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Ekliptix 02-07-2017 03:13 PM

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And a 4x4 My dad had for a while.
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jojomiamia 02-07-2017 04:06 PM

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Does my one fit ?

I own it since two months and I think it's one of the best decisions I have ever made in my life.

I feel like Colt Seavers... seriously it makes me feel like in my young ages. The cheapest time machine, and sure not the ugliest one !!

Chevyland 02-07-2017 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jojomiamia (Post 7851394)
Does my one fit ?

I own it since two months and I think it's one of the best decisions I have ever made in my life.

I feel like Colt Seavers... seriously it makes me feel like in my young ages. The cheapest time machine, and sure not the ugliest one !!

Nice truck
Looks like it ended up far away from California, where it was originally sold
The original Yellow over green is a very rare color
I've never seen one, don't even think there is a good picture of it on the board
Yes, these definitely are feel good trucks

71CHEVYSHORTBED402 02-07-2017 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ekliptix (Post 7851352)
I don't have the spid and I'd love to know if my 72 is a real Super or a fake.

Has AC, shoulder seat belts, wood on the door panels and dash, tilt, rear cab light, lower trim only. I added the seat cover.

Any ways I can tell 100%?

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That could be a Super. I'm not an expert, but from my education you can't confirm unless everything lines up. Really, it's process of elimination for increasing odds of originality. The SPID is an important component. Your truck had a build sheet (under the seat behind webbing, careful, it's brittle). If it's gone that's strike two. Also, how much of that truck are original parts, including the VIN plates to title?

Super came with upper moldings, so if authentic they sealed up the holes. That or the entire body is a replacement Ha! (extreme). Guess these had chrome tailgate handles as well. Yours doesn't, but mine doesn't either. They may not hold up well, though my tailgate is thrashed.

I don't believe A/C was a Super standard. It was an option on anything Custom Deluxe forward, if not Custom forward.

Authentic or not NICE truck. One of the better paint schemes IMO, dark olive + wood grain.

Chevyland 02-07-2017 07:05 PM

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The moulding question Is one I've always wondered about on Supers
?Did they ever come without full trim?
Every post here has upper and lower moulding
Except the black Long stepside jocko posted in #42
I remember that truck when it was being sold, and I believe the spid was shown
That being said, was moulding deleted due to the fact it was a stepside?
I also believe I have seen Super motor homes without moulding
My motorhome is only cheyenne, and it came from factory without lower
All that being said, let's see if any other stepside's show up
OR any fleetside's with spid, but without upper or lower moulding

Joesjunk 02-07-2017 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Chevyland (Post 7851546)
The moulding question Is one I've always wondered about on Supers
?Did they ever come without full trim?
Every post here has upper and lower moulding
Except the black Long stepside jocko posted in #42
I remember that truck when it was being sold, and I believe the spid was shown
That being said, was moulding deleted due to the fact it was a stepside?
I also believe I have seen Super motor homes without moulding
My motorhome is only cheyenne, and it came from factory without lower
All that being said, let's see if any other stepside's show up
OR any fleetside's with spid, but without upper or lower moulding

Stepsides and cab and chassis trucks deleted the moldings. That black 4x4 step side was a real super with a SPID to match.

Chevyland 02-08-2017 12:38 AM

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Thanks for the clarification Joe. I never knew that for sure

Here is another one.
A Longhorn. C30. Big block
Low on the collectibility scale

randy500 02-08-2017 01:28 AM

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I guess I will add one of mine....cant find the pic of the other half of the SPID, its in my build thread I think.

jocko 02-08-2017 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Ekliptix (Post 7851352)
I don't have the spid and I'd love to know if my 72 is a real Super or a fake.

Has AC, shoulder seat belts, wood on the door panels and dash, tilt, rear cab light, lower trim only. I added the seat cover.

Any ways I can tell 100%?

Beautiful truck! No way to know for sure if it was born a Super without a SPID or build sheet. While playing Sherlock Holmes with the tell tale signs will provide clues, it would never be a definitive answer. Your truck is so nice and clearly redone, would be hard to even guess. The tailgate handle cover is missing (but they sometimes are), and Supers never came with black door panels (unless they had black buckets). So, for example, if you knew enough of the truck's history to at least know the door panels were original, you could make the assumption it's a Cheyenne, but not a Super. But, if you don't know that history - it's possible it could be a Cheyenne Super that someone redid with black door panels... Again, no way to know definitively without the paperwork. (then again, untouched trucks tend to still have their SPIDs, so guessing based on clues isn't usually necessary)

Forgot to mention - as for woodgrain on the door panels, both Cheyenne and Cheyenne Super had them, so not a giveaway as to trim level (headliner is a fairly good clue it's a Cheyenne at least - but, like woodgrain door panels, Cheyennes and Cheyenne Supers both had headliners - it's just a lot more work to add a headliner than a woodgrain door panel...) A/C, tilt, and even super rare factory shoulder belts are unrelated to trim level. All could be ordered on a base trim truck (a Custom).

