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That's a really good point, I had just assumed it would survive okay but looking at temperatures looks like it won't. Maybe I have to abandon that plan and pay someone to epoxy primer it when I'm done. Did a bit of googling and there's a product called Thermobond 3 that's used for this, but too late for that I think. Some people also report using JB weld with success, but that's more for fabricated bike frames and stuff like that.

The hole there is just on a tab used to support the rain gutter thing that goes inside. I put seam sealer on the under side.
Here's an older picture
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...924_211418.jpg

Not sure if I want to weld it to the cab and try to line the outer cowl over top of it, or weld it to the outer cowl and weld it to the cab through the holes in the cowl.
The aftermarket cowl I have has it already welded to the cowl, I'm leaning that way.

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Thanks for checking out my build thread. It's long read but if it helps anyone that was the goal.
I wouldn't bother with powder coat either. You should be able to shoot epoxy primer yourself. It's really easy and you can pick up primer quality paint gun at harbor freight for like $20. Once you get confident with primer, you can move on to paint. :)

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Wow !! What an inspiration you are to never give up. You are doing some great work :chevy:

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Wow it's been a long time since I updated. I've been so busy rushing to get ready for winter whenever I had spare time I didn't feel like doing anything, never mind update this thread.

Picking up where I left off...


Filled the gap I made in the inner cowl
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...015_183957.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...015_213802.jpg


Patched the sections of outer cowl that were full of pinholes. Both were areas where layers of metal sat next to each other.
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...016_172630.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...016_195509.jpg


After that patching the outer cowl didn't want to sit as nice any more. Maybe I shrunk the area above the blower motor with heat, I'm not sure.
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...016_200749.jpg


Welded in the rain gutter around the blower motor, starting with two plug welds on the little tab. Never noticed the indent in the cowl for this piece until I was fitting it.
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...016_201736.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...016_201126.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...016_205119.jpg


Seam sealed
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...019_213819.jpg

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Welded the front fender mounting plates to the outer cowl
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...016_205623.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...016_205601.jpg


Time to put the cowl on. This was probably the hardest part I've done so far.
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...019_215311.jpg


Line the holes up, fill with weld. Repeat.
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...019_231235.jpg


This is the bottom of the cowl on the passenger side. Even clamped down and stretched as much as I could, it doesn't sit very nice.
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...021_213557.jpg


I regret not stopping here and making a relief cut, but I was in a time crunch and just keep pushing ahead.
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...021_214012.jpg


Top view shows how wavy it is
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...021_214033.jpg


At least the drives side fit nice.
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...021_225040.jpg


More welding, now the rain gutter around the blower motor is fully tied into the cowl.
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...021_231935.jpg

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More welding, now the rain gutter around the blower motor is fully tied into the cowl.
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...021_231935.jpg


Keep telling myself it's just cosmetic, doesn't affect anything and it's buried in the engine bay behind the fender and inner fender anyways.
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...021_231959.jpg


All welded
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...021_233250.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...021_233301.jpg


Followed by lots of grinding. Do you guys fill in stuff like this, or just leave it and cover it with seam sealer after?
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...023_192927.jpg


All ground
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...023_205838.jpg


Painted and rolled outside.
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...029_141247.jpg

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Major clean up of the garage happened after this.
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...029_141257.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...029_141313.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...029_135118.jpg


The bit I'm not happy with. Not sure if I'm going to leave it. Tossing around the idea of shaving the firewall, the cowl, and filling the "wire gutter" between the firewall and cowl. We'll see.
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...029_141844.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...029_141900.jpg


All wrapped up for winter. Probably won't see much in updates until spring now, maybe just parts collecting.
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...029_152756.jpg



In the spring I'll bolt the floor to the chassis with new mounts, place the cab on top, and line things up with the front clip. Then I'll make a few tacks to join the floor with the cab, pull the two off and weld together. The firewall goes in next, then once the floor and firewall are fully installed I'll cut out the bracing, hang the doors and fit the rockers and cab corners.

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Nice to read some updates! If that side of the cowl buggs ya that much you could always round up a doner and patch it, if ya haven't I'd try and get some K2 primer on all then spots, I went as far as draping a big tarp over my truck and using a space heater to get temps to 68-72.

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Wow! That's some great work! Can't wait till spring now to see you finish up that cab!

