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Robert Haas 10-24-2017 09:20 AM

Re: Two is easier then one 1965 GMC S/W/BB build
 
Short time lapse of the first day we put the stock frame on the fixture.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGmhSzPxv3E

Robert Haas 10-24-2017 09:44 AM

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Cut some big holes in the frame. :metal:

Smooth siding the stock frame after boxing it.



Hate these dimples and holes

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Lay them out

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Cut them out


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Weld in the patches,and done.;)

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Plug the rest of these holes and do the same on the other side tomorrow.

GAc10boy 10-24-2017 01:43 PM

Re: Two is easier then one 1965 GMC S/W/BB build
 
Nice work!

scdude37 10-24-2017 02:24 PM

Re: Two is easier then one 1965 GMC S/W/BB build
 
beautiful work! Its amazing to see people have the patience and abilities to do these activities. Hope to see you all keep posting and showing your trucks off! Wish I had some people around my area close to help out! Keep it up

Robert Haas 10-24-2017 09:25 PM

Re: Two is easier then one 1965 GMC S/W/BB build
 
You would be surprised what you can accomplish if you just try. Honestly I think I taught myself more in a few hours in my shop then any teacher ever taught me in a tech class.

Robert Haas 10-27-2017 09:33 AM

Re: Two is easier then one 1965 GMC S/W/BB build
 
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Greg and I had a pretty good day yesterday. we picked up a mock up block and set of heads as well as our core 700R transmission. We bolted it into the frame and now we can get started fabricating the transmission cross member and I can get serious about building the all 304 Stainless exhaust system.

The Hedman Chevelle Headers Greg bought from Summit fit amazingly well, nice and high and with lots of room.

so here are a few pictures

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Robert Haas 10-27-2017 09:34 AM

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Robert Haas 10-27-2017 09:37 AM

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raggedjim 10-27-2017 10:07 AM

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Nice build. Sometimes I think when people see a build like this where you obviously have it under control there's a tendency to sit back and enjoy the show without throwing out anything that may be distracting.

Believe me, people are watching (and learning), Rg

Robert Haas 10-30-2017 10:15 AM

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Big day for us.

We fabbed the removable transmission cross-member. this single piece really had us scratching our heads as it has so many obstacles to address. It had to be less then an inch thick where it spanned the exhaust. It had to give clearance to speedo cable. Also it had to be strong enough to handle a built 454's violence.


Greg got serious about cutting out and replacing the steel on the frame sides

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Robert Haas 10-30-2017 10:18 AM

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I stood around with a tape measure and made faces figuring out this fab.

Asking myself if running a 3" exhaust inside the frame was really possible. I'll get back to that in a while, anyway here is our solution to the Transmission mount.

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Robert Haas 10-30-2017 10:36 AM

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Bolted in.

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So here is the reason for the head scratching. 3" 304 Stainless exhaust we are custom building.
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The front section has to be able to drop out for transmission service, incorporate the H-pipe and leave clearance for the heat shield we will be building.

SFTorange 11-01-2017 08:31 AM

Re: Two is easier then one 1965 GMC S/W/BB build
 
Very cool! Thanks for sharing.

Robert Haas 11-01-2017 10:06 AM

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The Flowmaster Stainless Steel 50's showed up, why they are painted black is beyond us but they are here. So working on their placement and figuring out how to hang the exhaust under the rear end.

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cru_zn_29 11-01-2017 10:23 AM

Re: Two is easier then one 1965 GMC S/W/BB build
 
Very nice work.

Robert Haas 11-01-2017 11:01 AM

Re: Two is easier then one 1965 GMC S/W/BB build
 
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Originally Posted by cru_zn_29 (Post 8072924)
Very nice work.


Thank you. We are working diligently to going forward without having to undo or change anything. Planning and preparation have been a primary focus and it is starting to pay off.

northern 85 11-02-2017 05:27 AM

Re: Two is easier then one 1965 GMC S/W/BB build
 
Awesome work, ive always wanted to weld in the ball and socket connections. What brand do you use?

Robert Haas 11-02-2017 10:02 AM

Re: Two is easier then one 1965 GMC S/W/BB build
 
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Originally Posted by northern 85 (Post 8073610)
Awesome work, ive always wanted to weld in the ball and socket connections. What brand do you use?

Flowmaster

Robert Haas 11-05-2017 06:01 PM

Re: Two is easier then one 1965 GMC S/W/BB build
 
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Finished up the exhaust to the back of the mufflers, still waiting on some more mandrel bent tube to get the back half finished. Went ahead and built some brackets to hang everything with urethane isolators on 3/8" hardware.

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Robert Haas 11-05-2017 06:06 PM

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So Greg and I got the body loaded back on the frame to let us figure out the steering column and finalize the firewall. Waiting on the valve covers to see how much room we will have.

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northern 85 11-06-2017 06:09 AM

Re: Two is easier then one 1965 GMC S/W/BB build
 
Beautiful work, i bet this thing is going to be a blast to drive, autocross comes to mind when i look at it. Thanks for keeping us up to date with pictures.

Greg B 11-06-2017 10:50 AM

Re: Two is easier then one 1965 GMC S/W/BB build
 
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Originally Posted by northern 85 (Post 8076369)
Beautiful work, i bet this thing is going to be a blast to drive, autocross comes to mind when i look at it. Thanks for keeping us up to date with pictures.

I do plan on having some fun doing a few autocross/track events but when we start on Roberts truck is when it gets serious about Pro-Touring. :devil:
Thanks for the kind words and support!

