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rgunlock 12-03-2017 09:22 PM

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I feel your pain Mike, but sounds like you made pretty good progress in spite of setbacks. Just noticed the Fox shocks you have up front. I just spent the afternoon installing a pair of them on my truck for steering stabilizers.

DD1 12-03-2017 11:38 PM

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You are making great progress, Mike! Keep it up!

7dee2 12-09-2017 11:09 PM

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Dang doors! Glad you got it opened, keep plugging away.

swamp rat 12-10-2017 03:51 AM

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Thanks guys, I have been plugging away.

Here's a tool I wish I had when my door was stuck, I just bought 2 of them for future use different brand but they should work the same. it would have been better than scratching my paint with a tire iron lifting the door, life goes on..

https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1TYLQP...pg_640x640.jpg

I installed my push on door seals, very tight fit on both sides so hoping they will break in a bit when it warms up. there's got to be a way to make the fit better but I haven't found it yet, guess i'll let a body guy handle it in the future. I wish I was a better body guy instead of a guy who's body hurts at every movement LOL!

I laid down all the stereo cables and wires and tapped them in place on the floor then under layment which is a sound deadening layer, jute padding and carpet went back in to give it all a bit of time to lay flat before the seat go's back in. I still need to install the threshold plates to hold the carpet in place.

I spent a good portion of time trying to install the corner speaker mounts I bought here on the forum from bigblock73, they have a screw at the top and an angle bracket at the bottom that your supposed to drill and screw into the floor of the cab, well I really don't want to drill holes thru the floor so I tried to JB Weld them to the floor, I figured out where I needed the bracket then removed the paint from the floor with a 2" scotchbrite disk, roughed the bracket then cleaned with acetone, mixed the JB weld applied and let it sit overnight, as soon as I started attaching the screws the brackets popped off the floor and the JB weld was still soft, I guess it was too cold at about 40 something. Any ideas to bond the brackets to the floor would be appreciated. Here's the purchase thread showing pic's of the unit.

I should add, if I don't find a bonding agent soon i'll have to go ahead and drill and screw the bracket to the floor so I can get my seat installed.

EDIT: I know I can weld them in place, trying to avoid burning the paint on the bottom of the floor, another option is to go get some well nuts.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=476976

I reinstalled my battery, pulled the air fuel screws and gave each port a shot of carb cleaner and re installed, installed my remote start button and fired up the engine today! no need to tear the carb apart thanks to the non ethanol gas I have been running in it, last time I ran it was 10-10-16 when I turned the truck around to start the repair on this side, sure glad I can still buy this gas!

https://youtu.be/AqWj25ycLiQ

swamp rat 12-10-2017 02:59 PM

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My biggest issue to date is the fan shroud seems to have shrunk thru the years, no matter what I keep smacking it with the blades, ether that or it's all in the cab and radiator support mounts. And that infamous belt squeal is back at high revs, many of you know I have been chasing they bugger forever.

swamp rat 12-10-2017 04:37 PM

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Door sill plates.... need screw type and size?? Hole size is .231, not dimpled for countersink.

swamp rat 12-10-2017 04:49 PM

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Next problem, front passenger caliper seeped dry, had to do a gravity bleed on that side to get the Rat to the driveway

swamp rat 12-11-2017 09:05 AM

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Gave up on bonding the lower brackets for the cab corner speaker enclosures and went ahead and drilled holes, got the enclosures in a coat of primer and drilled the 4 holes to screw the speakers in place.

Hate the lack of daylight this time of year! being on dayshift certainly puts a damper on progress when your truck is outside.

Would it be safe to assume the screw size for the sill plates are the same size as the screws for the transfer case shifter boot?

rgunlock 12-11-2017 12:52 PM

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Good to see your truck moving under its own power again. Engine sounds like its running smooth. I didn't hear the fan whacking the shroud in your video. Can't help with your screw size - I just found some stainless screws that had some bite going in and used them.

swamp rat 12-11-2017 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by rgunlock (Post 8102335)
Good to see your truck moving under its own power again. Engine sounds like its running smooth. I didn't hear the fan whacking the shroud in your video. Can't help with your screw size - I just found some stainless screws that had some bite going in and used them.

