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That's a very neat mount Mark. How does it mount at the bottom suction cup or bolt?

Bret

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Sorry, I should have shown the two pieces separately. The phone mount has a standard 1/4x20 threaded hole in the bottom, and there are a variety of standard adapters available. I happen to use a tripod quick release, but there are swivel ball mounts, suction cups and other accessories on the market that will hook right up.

Here's what the bottom looks like with the adapter removed:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/849/lyr9.jpg

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This afternoon I relocated the engine vacuum gauge from the steering column to the side panel forward of the spotlight handle:

Before:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/513/9qvx.jpg

After:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/69/5kg5.jpg


This is in preparation for a new non-tilt steering column with a chrome or stainless finish. I’m focusing on this one from Ididit at the moment:


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/24/ndlf.jpg


I’m also considering retiring the Covico wheel to my parts collection and replacing it with one of the new high quality black versions from Moon:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/34/kzlj.jpg

And depending how it all goes together I might also include an Ididit adapter as the shape reminds me of the old Covico adapters:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/41/b31u.jpg

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mark, thats the toughest looking dash out there. like all you've done including the portholes. and the sound from the dumps... awesome.

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Mark,

Before you pull the trigger on that column check this guy out. I put one in my 64 along with a Grant wheel and it's nice.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=486139

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Thanks for the tip Dean. I'll check him out.

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I guess this means I’m committed to a new steering column. As of tonight the truck is out of service again for a few days. Here’s a photo of its ugliest feature. Everything that looks rusty and nasty will be stripped and repainted before going back together:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/35/w7lm.jpg

This shot shows where the column opening in the dash is all scratched up from where I cut off the upper corner of the lower steering column bell so I could shorten the column long ago. All damages will be sanded down and reshot with lacquer that matches the dash:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/853/i8rk.jpg

Here’s the factory (Monte Carlo) intermediate shaft u-joint that will be replaced with a Borgeson joint:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/35/y6tn.jpg

And for anyone that’s ever wondered what these look like inside, here are the components after getting it apart. The two square blocks fit on the pin and ride up and down in the steel housing. The assembly is held together with a snap ring and a (usually torn) rubber boot:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/34/pg72.jpg

After taking the photo I drove the pin out of the shaft and knocked the sleeve off, so it will be easier to cut once I determine the final length.

This has to be the longest bell/tilt mechanism I’ve ever seen (8 ¾”), which explains why I cut it up years ago to gain some additional belly room.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/829/l2zl.jpg

I did check out KevsClassics. He sure has a great reputation, but does mostly tilt columns, and I wanted something off the shelf so I have my back up ride returned to service quickly. I am going to see if he wants my old tilt column for parts (for the cost of shipping). Thanks Dean for putting me on to him.

So I ordered the stuff I showed earlier plus the required Borgeson joint to hook it up. Tomorrow I get to assemble & install a new garden windmill and hang plastic pegboard in the sewing room. Once that’s done I’ll be back to cleaning/painting parts and waiting for the new stuff to show up.

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Not much to share tonight. Spent a couple hours on the intermediate shaft this morning. Cut off the area where the cross pin used to be, and shaped what was left to match the rest of the double D portion of the shaft in case I need another 1/4” or so. Once it is final fitted with the new column and u-joint, I’ll trim off the excess length. I couldn’t find my can of Krylon Dull Aluminum, so it was sprayed with Martin Senour Iron Cast Gray instead. I think it will look much more attractive anyway when bolted up to a polished stainless Borgeson joint at the bottom of the chrome steel column.

I pulled all the removable steering column attachment pieces from under the dash and wire wheeled them to bare metal. Finished that up just about the time the sewing room pegboard and garden windmill arrived, which explains why I forgot to take pictures of the parts all stripped to shiny bare metal.