GAc10boy 11-06-2017 12:24 PM

Re: Two is easier then one 1965 GMC S/W/BB build
 
Excellent progress. The trans crossmember and exhaust work is awesome.

aggie91 11-06-2017 04:07 PM

Re: Two is easier then one 1965 GMC S/W/BB build
 
Nice Progress. I need to build me a frame table like yours.

Robert Haas 11-06-2017 05:46 PM

Re: Two is easier then one 1965 GMC S/W/BB build
 
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Originally Posted by aggie91 (Post 8076655)
Nice Progress. I need to build me a frame table like yours.


It sure helps keep everything straight and true. Can not imagine how difficult it would be to do this build on jack stands. My old broken down body would just quit.

Robert Haas 11-15-2017 05:35 PM

Re: Two is easier then one 1965 GMC S/W/BB build
 
Gregs' engine is alive. You tube video from the engine builder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BX3uDZE7e8

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jhrusk 11-16-2017 04:17 PM

Re: Two is easier then one 1965 GMC S/W/BB build
 
Nice. Big blocks are heavy but they sure make good power.

Robert Haas 11-16-2017 07:26 PM

Re: Two is easier then one 1965 GMC S/W/BB build
 
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Originally Posted by jhrusk (Post 8083863)
Nice. Big blocks are heavy but they sure make good power.


yep, they don't call the light blocks:lol:

Robert Haas 11-27-2017 04:35 PM

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Did some work on the steering clearance issues in regards to the steering column/rack and pinion alignment

Here is our solution, what do you think?


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Low Elco 11-29-2017 09:07 AM

Re: Two is easier then one 1965 GMC S/W/BB build
 
Very nice fab work. As someone who is currently in the throes of a shop build, I agree, the planning and trying to see into the future is almost more work than building the dang thing!

Robert Haas 11-29-2017 10:41 AM

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couple small up dates.

The engine was shipped to us last Tuesday and should arrive middle of next week. We sprayed the cab with primer as it was developing surface rust since we media blasted it. The frame is very close to being shipped out to powder coat.



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Robert Haas 11-29-2017 11:12 AM

Re: Two is easier then one 1965 GMC S/W/BB build
 
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Originally Posted by Low Elco (Post 8092824)
Very nice fab work. As someone who is currently in the throes of a shop build, I agree, the planning and trying to see into the future is almost more work than building the dang thing!


Best advice I could offer are build a frame rack, it has simplified and increased the accuracy of our build further then any other component so far.

aggie91 11-30-2017 12:41 PM

Re: Two is easier then one 1965 GMC S/W/BB build
 
Looking back, Whose rotisserie did you purchase that you are using for the cab?

Robert Haas 12-04-2017 10:53 AM

Re: Two is easier then one 1965 GMC S/W/BB build
 
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Originally Posted by aggie91 (Post 8093722)
Looking back, Whose rotisserie did you purchase that you are using for the cab?


I'll have to look that up, nice folks. and a good well thought out product.

Greg found it for you

Weaver Equipment

Robert Haas 12-04-2017 10:55 AM

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This weekend was exciting. Greg and I needed to get the bed mounted for mock up. So we did that.

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Robert Haas 12-04-2017 11:00 AM

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Exhaust was finalized




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this shot shows how high the exit point is, the blue tape represents the bottom of the rolled pan

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And we even tossed a wheel in there to see what final ride height would look like. ;)



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jimmythompson1964 12-04-2017 01:51 PM

Re: Two is easier then one 1965 GMC S/W/BB build
 
The work on the frame looks so good I would hate to cover it up...lol

Robert Haas 12-05-2017 01:53 PM

Re: Two is easier then one 1965 GMC S/W/BB build
 
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Originally Posted by jimmythompson1964 (Post 8096475)
The work on the frame looks so good I would hate to cover it up...lol


I sure hope we can continue to build the rest of the truck to the standards we have achieved so far.

We are pretty decent fabricating, niether of us have any experience at all when it comes to paint and body work.

northern 85 12-07-2017 06:26 AM

Re: Two is easier then one 1965 GMC S/W/BB build
 
WOW .....outstanding work, this is a dream truck for many of us im sure.

Robert Haas 12-11-2017 11:22 AM

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Greg's truck took a turn in both design and equipment this week. When the motor builder sent us the dyno information we humbly realized we had a weak link in the build. The 700R4. The little GM automatic was just not going to be able to withstand the abuse Greg will be inflicting to it. So the 4L80E stepped up to the plate and dropped its resume on our white board. Yea it is more then capable of the task so we called the Transmission shop and canceled the build on the 700, and ordered it's built up big brother.

The fly in this ointment is the new transmission isl a lot bigger. It is wider, it is taller and to our horror it is ten inches longer. Our Transmission cross member and its associated tabs on the frame are toast. That is just a matter of fabrication and we are fine with that,but the real tragedy is the crossover pipe on the exhaust system that had run behind the the trans mount would now be in front of it and the trans would be above it. That was going to make me hang myself. I have close to 40 hours alone just building this exhaust focusing on keeping everything above the frame bottom.

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nice and cozy and the distance of the crossover in relation to the header collector was optimum.

So with tears in our eyes we grabbed the mock up block bolted to the new 4L80 mock up transmission and lowered it back into the frame to see just how bad this situation was.


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How is this possible?

How could the build Gods be so kind? :metal:

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Sorry had to edit as I mislabeled this as a 4L60 when as I was correctly scolded, it is in fact the 4L80e


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