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Alan's Classic 06-10-2009 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Morbid Fabrication (Post 3351938)
look'n really good Alan...

:thumbs:

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Originally Posted by joe231 (Post 3352043)
all it does is make your truck more "CUSTOM" looks good!!

Custom hack job.:lol:

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Originally Posted by 4dranch (Post 3352377)
Like Joe said......CUSTOM........
Nice work Alan..Thanks for sharing your good days and your bad days:lol:
It's all good days for us when you post your progress:metal:

It can't be a bed of roses all of the time.;)

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Originally Posted by MacAttack (Post 3352641)
True Dat! Thanks for all your input, Alan - hard knock or not. :metal:

:lol:

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Originally Posted by Strodder (Post 3352663)
It looks a little close to the frame. Will it hit when the engine torques? Clean job though. Looks good.

:thumbs:

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Originally Posted by jgh64pkup (Post 3352915)
it looks good i would have used them

Here's your chance they are for sale. There is a link a little further down

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Originally Posted by Inverter (Post 3353134)
Looks good. Any reason you went w/a mid length? I had the flow techs on my 98. Those look a little better crafted and maybe the coating wont come off like the holley's.

Love the detailed and clean assembly. Your my Hero.;)

I wanted the shorty to clean up the bottom. I don't like seeing collectors hanging down. Thanks for the comment. I don't feel like I'm a hero just a Dumb A$$ right now. I went out to the shop tonight and got disgusted with what I did to my frame. I'm $hit canning this idea and licking my wounds and get some headers that fit.

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Originally Posted by madmatt54 (Post 3353427)
Like Strodder said, have you taken into account the engine torque? It looks like the first time you hit hit the gas, the left side collector and right side header tubes are going to hit their respective frame rails. Remember, 383s like to twist on those motor mounts. ;)

I will be putting these headers up for sale in the for sale section. Here is a LINKY

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Originally Posted by 198plus (Post 3353669)
Alan you'll have to use solid motor mounts.

Thanks for the info.

Inverter 06-11-2009 12:06 AM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
Oh Hell,dont sweat it man. It wont be the last thing that doesnt work out. Worst case,pull the motor and front sheetmetal and patch the rails.
Dont let it bother you,its only metal,whip it back in shape. ;)

ruffrida2005 06-11-2009 12:43 AM

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Hey Alan you might want to try the ones I have, Hooker 2466HKR, These are painted. But they do have ceramic coated also. 2466-1HKR. They fit really nice. I'll get a pic up tomorrow of mine on the motor and frame

Strodder 06-11-2009 12:59 AM

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That's too bad Allan. Those were nice headers. I don't think the frame looks that bad. Do you think you weakened it by notching it? If so just brace it with a "L" angle steel, drill it, paint it and bolt it in top & side of frame. Just a brain fart, but it might work.

Lesson learned,
1. fabricate
2. assemble complete vehicle
3. fix mistakes
4. disassemble completely
5. then paint
6. final assembly

Alan's Classic 06-11-2009 06:52 AM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
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Originally Posted by Inverter (Post 3354017)
Oh Hell,dont sweat it man. It wont be the last thing that doesnt work out. Worst case,pull the motor and front sheetmetal and patch the rails.
Dont let it bother you,its only metal,whip it back in shape. ;)

I'm glad were here to pull each other up when they fall. Thanks

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Originally Posted by ruffrida2005 (Post 3354064)
Hey Alan you might want to try the ones I have, Hooker 2466HKR, These are painted. But they do have ceramic coated also. 2466-1HKR. They fit really nice. I'll get a pic up tomorrow of mine on the motor and frame

Thanks Man! I went thru my build last night looking for headers people had suggested. Post upome pics that would be great.

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Originally Posted by Strodder (Post 3354088)
That's too bad Allan. Those were nice headers. I don't think the frame looks that bad. Do you think you weakened it by notching it? If so just brace it with a "L" angle steel, drill it, paint it and bolt it in top & side of frame. Just a brain fart, but it might work.

Lesson learned,
1. fabricate
2. assemble complete vehicle
3. fix mistakes
4. disassemble completely
5. then paint
6. final assembly

I'm just demonstrating the importance of pre fitting. :haha:

70 Suburban 06-11-2009 07:49 AM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
Hmmm maybe you should add that to your list.... He he he

daverod 06-11-2009 09:30 AM

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I feel for you Allan. That sucks:mad: If I was you I'd blame it all on Strodder.:lol: Now go find some different headers and get that truck running.:metal::metal:

ruffrida2005 06-11-2009 04:13 PM

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Here ya go Alan, this is the only pic I have with the headers on. I'll get some more next when I'm at my parents!