Yea I had to mess with the shroud and the radiator a bit to get it to stop but its still being temperamental, keeps hitting on the bottom but I cant adjust it down any further, and I cant tighten the radiator support mounts down any further. I went and bought some #10 stainless oval (curved) faced countersunk screws, tonight after work, hopefully they will work out, if they don't grab the hole enough I'll have to use button heads. I cant for the life of me remember what type sheetmetal screw was stock as my sil plates were removed long before I did the repair work.

Having the truck mobile again feels pretty nice! but its still a ways away from a driver.

swamp rat 12-15-2017 06:37 PM

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Working on the 25 or so year old stereo system (amplifier and rear speakers) it didn't take long to realize that the 1985 vintage Alpine 6x9 speakers were toast, still not sure if the amp is worth using, so I booked on down to Car Toys to listen to and purchase a new pair of speakers, was thinking oh, $80-$100..... Nope, not once you listen to them, ended up upping the anti to a pair of Focal 690ac coaxial 6x9's and because I was not really pleased with the Custom Autosound replacement stereo speaker I also sprung for a pair of Focal Isc100 4" speakers, I saved a thread where someone made there own bracket and stuffed 2 small speakers where the stock speaker was, figured I'd give it a shot. I still have a couple extra amps and crossover put away in my closet if I need a them.

I know I got lots more to do yet but daylight is an issue.

7dee2 12-20-2017 10:10 AM

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It's ALIVE! :lol: Good thing you had better gas in the Rat...

swamp rat 01-28-2018 03:12 AM

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Well what can I say, now that I'm a day shifter there's just been next to no daylight after work the last few months and what little I had was shrouded by the usual monsoon season, so I just put things on hold for a bit again, in the mean time not much in the way of progress.

Other things: I was at this place and wanted to take a picture of a tire and wheel on a truck, I had to back up a step to get it and didn't realize I stepped right next to a parking curb with my right foot, took the pic and stood up and tried to take a step to the right... my foot moved about an inch and hit the curb which through me off balance and all my weight on my right foot as I fell over the curb, took all that weight and pressure on the outside of my foot, no broken bones but a severely strained some tendons just below the outside ankle, 3 days on crutches, 3 days with a cane, still hurts with every step, and hurts worse the longer I'm on my feet, last thing I needed with my legs and feet but I'm dealing with it.

What was I doing at this business? see pic below. I have been drooling allover this truck (LT Z71) for the last 3 years, knowing that the new 2019 was revamped and not really liking the fact that I think it looks too much like a ford I decided to buy my retirement truck a few years early. I had the clear bra put on it, I have an appointment scheduled to get the front side windows tinted to match the rear sides, and doing my research for some aftermarket solid black wheels. One more thing I want to do is see if I can replace that piece of chrome on the lower front bumper with ether a matching black or body color piece, I've never been a chrome guy for the newer trucks, now classic trucks are a different story. Hopefully this will be the last newer truck I'll need to buy so I can concentrate on my hobbys!

rgunlock 01-28-2018 10:30 AM

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That's a sharp looking truck - congratulations! Hope your ankle heals soon Mike.

7dee2 01-28-2018 11:16 AM

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Yes sir very sharp, and I'm guessing most luxurious as well! Sorry to hear about the ankle Mike.

Vic1947 01-28-2018 02:52 PM

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Nice truck, Mike! Hope you're on the mend. I'd consider taking it to a graphics shop and having the chrome piece wrapped with black vinyl. Pretty sturdy stuff and they have compound curves down to a science these days.

swamp rat 01-28-2018 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Vic1947 (Post 8172322)
Nice truck, Mike! Hope you're on the mend. I'd consider taking it to a graphics shop and having the chrome piece wrapped with black vinyl. Pretty sturdy stuff and they have compound curves down to a science these days.