It's easier to guess the Super originality based on clues alone on an untouched/unrestored truck - i.e. it's more difficult to fake a well worn Super than it is a fully restored one. Hard to make a group of parts look exactly the same age (unless that age is brand new). But still, all conjecture without the paper to back it up.

I'd want to know too if it were my truck, but I sure wouldn't sweat it - yours is one sweet ride, enjoy! We sure enjoy lookin at it.

SoCoC10 02-08-2017 08:49 AM

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One of my favorite color combos.

Ekliptix 02-08-2017 11:02 AM

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Thanks for the information and feedback about determining if my 72 is a real Super or not. I'd really love it to be. I'll search for the build sheet under the seat this week. Hopefully it's there and I can get some questions answered. Awesome trucks on this thread!!

Joesjunk 02-08-2017 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ekliptix (Post 7852188)
Thanks for the information and feedback about determining if my 72 is a real Super or not. I'd really love it to be. I'll search for the build sheet under the seat this week. Hopefully it's there and I can get some questions answered. Awesome trucks on this thread!!

If you think you're sheetmetal is original to the truck you could look inside the front fenders for evidence of any holes being welded up from the upper molding.

Already Gone 02-08-2017 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ekliptix (Post 7852188)
Thanks for the information and feedback about determining if my 72 is a real Super or not. I'd really love it to be. I'll search for the build sheet under the seat this week. Hopefully it's there and I can get some questions answered. Awesome trucks on this thread!!

Do have the pictured gaskets between the front fender and cowl. Open your door and look past the hinges and real Supers have them, but they could be added in a rebuild. If they are there and look 40 + years old you probably have an original Super. If your truck was a Fremont Plant build the broadcast sheets are usually in the seat springs.

robs71 02-08-2017 03:51 PM

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Great point Already Gone...the forgotten clue that darn gasket that never comes off in one piece...Ekliptix has one bad shorty there..i don't care what it was born as.

randy500 02-08-2017 04:07 PM

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I agree that green super is a beautiful truck and seems to have all the Cheyenne super equipment.

Ol Blue K20 02-08-2017 07:29 PM

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The gasket came on Cheyenne too.

71CHEVYSHORTBED402 02-08-2017 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Already Gone (Post 7852414)
Do have the pictured gaskets between the front fender and cowl. Open your door and look past the hinges and real Supers have them, but they could be added in a rebuild. If they are there and look 40 + years old you probably have an original Super. If your truck was a Fremont Plant build the broadcast sheets are usually in the seat springs.

I was wondering what that was. Thought perhaps my 71 Deluxe was missing them.

bacato 02-08-2017 09:10 PM

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So was the tachometer ever included in a package, or was it simply an individual option?

Becker67 02-08-2017 09:23 PM

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Here's my 72 unsure if it's real it's also missing the spid. I think it has most everything that it should have to be real.

Becker67 02-08-2017 09:25 PM

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The inside

Becker67 02-08-2017 09:27 PM

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The rear

tommys72 02-08-2017 09:44 PM

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Is that gasket black or body color?

jocko 02-08-2017 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by bacato (Post 7852776)
So was the tachometer ever included in a package, or was it simply an individual option?

individual option only

jocko 02-08-2017 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tommys72 (Post 7852801)
Is that gasket black or body color?

Pretty sure they are black Tommy. As mentioned above, they were on Cheyennes and Supers, kinda like woodgrain door panels and headliners.

jocko 02-08-2017 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Becker67 (Post 7852785)
The inside

Nice lookin truck Becker, really like it. Looks like a Super, but it's hard to know definitively. Black door panels not available on a Super unless it came with black buckets. Can't tell if you have the bright tailgate handle in the picture. It's possible that someone wanted to change the interior to black as mentioned above and swapped out, or even painted, the original olive, blue, or parchment panels.

I also can't tell in the picture the paint color of your glovebox door - is it black or red? If it is black, is your VIN's plant (7th character) code "S"? A red Cheyenne would absolutely have a red gb door whereas a red Super could have a red OR black gb door). I think it was a St Louis plant thing, but don't quote me on that... Black door is not definitive proof, but it's one clue of several. Anyway, hope that helps.