Alan's Classic 06-12-2009 11:29 AM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
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Originally Posted by daverod (Post 3354363)
I feel for you Allan. That sucks:mad: If I was you I'd blame it all on Strodder.:lol: Now go find some different headers and get that truck running.:metal::metal:

:haha: I have no one to blame except for myself.

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Originally Posted by ruffrida2005 (Post 3354967)
Here ya go Alan, this is the only pic I have with the headers on. I'll get some more next when I'm at my parents!

Thanks for the pic ruff. :metal: Hopefully my headers will sell soon so I can get some other ones.

protrash64 06-12-2009 01:05 PM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
That sucks about the headers, Alan. It will come together.

I have a suggestion for ya, if you get the chance. For us DIY body workers, how do you clean up your spreaders? Or do you just pitch them? I'm also interested in how you deal with your waste products such as sanding dust and the gun cleaner/mineral spirits/thinner that you use. Its probably second nature to you, but I need some ideas as Im setting up my space to be able to spray. Thanx and keep up the good work.

70 Suburban 06-12-2009 01:33 PM

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Not sure what he does but i let the spent solvent evaporate. Same with the left over paint and primer. Epa says if its a slolid i can throw it in the trash. But i also use the 3m cups so i just set them out and throw them away. Dust goes in the trash. Epa states you can spray 12 cubic feet a day without a booth. As for the spreaders well peel it off just as the filler gets hard.. Leave a layer of it on the spreader and that makes it ez to peel

protrash64 06-12-2009 04:00 PM

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Thanx for the info 70; the 3M cups are the mixing cups? for ratio?

70 Suburban 06-12-2009 04:56 PM

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no Im sorry i was refering to the pps mixing cups. I mix spray and throw them away. for me I find them to save alot of time and thinner. I mix the paint in them then spray then let the cup sit and when the paint is dry I toss it out

scotts62 06-12-2009 07:52 PM

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^^ See im a cheap arse and id rather clean them up than buy a .59 cup because its over 20 miles to where i get them :lol:

jgh64pkup 06-12-2009 08:17 PM

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OKC doesnt have any hardware stores??:confused:

70 Suburban 06-12-2009 08:18 PM

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from okc?? dont you have sherwin williams.. they sell them. tasco color. car quest... ?? I thnk oriles sels them too well you can order them. I dot it because its less mess and clean up. I dont have to mix it in a cup Im going to toss then pour it into a cup I have to use solvent to clean. so i guess im green.. lol

tiggamonsta 06-12-2009 08:40 PM

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When my dad first opened his shop he would set is excess liquids in the disposable aluminum pans you get at the grocery store. Then he would set it in an open air covered area to evaporate/harden. He did this for a couple years until his shop started to grow.

jgh64pkup 06-12-2009 09:06 PM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
these are like the headers i have but mine are 1 5/8 not 1 3/4
and mine have 3 in collector these have 3 1/2 collector
i want some of these but in ahc coatingheaders

Alan's Classic 06-12-2009 09:12 PM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
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Originally Posted by protrash64 (Post 3356370)
That sucks about the headers, Alan. It will come together.

I have a suggestion for ya, if you get the chance. For us DIY body workers, how do you clean up your spreaders? Or do you just pitch them? I'm also interested in how you deal with your waste products such as sanding dust and the gun cleaner/mineral spirits/thinner that you use. Its probably second nature to you, but I need some ideas as Im setting up my space to be able to spray. Thanx and keep up the good work.

I keep telling myself it will come together someday........I just hope I'm still able to drive any enjoy it. :haha: Read on about my answer to your other question.

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Originally Posted by 70 Suburban (Post 3356399)
Not sure what he does but i let the spent solvent evaporate. Same with the left over paint and primer. Epa says if its a slolid i can throw it in the trash. But i also use the 3m cups so i just set them out and throw them away. Dust goes in the trash. Epa states you can spray 12 cubic feet a day without a booth. As for the spreaders well peel it off just as the filler gets hard.. Leave a layer of it on the spreader and that makes it ez to peel

That's some good info on EPA. I don't spray much at home only what I have too. I also use the PPS cups. They are the best thing since sliced bread. Once the product dries up in the PPS liner I just toss it. As far as solvent I just let my waste evaporate in a oil drain pan. I've probably only used a gallon of thinner in 2 years at home. PPS cups save alot of thinner. I'll reuse my spreaders until I can't use them any more. I just use thinner on a rag and wipe them off. Or just leave it to harden and peel it off.