Great idea Vic! Thanks! And Thanks for the compliment too!

swamp rat 01-28-2018 06:56 PM

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Rgunlock and 7dee2 thanks!

swamp rat 02-04-2018 03:01 PM

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Got a question for the body guys:

Before I took the front end off my truck I snapped these pic's as documentation, on the upper fender bolts at the cab I had 2 shims in both of the front bolts and none in the back. Also looking at the truck before teardown it looks like the door also had the same misalignment problem of the top front door being in further than the top of the fender

Need to know what body spacers if any the rest of you guys have on your top fender bolts? and I'll assume that it allowed for proper hood fender gap?

NONHOG 06-08-2018 07:59 PM

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Hey Mike how you doing?
How's the truck doing?

swamp rat 06-09-2018 10:14 PM

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Hey Mike how you doing?
How's the truck doing?

I'm doing ok, fighting my feet a bit.

The truck has not made much progress though, Guess I have been side tracked a little, but now hat I have been able to get a fence up in my front yard I'll be able to let my newest dog run free out there and be able to resume work on the truck, he has proven to be a handful unlike our older Shepard who is just the opposite.

swamp rat 06-18-2018 01:06 AM

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The poke in the ribs from Nonhog did me some good....

Cleaned and blasted the hood hinges, got them primed and painted, mounted to the fenders (No pic)

The speaker enclosures were just in primer so I yarded them out and painted them Satin black and prepped them to mount the new speakers, remounted and installed the new Focal speakers


To recap I wired up the old Sherwood amp and the old Alpine speakers and they sounded like crap realized the old system was from the mid 80's and bought new Focal speakers that I posted a while back, I mounted the new Focal 6 X 9's and they still didn't make much of an improvement so I yarded out the old Sherwood amp and got a mid 90's Precision Power amp that I had in my old 95 S10, wired it up and it was an improvement but still not enough to make me smile. I come to the conclusion that that Custom Auto Sound head unit I bought about 4 years ago must be the problem so eventually its going to have to come out and be replaced.

I installed the sill plates today and noted that the lip on the rocker is leaning in a bit so the door seal lays in a bit, I may have to eventually bend them out a little?

Naturally Murphy's law kicked in and my passenger door handle gave up the ghost, I was fortunate enough to have bought a good used set on the parts form so I installed it sans gaskets for the time being

So my goal for the weekend was to get the seat into the truck, didn't happen, I forgot that I need to rig up the seat adjuster and I'll have to clear room out in the garage to move the seat out there to do it

Vic1947 06-18-2018 11:18 AM

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Speaker enclosures look nice, Mike. I understand your dissatisfaction... my system sounds pretty good under two scenarios, sitting in the truck with the engine off, or going down the road with the volume turned up on KILL. Playing the radio with normal volume while driving, however, results in less than stellar sound. Too much competition from the engine, wind, road and etc. I guess. Since I'm half deaf, I need the sound cranked up, while Kathy has excellent hearing and hates it when I have the volume too loud. So we end up turning the stereo off for the most part. Hope you get it sorted out to your liking!

DD1 06-20-2018 11:03 PM

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It's looking nice, Mike! Where did you get the shoulder belt setup?

I kind of wish I was not using the gas tank in the cab, but I can't really budget for a frame mount tank right now. I would like to be able to put speakers in the back.

swamp rat 06-21-2018 12:03 AM

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It's looking nice, Mike! Where did you get the shoulder belt setup?

I kind of wish I was not using the gas tank in the cab, but I can't really budget for a frame mount tank right now. I would like to be able to put speakers in the back.

I honestly don't remember, they have been in the truck for many years, long before I started this project, but they are available through almost all the parts houses.

I decided I'd better go ahead and mount up my small sub woofers and a seconds amp into the back before I put my seat in the truck, don't wanna pull the seat out again later.

I got a space cleared out in the garage and got the seat moved out of my bedroom and into the garage, that sucker is heavy! then had to spend a couple days after work setting up air conditioners to cool this place down.

DD1 06-21-2018 12:04 AM

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I honestly don't remember, they have been in the truck for many years, long before I started this project, but they are available through almost all the parts houses.