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Coming along. Great work

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Yeah, we'll see how I feel about it in the spring.
Don't have the equipment to do epoxy primer, that's partially why I wanted to powdercoat it all again. Only cost me $280 last time for sandblasting and powdercoat, hell of a deal.

I'm just borrowing a 6 gallon pancake compressor rated at 2.6 cfm from my dad, and I might have killed it already. Need a proper compressor to run a paint gun, and I don't have the electrical to support one. Basically, I would need a new house electrical box, run a cable underground to the garage, and buy a compressor before I can paint anything myself.



Thanks for the kind words!

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Great work so far! Search for a used gas compressor to run outside while you spray the epoxy.

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Nice build,keep the pictures coming & the progress going forward.Keep on Truckin.:metal:

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Spring is here, back to work!

Here's what I started with Sunday evening.
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...507_153258.jpg

First order of business is to replace the smashed out cab mounts. I think I got the order correct, can anyone weigh in?
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...507_153812.jpg


Floor placed on frame with new mounts, and the top half of the cab is squeezed over the new floor.
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...507_163219.jpg

The back of the floor pretty well locates itself nicely, the hard part will be getting the relationship between the front A pillars and the floor correct. I'm really grateful I have a mostly complete cab beside the truck to compare.
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...507_163256.jpg


And front clip thrown on.
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...507_165810.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...507_165828.jpg

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So here's how I have the mounts. They're from GMCPauls.

Front cab mount:
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...507_163235.jpg


Rear cab mount:
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...507_163246.jpg


Front clip mount compared to the originals. This one I'm worried about, I may start a new thread because it really doesn't look close to the original.
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...507_164509.jpg


Here's a couple threads I found that helped a bit, but not completely as their mounts are not the same in appearance as mine.
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=211356
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s....php?p=1636290
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=510819

And this one from Bruce88:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...318544&page=18

Image credits go to him. His front clip mount looks like my new one. Mine also didn't have the 1/8" shims his has.
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...2&d=1292067096

I have to go back and measure mine now.

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I might be wrong. But it looks as though your truck has the earlier core support mounts.
I have a 69 too and it also runs the earlier mounts. You can buy the bushes alone and reuse your original bolts, washers etc. Or you can buy the complete kit.

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Thank you for the post, that makes sense and I will look into that!

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Looking good, impressive work and attention to detail here .

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Ordered a new set of '67-68 front clip mounts from LMC truck...ouch. $60 of product plus $50 of shipping/duty and a poor Canadian dollar ends up at $155.:bs:



Even after a couple days of stewing over how to line thing up I don't have any good ideas.
The best idea I've got it a wooden brace built inside the complete cab transferred into my cab to get the distance from floor to ceiling at the front of the cab correct, but I don't that that would be very accurate. There aren't really any fixed reference points between the two that I can use.

Another possibility is distance between the dash mounting captive nuts in the A pillars and the floor, but again I'm not too sure the factory placed those very accurately.

I can't use the firewall as there is none. I can' use the bottom of the A-pillars as the one side has rusted away and the other A-pillar I replaced. I can't hang the doors yet as the cab bracing prevents that.

Maybe I'm over thinking this and the factory variation in tolerances isn't that accurate either but I'd like to get it as close to "right" as possible.

Since I like pics here's a few I snapped while staring at it and thinking.
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...510_194842.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...510_194938.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...510_195050.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...510_195058.jpg

Anyone have clever ideas?

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Is there any possibility of waiting till you replace the firewall to perfect the measurements? If you had a firewall, I would say the front of the floor does not matter, because it fits where it fits - it's not adjustable. The rear does matter because that is adjustable and will affect the height of the floor in the front and the back.

I would suggest using sheet metal screws to hold the floor in position in the rear, and not permanently attach anything in the meantime.

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Jumping on board to see how this turns out. Amazing effort so far.

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Slowly picking away at things...

Unbolted the bed from the frame because I have new bolts with pads to install. 6/8 snapped..
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...520_183311.jpg


It's not looking very nice under there. I really need a better parking spot away from grass.
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...520_180348.jpg


Cleaned all the trash and spare parts from the bed including the toolbox and swept it.
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...520_185203.jpg


Added one stick of 1x1 to the bracing on each side, removed the one that went to the outside of the A pillar. Relocated the lower angle iron further inwards on each side.
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...527_161858.jpg
http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f7...527_163800.jpg


Now I need to convince some people over to help lift the front clip off again so I can hang the doors.