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Originally Posted by scotts62 (Post 3356863)
^^ See im a cheap arse and id rather clean them up than buy a .59 cup because its over 20 miles to where i get them :lol:

Have you used the PPS liners yet?

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Originally Posted by 70 Suburban (Post 3356885)
from okc?? dont you have sherwin williams.. they sell them. tasco color. car quest... ?? I thnk oriles sels them too well you can order them. I dot it because its less mess and clean up. I dont have to mix it in a cup Im going to toss then pour it into a cup I have to use solvent to clean. so i guess im green.. lol

:agree: Liners are cheaper than cups IMO. They also have the graduated liner that goes in the PPS cup (not liner) to measure by. It goes between the cup and the liner. It's pretty slick.

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Originally Posted by tiggamonsta (Post 3356920)
When my dad first opened his shop he would set is excess liquids in the disposable aluminum pans you get at the grocery store. Then he would set it in an open air covered area to evaporate/harden. He did this for a couple years until his shop started to grow.

Another good idea.

Alan's Classic 06-12-2009 09:14 PM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
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Originally Posted by jgh64pkup (Post 3356965)
these are like the headers i have but mine are 1 5/8 not 1 3/4
and mine have 3 in collector these have 3 1/2 collector
i want some of these but in ahc coatingheaders

:thumbs: Thanks for the link Gage.

protrash64 06-12-2009 09:40 PM

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Thanx for the tips guys. I shoulda figured that there were liners available, Ive used them in paint trays for house painting projects for the same reason.

Alan's Classic 06-12-2009 09:47 PM

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Just had to share a little of what I do at work. This along with any hard side hit sucks. Power sliding doors makes even harder. Thank goodness this one is manual. I don't have any before pics with me, but this is where it's at today. I have already replaced the suspension. The wheel was drove in and back.

http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/t...t/DSC00208.jpg

And this is what I get to put in. They don't sell these pieces seperately like most cars.

http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/t...t/DSC00210.jpg

scotts62 06-12-2009 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan's Classic (Post 3356978)
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Have you used the PPS liners yet?

No i haven't yet. i want to because it makes everything so much easier to just mix the paint put a lid on it and spray. I s that what you are using? Where is the best place to get it? I have seen them in Auto body tool mart.

ps, sorry for all the questions :lol:

scotts62 06-12-2009 09:51 PM

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Thats cool, I liked the bodyshop i worked at and the kind of work but there were too many babies:ben: there that whined about everything and they basically starved me out and i went back to wrenching on semis.. and paint on the side ;)

protrash64 06-12-2009 09:55 PM

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I'll stop whining about sanding on my warped bedsides now:eek:

Alan's Classic 06-12-2009 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by protrash64 (Post 3357030)
Thanx for the tips guys. I shoulda figured that there were liners available, Ive used them in paint trays for house painting projects for the same reason.

:thumbs:

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Originally Posted by scotts62 (Post 3357040)
No i haven't yet. i want to because it makes everything so much easier to just mix the paint put a lid on it and spray. I s that what you are using? Where is the best place to get it? I have seen them in Auto body tool mart.

ps, sorry for all the questions :lol:

If you don't know already you will have to get an adapter for your specific model gun to use the PPS system. I have been using them for 6-7 years (when they demonstrated at our shop). If you don't have a good connection with a paint supplier I don't know where the best place to get them would be. I ordered a case (100/ct) 2 years ago and just used my 50th one. You ask how do you know you used the 50th one. No.....I'm not counting them, they come in 2 sleeves of 50/ea. :lol: I have seen them in Autobody toolmart also.

Don't worry about the questions that's what we are here for to help each other.

scotts62 06-12-2009 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by protrash64 (Post 3357055)
I'll stop whining about sanding on my warped bedsides now:eek:

:lol::lol: I wasn't referring to you man just the shop i worked at. I whine about doing it too but like it.. does that make sense..:crazy::lol:

If you don't know already you will have to get an adapter for your specific model gun to use the PPS system. I have been using them for 6-7 years (when they demonstrated at our shop). If you don't have a good connection with a paint supplier I don't know where the best place to get them would be. I ordered a case (100/ct) 2 years ago and just used my 50th one. You ask how do you know you used the 50th one. No.....I'm not counting them, they come in 2 sleeves of 50/ea. :lol: I have seen them in Autobody toolmart also.