The windmill consumed the afternoon. By the time I got back to the truck stuff it was dark outside, so no windmill photos tonight. Our previous version was a cheap Chinese model that held up remarkably well for about 10 years. The new aluminum version has very little in common with the old one other than both were 8’ tall. The legs are made of tubing, are farther apart at the base, there is about twice as much bracing, and all the fasteners are stainless steel. The fan/wheel is 2” bigger in diameter and everything fit perfectly with no bad language needed during assembly!

Before cleaning up for the night I washed all the column parts with wax & grease remover a second time. They were shot with Rustoleum black lacquer, and all five items came out smooth and shiny:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/856/sv1p.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/18/vl9b.jpg

I was going to spray them with satin finish, but I thought the high gloss black might look better against the chrome column. The only two items left to accomplish before the column shows up is to paint the emergency brake cable and clevis, and sand the dash opening around the column and get that repainted.

I’ll probably do the dash touch up tomorrow and solicit my wife to finish the brake cable, as it requires a lot more bending and twisting than my back likes to tolerate.

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Looking good, Mark. I think the shiny black will look just fine with all your other gloss black inside the cab.

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Thanks Phillip. I just confirmed the steering wheel adapter will be here today, and the column and U-joint are due tomorrow. I may have to run my old Covico wheel for a while since Mooneyes is known for being slow to ship.

Regardless I'm looking forward to having the truck back together by the weekend, all nice and shiny!

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The Ididit steering wheel adapter arrived today, and man that thing is a work of art.

I’m tempted to hang the Moon wheel on the wall and keep the Covico in service, simply because the new adapter really makes it look like an authentic Covico wheel.

The tapered style and additional height compared to the traditional Grant/Superior bell look so much like the 1960’s Covico Adapters. Here’s an ad showing the original:

http://imageshack.us/a/img17/4506/covicoinstall002a.jpg

And here’s my Covico wheel sitting on both styles of adapter:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/21/8wao.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/34/drby.jpg

I occurred to me the only items that actually fasten the column in place are the upper and lower clamps, so I went ahead and loosely reassembled all the under dash pieces today. My wife also painted the brake cable, and I refinished the dash opening for the column. It turns out my firewall is still ugly, but I don’t look under there enough to care. At least the brackets look pretty good now:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/853/7r0b.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/594/w1gc.jpg

Tomorrow should be a simple matter of installing the intermediate shaft & U-joint, sliding the column in place, connecting the wiring and reinstalling the cluster. The of course I’ll need to take it for a test drive to see how much the mileage has improved! ;)

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It should get at least 10% better mileage with all that bling!

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That’s what I always tell the wife as justification for all these expenses. According to her calculations I should already be getting around 75 mpg!

Well there’s been a delay of game. I couldn’t sleep last night so around 2 am I decided to order up the clutch pedal bumper that went missing. While I was on the Chevy Duty site, it occurred to me there must be some kind of seal that goes around the column at the firewall. Sure enough there’s a foam seal that goes under a sheet metal plate that is sandwiched between the plate and the firewall. In all the years I’ve owned the truck I never really paid attention to this detail. Years ago I just slopped sealer around the column to make sure it was air tight. I don’t think that’s going to cut it with a new chrome column.

So I tossed the seal in the basket and placed the order. This morning I went out and looked at the firewall, and discovered the ugly black seal retaining plate was removable. So out it came. Here’s the before picture:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/34/hzj2.jpg


A few minutes of attention with an angle grinder and a wire cup left it looking like this:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/534/ugcn.jpg

A double wash of wax & grease remover was followed up with a quick shot of U-Pol #8 Acid Primer followed by two coats of Rustoleum Black Lacquer:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/845/6cipe.jpg

Unfortunately I now have to wait for the seal to arrive before I can do the final installation of the column.

The column is due to arrive any moment. While I’m waiting for the seal I’ll mask up the column and slide it into place to determine the correct length of the intermediate shaft. I’ll then turn to the electrical connector and see what is going to be required to mate that up to my harness.