I decided I'd better go ahead and mount up my small sub woofers and a seconds amp into the back before I put my seat in the truck, don't wanna pull the seat out again later.

I googled it after I responded to you and found them at several places; not too expensive either.

I agree that putting the sound system in first was a good idea. Your truck is looking really good.

swamp rat 06-22-2018 08:06 AM

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Question, Does the seat rod need to be curved and attached to the bottom of the seat? the rod I bought is about 2" too long, also the key I bought from the same guy doesn't fit in the base so not sure if he sold me the wrong parts?

My original rod was broken and removed from my original seat many years ago so I have nothing to serve as a visual. I will verify that the bases I bought are the same as what is on my seat later today.

Where do these adjuster springs attach?

DD1 06-22-2018 09:48 AM

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Hey Mike,

I’ll be going out to run some errands in a while. I’ll check my seat and let you know.

Darien

DD1 06-22-2018 05:50 PM

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Question, Does the seat rod need to be curved and attached to the bottom of the seat? the rod I bought is about 2" too long, also the key I bought from the same guy doesn't fit in the base so not sure if he sold me the wrong parts?

My original rod was broken and removed from my original seat many years ago so I have nothing to serve as a visual. I will verify that the bases I bought are the same as what is on my seat later today.

Where do these adjuster springs attach?

Hey Mike, I am not sure what rod you are referring to. I looked at my seat and I see the cable that was attached between the seat mounts. Let me know if I should be looking somewhere else.

https://uniim1.shutterfly.com/ng/ser...703928/enhance

swamp rat 06-23-2018 12:09 AM

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Darien

Hate to say it but it looks like you don't have a stock seat, the 67-72 seats all have the adjuster on the outside next to the door. the springs are different too.


The rod I was referring to can be seen in my previous post, its a rod that measures .157 in diameter and is bent on the ends to go into the adjuster keys. you can see on one pic its hooked up and the other its laying about 2" past the adjuster key.

I snapped another couple pic's of it.

I removed the stock seat brackets, they are the same as the ones I have on my new seat, but the passenger side does have a different key but ether of them will work in my stock bracket, just for some reason the slot in the new bracket is a bit small so its gonna get the file treatment soon.

Would still like to determine if the 67-72 seats had a wire or the .157 rod but if it will work with a bend in it and attached to the seat frame I'll use it.

The rest of the stereo goodies less the subs.


Working this weekend so don't know how much I'm gonna get done.....

DD1 06-23-2018 01:26 AM

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Darien

Hate to say it but it looks like you don't have a stock seat, the 67-72 seats all have the adjuster on the outside next to the door. the springs are different too.


The rod I was referring to can be seen in my previous post, its a rod that measures .157 in diameter and is bent on the ends to go into the adjuster keys. you can see on one pic its hooked up and the other its laying about 2" past the adjuster key.

I snapped another couple pic's of it.

I removed the stock seat brackets, they are the same as the ones I have on my new seat, but the passenger side does have a different key but ether of them will work in my stock bracket, just for some reason the slot in the new bracket is a bit small so its gonna get the file treatment soon.

Would still like to determine if the 67-72 seats had a wire or the .157 rod but if it will work with a bend in it and attached to the seat frame I'll use it.

The rest of the stereo goodies less the subs.


Working this weekend so don't know how much I'm gonna get done.....

Interesting. Well I bought the seat used before I realized I should stop buying parts I don't need right away. I threw away the original seat, but I kept the brackets.

I looked on LMC's site and they only show a wire going through the seat, not a rod. Hope that helps. I will have to take a look at my original seat brackets when I get back from vacation. Have to catch a flight in 4-1/2 hours. No sleep tonight.

If the rod you have works, I agree - just use it.

swamp rat 06-27-2018 12:49 AM

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Slow progress....

I filed the passenger slider bracket and fitted one of the keys and installed, did some research and figured out the rod bends upward towards the seat and is attached by one or two rings, I also added a couple small springs to the rod to add a little tension.

Now i'm assuming the driver side only has the spring?