Still flip flopping between making the body lines line up with the bed on the pads (adds about 1/4") or leave them out like factory and space everything up if I decide to use them.

I suppose I should probably pick up some new door hinge pins too before I get the doors on. Still not 100% on how I'm going to line things up. I'm making stuff up as I go. I like the string idea, and now being able to put the doors on will allow me to stretch or pull things in the right direction before welding.

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I've got a firewall, but there's probably an easy 1/2" of adjustment that could happen with it. The seam between the firewall and floor is also the main source of fitment issues with the aftermarket floors from what I've seen so I don't want to rely on that. There is nothing to locate the front of the floor height wise where it fits between the A pillars. At the back the door jamb has a lip that rests on top of the floor, locating it. And then of course the rear wall of the cab will fit flush with the back of the floor so basically the cab just gets lowered onto the new floor, and pushed as far down and forward on the new floor as it can go and it's positioned correctly. If the very bottom of my A pillars were not missing it would be a snap.

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Ok, I am confused. The front lip of the floor where it meets the lip of the firewall does not seem to be adjustable to me. You can adjust the height of the front of the floor by adjusting the height of the back of the floor. As you raise the back, the front will follow in height.

There can be a small gap between the back pillar and the floor. While I have seen some people move the floor so it touches the back pillar, I have been told that a gap is normal. Take a look at the last page (I think) of my build thread. The gap you have in your back pillar looks about the same as the gap I have. I used the markings left over from paint (or lack of it) after I removed my floor to determine the height of my floor.

What I can tell you, and this might help you line things up, is that there is a 7-1/2" distance from the center of the top hinge bolt hole to the large hole at the bottom of the A pillar. See page 2, post 36 of Dan's thread (http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=503533&page=2)

I would focus on installing the front and back pillars if you have not already done so (I can't tell from your pics if you did them both), then adjust the floor height after you are done.

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My hat is off to you, for not giving up!!!
Carry on!!!

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I'm really impressed by the job you have done this far!
Will be exciting to see how this develops.

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Frigging Photobucket!

I'm really wanting to see this build.

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Yeah sorry guys. The whole Photobucket thing has really taken the wind out of my sails in terms of updating the thread. Still plugging away at it though. Need to find another host,
but it's unlikely I'll go back and fix the probably over a hundred pics that are broken now.

I've recently joined Instagram, there's a little bit I've posted there. Search the hashtag #204C10. :)

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Why find another host? Instead, just download from photobucket to your computer and upload the pictures directly to this forum, to edit the posts and use that method going forward...

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I would absolutely love to see all the pics as i'm going to be cutting my cab apart soon, and all the threads say to see this thread. I'll keep checking in here and on the instagram as well.

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If ya want you can go thru my thread, kinda long and strung out being as it was my first time but I tried to document all my steps. Link in my sig.

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I will definitely check it out. Thank you.

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Thanks for checking it out. I've been pretty inactive, didn't get much done during the summer. Truck is hibernating for the winter now.

http://s45.photobucket.com/user/Ben_Lude/library/c10

Here's a direct link to my photobucket album for the truck, all 650ish pics. Pics should work if you view them on their website. Hopefully they help!

I'll try to sum up the little I got done during the summer.
Replaced both lower A-pillar bits. From this
https://i.imgur.com/r7DAZRM.jpg

Fitment sucked
https://i.imgur.com/0m97o4D.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/r1xYGod.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/TJBHYYW.jpg


Also did the other side.

Bed got all new mounting hardware.

Other than that it was a lot of moving things one way, then the other, doors on, doors off, tweak, shuffle, etc. Nothing interesting to look at.

I stacked all the pieces together for the winter. Here's what it looked like before I put the tarp on it.
https://i.imgur.com/QPhddVV.jpg

Pretty frustrated at myself for getting so little done, next spring I want to hit it hard again.

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Woke up from winter yet?

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Looks like good progress .

? What are the things you parked over ? they appear to do a good job of preventing grass etc. from growing up, I have one oldie parked over grass and I dislike it .

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Great job man! I just picked up a 69 and its the same thing like yours, rust everywhere. Im gonna try to save it just because i dont have the space or time to get another cab. and i have all this summer and all winter to get it done! Can wait to see this ont he road looking nice!