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The column and u-joint arrived about 2 pm. Rather than jumping into a test fit, I started sorting out the wiring connector. Fortunately I remembered I recently bought a rebuild kit for the turn signal, and it had all this stuff left over:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/703/hk68.jpg

The white connector on the right end is a stock GM model F connector, which is 4.25” long. Newer columns (and all new columns from Ididit) use a model P connector, which is 3 7/8” long. Not knowing which is in the vehicle being repaired, the turn signal repair kit included this adapter which allowed connecting the model F turn signal wiring to the model P connector, should that be what’s in the car:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/27/b9xl.jpg

The left end is male model P, the right end is female model F. This is what it looks like plugged in to the turn signal harness:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/855/6te6.jpg

Unfortunately I have what I believe used to be referred to as a model B connector. It’s a rectangle with 2 rows of four terminals:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/713/7ojr.jpg

This is what came with my steering column back in 1992 and I saw no reason to change it when I recently rewired the truck. Luckily both the new and previous Ron Francis wiring kits came with a female model P connector to create compatibility with newer columns:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/59/upqt.jpg

I used the older one (on the left) as it had the letter designations molded in the housing that match up with the male counterpart. I pulled 8 of the terminated wires out of the jumper housing that came with the turn signal kit. I don’t know what this style of terminal is called, and I have no replacements. So I jumped them to the turn signal harness and terminated the other end in my old model B plug:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/35/z4io.jpg

Since there is only a limited amount of wire poking out of the column, I now have more than enough to hook up to my main wiring harness behind the speedometer. Also, by leaving the model P connector in the circuit, I can easily remove the column in the future without have to remove the cluster to disconnect it.

Next step was drilling the lower end of the DD shaft to attach the U-joint. Per instructions a 3/8 inch hole was drilled for a long set screw to tighten against the inside of the tube:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/23/xhp0.jpg

The end of the column was placed over a waste basket, and Red Loctite was liberally poured over the screw, and subsequently over the nut as well. The polished joint was torqued in place:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/849/i62m.jpg

Finally the turn signal lever and 4 way flasher knob were attached. What looks like nicks or scratches on the chrome is actually flecks of Styrofoam packing material:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/823/aqi4.jpg

And here is where the project sits as of this evening:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/23/3aei.jpg

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That is SWEET! :metal:

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That new column will definitely be a cleaner look. Probably feel smoother while cruizin' too.

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I’ve disliked the old column for many years. Once I finally set a theme for the truck it looked big and clunky and I almost never used the tilt except when I was working under the dash. With a three bolt wheel, it’s so easy to remove I started doing that instead of tilting the column!

The other thing that has bothered me is that factory U-joint/coupler. With the column in its original location, that coupler always had the infamous GM clunk in it. When I trimmed the top of the lower column housing and moved the column closer to the dash, the clunk went away because the joint was riding higher in the housing. I have worried about how safe this is ever since I built the truck, but obviously not enough to replace the joint with a real one from Borgeson. Now everything will be new so I’m assuming it really will be smoother steering. And of course the chrome housing helps with that too! :lol:

Today was marginally productive. I masked off the column with blue tape and test fit it in the truck (sorry forgot to take pictures). With the intermediate shaft 7/16” too long, and the U-joint resting on top of the tip, the top of the column jacket is exactly 1” closer to the dash than the old column. With the steering wheel adapter being ¼” taller, and the dish of the new wheel being ¾” deeper than the Covico wheel, the rim of the steering wheel will end up in exactly the same location it was before.

So I pulled the column, trimmed 7/16” off the shaft, slid it into the U-joint and marked the set screw centers per instructions. These were then given a shallow 1/8” pilot hole followed up with a ¼” dimple. The end of the shaft was touched up with paint and cooked under the lamps to cure. Once the paint was dry it was bolted up to the flex coupler on the steering box:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/811/gfs7.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/812/zayd.jpg

In this last picture the shaft is resting on a shop magnet to hold it in alignment with the column position.

While the column was in place I also checked the routing of the wiring harness, and discovered it will be easiest to snap the model P connector together before the column is bolted in place. I’ll route the rest of the harness and hook it up to the main wiring connector behind the speedo before reinstalling the cluster panel. Should I ever need to pull the column in the future, I will no longer need to remove the instrument cluster, I’ll just disconnect the wiring from the column at the lower P connector.