7dee2 06-28-2018 09:19 AM

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Slow progress is way better than no progress, keep at it! We've had the bench seat out of Blue (in storage currently) several times but I don't have any pics of the underside of the seat. Have you tried posting in the main pickup section yet?

swamp rat 06-29-2018 07:52 AM

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Slow progress is way better than no progress, keep at it! We've had the bench seat out of Blue (in storage currently) several times but I don't have any pics of the underside of the seat. Have you tried posting in the main pickup section yet?

I didn't bother posting but Googled it using "72 chevy bench seat adjuster 67-72" that searches the forum as well as whatever else, I found the info I needed.

This weekend I plan on continuing on my stereo install and replacing the front passenger caliper that leaked out while sitting.

Here's a pic of my spaghetti mess, this stuff has been in my closet for a long time so I have been re acquainting myself on how it all hooks back up, looking up manuals ect.

Vic1947 06-29-2018 01:53 PM

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Here's a pic of my spaghetti mess, this stuff has been in my closet for a long time so I have been re acquainting myself on how it all hooks back up, looking up manuals etc.

I can relate to that!! Eventually the light bulb goes back on though. ;)

swamp rat 07-01-2018 01:54 AM

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I can relate to that!! Eventually the light bulb goes back on though. ;)

Yea its coming back to me, but this new system is also requiring better power leads ect, lots more work than I had originally wanted to do.

While I'm at it here can you verify that this grey wire coming out of the harness close to the key switch ( as in 3" from it ) might attach to this grey wire coming from my column?

swamp rat 07-01-2018 02:31 AM

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So I figured I'd better have a closer look at the head unit being as I needed to change the RCA outs for the new system, pulled the rear set out, then the front, when I got off my back and stood up I noticed a little round red dounut on the carpet, closer inspection showed the connector pulled right out of the head unit rear right RCA. Part of the bad sound problem? I'm sure it didn't help.


Decided to remove the head unit at that point, upon removal I found the ground wire had been severed, I still for the life of me cant figure this one out, it didn't reach the gas or break pedal, the only thing close is the heater controls.. But it is what it is.. part of the problem...


After removal of the head unit I looked at that Custom Autosound speaker I installed about 5 years ago, covered in grinding particles, I do believe someone on this forum warned me about this right Vic??? Well at least I can say I was not happy with the sound quality to begin with. Out it came as well, but not without leaving 1/2 of the speakers cardboard surround and fine mesh stuck to the under side of the dash.


So I did the destruction, went up town and bought he new power cable and a few connectors, got the system almost wired up, the the head unit on the floor as well, I'm going to at least see if it will work out of the front channel before I fork out money on another unit witch would probably be a Retrosound unit.

Not too sure if the new front speakers I bought a while back will fit above the head unit, the tweeter sticks above the mounting surface a smidge over 1/4" so I may take the easy way out and drill out a couple new holes in the rear speaker corner brackets instead.

swamp rat 07-01-2018 08:51 PM

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Have you ever bought an expensive part to use down the road then you can’t find it when the time comes? I have spent the last 2 hours looking for it with no luck yet, a nice original tac dash. Had it in one of my spare rooms then had to move it out of there about 6 months ago, talk about frustration! I was hoping to install it now but......

Oh the stereo system is operational, only needed one set of RCA outs from the head unit, both front and rear have the same wattage so it’s usable, everything is routed and secured with zip ties, I don’t think I need to worry about mounting the front speakers in the corner brackets, least not yet :)

DD1 07-01-2018 11:43 PM

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Have you ever bought an expensive part to use down the road then you can’t find it when the time comes? I have spent the last 2 hours looking for it with no luck yet, a nice original tac dash. Had it in one of my spare rooms then had to move it out of there about 6 months ago, talk about frustration! I was hoping to install it now but......

That has happened to me with expensive and inexpensive parts. I hope you find it soon - that's not something you want to buy twice. Good luck in your search. I can totally relate.

swamp rat 07-03-2018 11:10 PM

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Still can’t find my elusive tach dash!


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