Becker67 02-08-2017 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jocko (Post 7852863)
Nice lookin truck Becker, really like it. Looks like a Super, but it's hard to know definitively. Black door panels not available on a Super unless it came with black buckets. Can't tell if you have the bright tailgate handle in the picture. It's possible that someone wanted to change the interior to black as mentioned above and swapped out, or even painted, the original olive, blue, or parchment panels.

I also can't tell in the picture the paint color of your glovebox door - is it black or red? If it is black, is your VIN's plant (7th character) code "S"? A red Cheyenne would absolutely have a red gb door whereas a red Super could have a red OR black gb door). I think it was a St Louis plant thing, but don't quote me on that... Black door is not definitive proof, but it's one clue of several. Anyway, hope that helps.

It does have the stainless tailgate handle cover. The glovebox door is all red. The code on mine is a z.

jocko 02-08-2017 11:06 PM

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got it. well, like I said, red gb door doesn't sway things either direction. the 71 should have a solid chrome tailgate handle, not the slip on stainless cover, but who knows... maybe a few late in the year 71's got the slip on??? Z is Fremont - S would have only been a clue if you also had the black gb door. Nice truck.

EDIT: Oops! I was looking at your signature thinking you were talkin about your 71, sorry - I see now on the previous page the red/white is a 72 - so, yes, slip on cover would be correct.

tommys72 02-08-2017 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jocko (Post 7852853)
Pretty sure they are black Tommy. As mentioned above, they were on Cheyennes and Supers, kinda like woodgrain door panels and headliners.

Mine are there, they're blue though. I know my truck isn't 100% completely original paint, could've been oversprayed i guess.

jocko 02-09-2017 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by tommys72 (Post 7852935)
Mine are there, they're blue though. I know my truck isn't 100% completely original paint, could've been oversprayed i guess.

Thanks Tommy, interesting. Would be good to know (if overspray) - I thought they were like a flimsy/floppy wind break material, surprised they are truck color. Now I want to go look at mine again!

tommys72 02-09-2017 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by jocko (Post 7852962)
Thanks Tommy, interesting. Would be good to know (if overspray) - I thought they were like a flimsy/floppy wind break material, surprised they are truck color. Now I want to go look at mine again!

Haha. I already looked again. Mine can't be oversprayed. They're full blown blue, the whole thing

randy500 02-09-2017 01:18 AM

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They are black rubber material from the factory. If they are body color then they have been sprayed. They can only be removed with the fender off so they often get painted.

J kippin 02-09-2017 09:05 PM

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Here is my old one second photo is at its new home
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Already Gone 02-10-2017 02:21 PM

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Here is one I found searching for something else. It was posted 2012 by Don Loverink which shows account suspended now. No Spid but I'm certain its an original Cheyenne Super K10 in original condition. Notice the black headliner with the parchment interior.

Chevyland 02-10-2017 04:05 PM

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I wonder why the black headliner?
I've seen other trucks that had parchment interior, with black dash pad, seat belts and sometimes steering wheel.
My orange truck in post #75 was parchment spid. It had parchment headliner along with door panels and visors.
The dash pad, steering wheel, belts and carpet were black.

Oh well just another piece of the puzzle to figure out.

OLDROCK&ROLLER 02-10-2017 05:33 PM

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This is my 72 super very low option BB.

jocko 02-10-2017 05:54 PM

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yeah, that black headliner is an oddity, interesting. and, other than PO1 vs PO3, it's almost identical to the K10 I posted a few pages ago. Really like it. Greg - weren't you gonna post a sierra grande too?

undertaker72 02-10-2017 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jocko (Post 7854575)
yeah, that black headliner is an oddity, interesting. and, other than PO1 vs PO3, it's almost identical to the K10 I posted a few pages ago. Really like it. Greg - weren't you gonna post a sierra grande too?

jocko, is it ok to post sierra grande on hear , I have three of those , one like above ochre and white , , , and I guess I need to get out camera and shot my other 2 suoers , I collect to many , need to quit preserving history , and send some down the road thanks for the thread kevin

jocko 02-10-2017 08:59 PM

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absolutely - they are YE9s too! Greg asked the same question - by all means, feel free to post a Sierra Grande.

Rabe 02-11-2017 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by OLDROCK&ROLLER (Post 7854549)
This is my 72 super very low option BB.

Nice truck!

allchevy58 02-11-2017 12:57 AM

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Here's my Sierra Grande.

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