Once I had no more physical items to work on I called Mooneyes to determine when my new steering wheel is due to arrive, which turned out to be a good thing. They show the wheel shipped Thursday, but have no idea where it was sent. So they processed a new shipment which left today (Saturday) and is due to arrive Monday. I certainly can’t complain about their customer service!

Now it’s a waiting game for when the firewall seal will show up. I’ve received two order confirmations, but no shipping info yet. I don’t imagine I’ll see any updates until Monday, which explains how I found the time to hang all the stuff on the new pegboard in my wife’s sewing room!

I’m tempted to take tomorrow off, but I’m sure I can find something to tinker with!

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The new column looks killer! :metal:

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Since I’m taking a forced break from the truck waiting for parts, I thought I’d share some of the stuff I do that keeps my wife happy with all my truck projects. As of this morning we had the ugly old fan shown in this first photo hanging in our living room. I use the lights, but have only run the fan maybe 3-4 times in 10 years:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/594/yfha.jpg

Last night my wife was once again lamenting the corner is so dark nobody can really enjoy the detail in the stagecoach robbery painting. And since we relocated the Franklin Mint Stagecoach to the top of the clock, it doesn’t show up well either. Long story short – as of this morning, the fan is gone and replaced with flexible track lighting from Home Depot:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/823/c3n4.jpg

And a couple of nights ago I installed two more plastic pegboard panels (the darker two on the left) in her sewing room. Yesterday afternoon I got the bug and started organizing and hanging her stuff with measuring tools on the left, tape items in the middle, and tools on the right. She changed it around about 10% to suit her tastes and that project was done.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/541/nd0o.jpg

Since the sewing room is in the basement I’ve previously installed tons of lighting and clear totes on storage racks so she can easily find anything she wants:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/31/kzbz.jpg

And here’s the aluminum windmill we put up the other day. It works really nice and since we live in a windy area, we refer to it numerous times a day to see what the conditions are like:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/837/skkx.jpg

This close up shows the little red barn bird feeder she picked up the other day. It was all red with a black roof, so I painted the white details on the ends so it would more closely look like the barn/shed I had built for her last year.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/69/op6q.jpg

Nothing truck related today, but we’ll see what tomorrow brings.

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Looks like a great place to call home. Love seeing your organizational skills. Your under-dash components cleaned up nicely & are much more attractive now. I look forward to seeing that shiny new column bolted in place. I apologize, but I couldn't help but laugh when I saw the pic of your steering shaft in the engine compartment. I said to myself, the next project will be cleaning/painting the front frame rails. :lol:

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No offense taken. Now you know why I hardly ever publish flash photos under the hood. The front of my frame/suspension looks terrible, and really deserves some attention. For that matter the whole chassis does. Unfortunately I have this defect in my brain that allows me to squander tons of money and time on something I’m enthusiastic about, while at the same time completely ignoring something else I’ve already taken care of and am no longer interested in. The chassis falls into that category.

I’m more likely to invest in chrome side glass frames and chrome vent windows than refurbishing the chassis again. Years ago I stripped everything forward of the firewall and painted it all gloss black. Same thing with the front suspension when it was swapped. Later I stripped the frame as best I could and my wife painted it all with POR-15. But 9 winters living in North Idaho and 20+ years on the road really took a toll and now the whole thing looks like crap and needs to be done over.

The easy feature is if I just leave the hood down, I don’t have to look at it! Disappointingly, much of the front end shows beyond the front tires so I may someday do a pressure wash and spray can upgrade, but I’m just getting too old to tear it all apart again to do it right. So the truck will most likely become a “closed hood hot rod” in the future, and I’ll continue to concentrate on the stuff I look at every time I drive it!

