up. Your post may or may not be edited by a mod.
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Oh really? i dont venture around the site much.. haha good luck with the build! I am going to have to check out those headers!

Billett 06-28-2013 12:51 PM

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$200 for a black bear mail in or $500 for a dyno tune from Race Proven. Thoughts? $300 is a lot. Will I get that much more drivability, power, etc out of the dyno over a mail in?
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Clyde65 06-28-2013 03:26 PM

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Yes!

Billett 07-17-2013 12:45 PM

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Anyone know if I can swap a return style rail with a set of return less ones from the later model trucks? That or block off the regulator on the rail. I've already got the fittings and corvette style regulator/filter and Id rather not buy more stuff
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AJII 07-17-2013 01:10 PM

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Yes you can swap the fuel rails. 04-06 will be non return style

AJII 07-17-2013 01:11 PM

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Dyno tune isn't worth it on a basically stock engine IMO.

Billett 08-29-2013 07:46 PM

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Here's an easy one. I have the PS pump with a remote reservoir... but I don't have the reservoir... I was thinking of just using an old whiskey bottle. Question is, are the PS lines all high pressure? I don't think a glass bottle with a rubber stopper will hold up to that kind of pressure, but if it's only high pressure into the box then I'll go with it.

If not I'll just grab a new pump with a built in tank

BR3W CITY 08-30-2013 12:59 AM

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I have an O.E remote resevoir for a truck /van. It cost me a couple bucks from the boneyard, so reimburse me and its yours.

Billett 09-22-2013 08:08 AM

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Got it up and running late last night! So gratifying! Ran into a few snags but we pushed through. First the starter was grounding out on the trans cooler lines and then we realized we forgot a ground strap from the engine to frame but as soon as we figured those out she started right up and purred like a lion :D those DT headers are awesome! I'll see if I can get a video up later today.

Huge thanks to everyone here who gave me a helping hand and especially to wasted income and br3w city.

And for those of you keeping score at home my total was closer to 6k, not 3... most of my extra cost came from problems with the year and options on my truck, not necessarily the engine. I think I could have done it for much cheaper, but in my case cheaper meant sacrificing a lot of safety and reliability and I wasn't willing to do that.
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Wasted Income 09-23-2013 11:05 AM

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Glad to hear you got it going, dude! Scope creep is kind of a *****, eh? haha.


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