Don't worry about the questions that's what we are here for to help each other.
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:lol:

Yeah i knew about the adapter for the gun, im going to have to get some of them and check it out.

Your good at posting and and then being offline.. are you being sneaky and hiding under the radar?? :lol:

Alan's Classic 06-12-2009 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by scotts62 (Post 3357084)
:lol::lol: I wasn't referring to you man just the shop i worked at. I whine about doing it too but like it.. does that make sense..:crazy::lol:
Yeah i knew about the adapter for the gun, im going to have to get some of them and check it out.

Your good at posting and and then being offline.. are you being sneaky and hiding under the radar?? :lol:

Clear as mud :haha: JK

Ancient chinese secret. :lol:

Alan's Classic 06-12-2009 10:27 PM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
Along with all my other projects going on I'm also trying to do a step by step on how to rebuild vent windows. I've got one disassymbled. Now I need to clean and paint the frame and order some glass. Here is one pic of the progress.

http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/t...d/DSC00201.jpg

70 Suburban 06-12-2009 10:57 PM

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Here is the setup

protrash64 06-13-2009 12:31 AM

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[quote=scotts62;3357084]:lol::lol: I wasn't referring to you man just the shop i worked at. I whine about doing it too but like it.. does that make sense..:crazy::lol:

I know you weren't, I couldn't believe the van Alan had pictured. I dont mind doing it either but my elbows disagree. How long 'til elbow replacement surgery:lol:...

[QUOTE=Alan's Classic;3357112]Along with all my other projects going on I'm also trying to do a step by step on how to rebuild vent windows. I've got one disassymbled. Now I need to clean and paint the frame and order some glass. Here is one pic of the progress.

I'm following this because I will be doing this in the next couple months:metal:

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Originally Posted by 70 Suburban (Post 3357164)
Here is the setup

70 Sub sprays with one hand and surfs with other:jdp:....wow!

70 Suburban 06-13-2009 01:06 AM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
its mad skills. that how I learned to spray left handed. ohh and I can switch hands and never let off the trigger or slow down.....lol

jgh64pkup 06-13-2009 01:08 AM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
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Originally Posted by protrash64 (Post 3357055)
I'll stop whining about sanding on my warped bedsides now:eek:

warped bedsides that sounds familiar

70 Suburban 06-13-2009 01:10 AM

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lol i have not made it to the bed yet. I still dread the hood. I have a couple of oil can spots.. well one on each side the size of texas

scotts62 06-13-2009 12:39 PM

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Yeah im going to have to order some and try em out.

70 Suburban 06-13-2009 11:04 PM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
i think you will be hooked. but you have to buy the adapter for your gun. so ether know what you have or what you need. for the sata I had to buy 2. one for the twist lock and one threaded

scotts62 06-14-2009 01:09 AM

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I have the Develbliss threaded, ill check it out from Auto body tool mart.

shortbed70 06-15-2009 05:35 PM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
I am going to be getting some from eastwood catalog they have the starter kit for 99.00 and I think it would help using gravity feed while spraying cab roof and underside of fender lips. Glad to see the trucks coming along alan.

SeanPaintsFlames 06-15-2009 06:16 PM

Re: My 1965 build thread
 
I use those PPS liners at the shop, too. What I do, though, instead of letting the paint dry in the cup -'cause that can take forever with base coat- is to pour it in an empty gallon can, then throw the emptied cup away. I use the same gallon can to dispose of left over clear, sealer. primer, and base, so it all dries together. I throw about 5 gallons away a year. THis way, you don't have a bunch of cups crowding your table top like this:
http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/i...45623c7519.jpg

Alan's Classic 06-15-2009 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by shortbed70 (Post 3361543)
I am going to be getting some from eastwood catalog they have the starter kit for 99.00 and I think it would help using gravity feed while spraying cab roof and underside of fender lips. Glad to see the trucks coming along alan.

I don't think it has been mentioned yet, but you can spray with the PPS upside down if you want. When you first load it turn it upside down and pull the trigger. It sucks all of the air out of the liner and creates a vacumn so no mater how you hold the gun you will have a constant flow of paint.


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