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Yeah, a simple pressure wash & spray can would do the trick. No need to blow it all apart. It's hard to keep a driver looking good, especially underneath. It's funny how you never really notice those minor imperfections until snapping a close-up photo. Just keep upgrading those things you're enthusiastic about, because they're much more eye-appealing. Some folks keep modifying until it begins to take away from the automobile, but I've yet to see anything you've done that doesn't work. Your truck just keeps getting more unique, & better!

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I woke up this morning, checked my email and received notification my 2nd order from Chevy Duty was shipped. Having received no notification about the previous order for the firewall to column seal, I assumed it was on back order and decided to make my own.

I went through my stash and found some closed cell foam the same thickness, along with some rubberized sheet material which was glued to both sides with 3M spray adhesive. It ended up looking like a brand new version of the original:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/203/7aju.jpg

Ironically, right after I completed fastening all the attachments for the column, the newly ordered seal unexpectedly arrived in the mail! It worked out well that I made my own. The Chevy Duty piece is missing the lower portion of the seal which wraps under the floor and surrounds the parking brake cable & grommet:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/541/5uqf.jpg

The imprint of the bead surrounding the full seal can be seen in the original above. I’m not sure what a person is supposed to use to fill in the missing section. I saw the catalog picture before placing the order, but never having removed the original seal, I had no idea what it supposed to look like.

The column installation was uneventful with a few minor exceptions. I needed to remove the U-joint from the column as the set screws stuck out too far out and ran into the column seal. Last night I removed all the blue tape from the chrome as it was beginning to stick, making removal difficult. This morning I retaped it is 6” pieces on the bottom of the column only. This made the tape easier to remove once the column was in the truck. And since the column rested in the lower column support, with a little extra care I didn’t really need any protective tape on the top or sides.

Here’s an under dash shot showing how much cleaner it looks now:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/829/q7u7.jpg

Here’s a shot with and without flash attempting to show some of the detail:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/703/n7s4.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/843/pc5u.jpg

And finally here are a couple of shots from the driver’s side:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/822/p9md.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/571/lbec.jpg

This was shot through the side of the windshield. In spite of the glare, the new column shape shows up pretty well:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/513/x3u7.jpg

There are a few little details to finish up. A tie wrap is needed to the left of the column, a replacement for the missing clutch bumper needs to be inserted, along with a new grommet for the parking brake cable (due to arrive tomorrow along with the new Moon steering wheel).

And of course something always needs to be repaired. While checking all the electrical systems I discovered the blinker led stopped working in the 4th porthole on the driver’s side. It’s a minor fix no matter what the problem. At least the new steering column is in. It works perfectly and I’m thrilled with the appearance!

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One last thought, here are a couple of before and after comparison photos:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/35/w7lm.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/829/q7u7.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/69/5kg5.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/854/96kk.jpg

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That new column is way nicer.

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Very nice work as usual, Mark. The new column looks much better.

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that turn out great mark

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Much prettier & cleaner now! :bling2:

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Looks great Mark, nice work!

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SO CLEAN!!! :metal::metal::metal:

Attention to Detail...:jdp:

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Thanks for the comments guys. In addition to better looks, the steering also feels “tighter” with the loss of the tilt mechanism and the factory U-joint/coupler hooking up to the intermediate shaft.

Back out in the garage today investigating why the 4th porthole blinker light wasn’t working, I discovered the LED in the porthole worked fine. I tracked the problem back to the electronic sequencer. The yellow wire feeding the 4th light was no longer sending a signal. So I pulled it out for return to the manufacturer:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/600/edes.jpg

For the time being I hooked all the lights into a single circuit so all 4 blink at once, while the passenger side still sequences. If I’m provided with a warranty replacement I’ll simply reinstall it. If that doesn’t go well I’ll pull the other one as well and abandon the sequencers. They were/are fun, but it also looks cool with all four blinking at once.

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The new Moon steering wheel showed up around 3:00, and I got to work on it right away. This first shot is the new wheel photographed without flash:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/836/6rn9.jpg

And here’s the vintage Covico wheel without flash:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/841/jis7.jpg

Sadly this is what the Covico wheel looks like when taken with flash photography. Here is just looks dull. In other photos it looks rusty red:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/585/rwc3.jpg

And here’s the new Moon wheel installed. Both the chrome and the plastic and immaculate:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/835/1l53.jpg

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Nice! I like the 4 hole spokes in the new wheel.:metal:

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Earlier today I responded to a question in the “What did you do to your truck today” thread. It filled in several gaps so I thought I should also post the information in my build thread.

I have a floor shifted 4 speed manual transmission, and the key remains on the dash in the original location. I purchased the 32” chrome straight steel version, part number 101320020. It was very easy to install. I used the factory floor clamp, and years ago I added a muffler clamp at the dash to secure the column to the lower pedal support housing. Here’s what that looks like. I simply drilled two holes in the column support and bolted it in place with the clamp saddle on top. It is clamped down gently, as the column has little reason to move around on its own:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/839/5ujh.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/855/c52i.jpg

In the engine compartment I retained my 2nd generation Monte Carlo intermediate shaft. I simply knocked the cross pin out, ground the round portion into the DD shape, cut off the piece with the hole for the cross pin, and later trimmed another 7/16” off the end and joined the column to the intermediate shaft with a polished SS Borgeson joint. The lower shaft is ¾” DD and the bottom of the column is 1” DD. Here’s what the finished connection looks like:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/836/a0as.jpg

Someday I may replace with old intermediate shaft with a polished stainless item in an attempt to further divert visual attention away from how crappy the rest of the chassis looks!

The Ididit part number for the polished stainless Borgeson joint is 3000124952.

The most difficult issue was sorting out which wire would work on the Ididit adapter for the horn. I ended up using the straight wire that came with the column. It looked just like this one from a different adapter kit. Notice the length of the plastic locking connector:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/42/se0z.jpg

With the steering wheel adapter on the column, this connector reached all the way into the nylon horn tube and ended flush with the top of the adapter when locked in place.

This is the actual wire and adapter that came with the adapter kit after being desoldered from the horn contact plate:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/600/7fm3.jpg

The wire is too short, and being soldered to the horn plate prevents removing it for ease of installation. Also the locking collar is so short it’s nearly impossible to latch in place – even with tweezers.

This shows the major components of the adapter/horn kit. It shows the soldered wire, but the locking connector is much longer than the one I received (shown above):

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/46/30ut.jpg



The kit shown above must be an earlier version, as the adapter I received had an extra hole present at 10:30 for alignment with the horn tower, and a channel on the face of the adapter to run the wire up into the horn cap area. Here’s the type I received:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/593/0qd8.jpg

Since I didn’t have any of the tiny female speaker terminals needed to hook the horn wire to the horn contact plate, I simply spliced on my old wire/terminal with a waterproof boat connector.

Another interesting note – every Covico, Grant, and Superior wheel of this type I’ve seen has the top two mounting holes level across the top like these:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/854/4lvi.jpg

The Mooneyes wheel apparently was designed with the Ididit column in mind, as they rotated the mounting holes clockwise:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/59/au5i.jpg

This was to accommodate the nylon tower on the horn plate being set at 10:30 on the top of the column. This allows identical left-right travel on the cancelling cam.

With the Covico wheel, I had to position the horn plate at 9:00 as the upper left mounting hole is located at 10:30, making it impossible to align the horn plate at that clock position.

With new Mooneyes wheel, I simply pulled the adapter back off and rotated it to match the newly corrected wheel position. I did have to drill a new hole at the location shown in the blue circle so I had room for the horn wire to make the turn into the cavity under the steering wheel. It sounds more complicated that it was. The entire modification/adjustment took about 10 minutes.

Also, the Ididit instructions state “snap the cap in place”. This is incorrect information and a sure method for eventual failure. Here is a photo on the side of a typical modern horn cap (anything made in the last 30+ years). Note the dash stamped into the cap, with a dot underneath right at the edge:

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The correct method for cap installation is to align the 3 dots on the sides of the cap with the 3 notches in the horn plate. Lower the dots over the notches, and rotate the cap left or right trapping the plate between the dots and the dashes imprinted on the sides of the horn cap. This will keep the horn cap in place without damaging the edges of the horn plate. To remove, simply turn the cap to align with the notches, and it will pop right off.

It’s also interesting to note the Ididit cap is more pointed in the center than generic horn caps, and it is also slightly larger across. It must be used with the horn plate that comes with it. Generic horn plates are slightly smaller. When attempting to install an Ididit cap on a generic plate, the cap simply falls off and won’t latch. The caps aren’t much different, but I prefer the more pointed look of the Ididit cap, and the upper surface also extends further over to the edges making the cap look bigger than other brand caps.

Also, here are a couple more shots with the Mooneyes wheel installed:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/534/mr6r.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/132/9wns.jpg

It is exquisitely finished and is truly beautiful compared to my classic Covico version. It also has the bead on top of the rim like the early Covico wheels had. This is an entertaining feature during casual driving.

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Man that bottom photo of your interior is just beautiful.... everything came together in that pic, the textures, lighting... the whole shebang :metal:

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Thanks Mike. Fyi you guys have another care package on the way. It left this morning via 3 day mail, but I'm not sure what that means in North Pole time!

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Care Package from North Pole??? SWEET!!!:metal::metal::metal:

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Although I’ve been very pleased with the cosmetic appearance of the 58 Impala door mirrors, they just haven’t worked very well so Friday night they came off and the holes were filled using my standard JB weld method. Since my son currently has all my body working and paint stuff I’m just going to leave it as is for a while. The defects are only noticeable within 10 feet so I figure it’s good enough for now.

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http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/196/3b69.jpg

Saturday the new Bob Drake peep mirrors arrived and were given a good polish and then installed. I think these may be the first outdoor photos since the portholes and mirrors were installed:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/69/p5a0.jpg

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/809/luyf.jpg

I preferred the styling symmetry of the Impala mirror location better than the peeps, but I’ve driven behind a peep mirror from 1970 until the early 90’s, so I’m very familiar with the sight picture and limitations.

The Bob Drake peep mirrors are the highest quality I have seen in the aftermarket, and the closest I’ve seen to an original Yankee peep mirror:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/843/4w51.jpg

IMHO those are the gold standard by which all others are measured. Here are the “good” features that compare to Yankee’s:

The mirror is made of black glass for night time glare reduction. Many cheaper versions use clear glass.

The edge of the glass is beveled allowing the rim to crimp to the glass below the level of the mirror face. I’ve seen cheap aftermarket mirrors that don’t bevel the glass, causing the rim to extend beyond the face of the glass. The rim can snag on wash mitts and fingers, and because this makes a poorly fitting crimp the glass frequently rattles.

They have the “Yankee style indentation” around the perimeter on the back if the mirror head. Most aftermarket peep mirrors have no detail on the head.

The edge is only slight thicker than a real Yankee mirror (1/4”) compared to some cheap copies where the head is almost 3/8” thick at the edge and look stupid in my opinion.

They use a custom screw which covers the entire surface of the mounting ring, adding a look of class to the mirrors.

The only downside of the Bob Drake mirrors is the stainless finish on the back of the head. They appear to have been formed out of industrial polished stainless, and show visible polishing striations in the finish. I’ve seen cheaper versions with mirror polishing on the back of the heads. Repeated polishing in the future may improve this feature, but it is disappointing they weren’t delivered with a mirror finish to begin with.

This is one area where almost all aftermarket stainless steel mirrors have it over original Yankee versions. I believe the back of the head was chrome plated on original Yankee mirrors, which is not good for collectors as most are rusty and pitted when old.

Regardless of the polish which could have been better, I’m very pleased with the overall quality and looking forward to not changing door mirrors again!

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Outside Pics, and Peep Mirrors… :metal:

Thanks for the comparison between the Bob Drake Mirros vs other aftermarket ones...

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those are cool