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Hehe, when I was a younger, there were no car lots for miles and miles around us. (Farmboy). If you wanted to drive something new, you were just out of luck. Of course, I bought my first car when I was 14 too, with my hay money. A 68 Galaxie 500. The one and only F#$D I have owned.

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Jim, you close to driving that thing yet? :)

I'm hoping to fire mine up next weekend. I need to start a thread with all the picures I have taken.

I'm glad you got to spend some time with your boys. I only have 1 at home the other 2 are alot futher away and I don't get to see them very often.

Doug

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Thanks for asking Doug, but I'm still trying to get the motor back together. Had a couple hours this weekend and got the timing chain and cover finalized and installed. Now it's on to the oil pan, seem to have a problem with one of the bolt holes...gotta look into that

Good luck with the engine start, and yes it is always a good time hanging out with the boys. Be patient, they always seem to drift back home eventually
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seems like the 3/4" fastners work better than the 1/2" ones, just to short to grab! The bottom corners are the worst, no clearance room to swing the fastners up, My idea of using a hook tool to grab the fastner and swing it up was somewhat a success. I only stabbed my finger once, no where near as bad as Levi, that thing had to hurt


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Well had a couple hours to mount up the oil pan, dang PO had the rear passenger side cross threaded...put some grey RTV silicone in the top 4 corners where the block meets the gasket. Had to drop the oil filter to get at one of the oil pan bolts

Much easier job with the DIY4X4 crossmember flanged, no support this time from the top of the motor

Once I get the valve covers bolted down, I should be able to add oil and prime the engine thru the dizzy hole.
Big improvement from the days of finding plastic chunks from the timing sprocket in the oil pan

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mmm, shiny and orange..

That timing cover is sweet too! Is there another part of the cover that goes over the cam?

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Yeah, it has the cam button on it, I have to adjust it to run loose, didn't get to that yet

mmmmmmm, shiny and orange:lol:

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off topic, but I just figured out how Universe was formed

Here's pics of the Jimmy torn apart, all started with a broken rocker are stud

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So you are working on it......

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Aren't those kevlar gloves with the grip on the palms great? I've got a buddy who supplies me somewhate steady from the storehouse at his office. I love 'em.

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yes, new set of tpi's are at the machine shop, s/b done early next week
just another gift from the PO, worn rocker stud...

Yeah, I used them for the sheetmetal work, and just kept using them for greasie jobs

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...man, look at you go!

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Thanks K, just got the vinyl in from SMS! First attempt was wrong, sent me the same matrl. for the seat bottom as the seat back. Second attempt was correct and even sent RTA with postage to return...Great people to deal with thru this whole process

Seats should go off to the shop early next week, pics to follow!!

How's the flying up there, great weather down here

Hey did ya buy that fibreglas frontend?

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VORTEC'D with small runners:smoke: and a .464 lift Comp Cam! Heads have dual bolt patterns for the Valve Covers and the Intake
More to follow

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SWEEEEET!!!! :sumo:

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Looks good Jim!

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Thanks Guys, more eye candy, but first FUBAR

Took the head out of the box to paint, got going on the coating and something didn't seem right. It was the machining on the v/c mounting surface!!!

The angle was wrong, and to correct it, they remachined it at the proper angle and relief cut half of the v/c mounting hole boss....afreakin'mazing from GMPP!

So, my call goes out to Jeg's customer service, not another one in stock, crap! Her supplier is 5 days BO, but she pulls the ace of spades out of the deck and says " SUMMIT has it in stock " I wanted to reach thru the phone and kiss her, yesterday the head arrives

Gotta send this girl some flowers

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pics

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You're almost done. :)

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Dang Jim. You're making some killer progress. Keep up the good work.:metal:

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Thanks Shannon, been watching you're build as well. You have agreat team effort going there. Nice work on the sheet metal, can't wait to see it on the rollin' chassis
Good Luck to ya

Thank you God for sons, with out Jon, I would have never pulled this one off!!

More explanation when I get some timem but atleast you all have pics to look at

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nice progress...and I like the pictures. have an artistic feel to them...

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Thanks Va., I just shoot whatever is shiny,kinda like doin' that almost as much as building...glad you enjoyed 'em

Sorta lost track of your build, is it down in the 4x4 build section. Don't get allota time to enjoy all the builds, but I do remember yours was one I enjoyed watching

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Tim, not sure if this one will ever get done:lol:

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Looking really good Jim. That engine should purrrrrr.

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what's the part numbers on those heads? looks nice

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Thanks AJ, eventually I'll build it for some low end torque, maybe a BigSmallBlock 400 stroked, and then I'll be in your Cubic Inch range

Mike, gotta get back to you on part numbers...congrats on the Masters

first attempt on the flange removal was a bandsaw, to get most of the meat off. Then some creative grinding, couldn't find my hub nut removal thingy, so I just used the cutoff wheel. It got into some tight spots, so it worked out. Don't use it without the guard!!!
Studs had to be chased, junk part that needed extra work! A little anti-seize, a coat of Eastwoods Stainless Steel coating and I will be good to go

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Got an hour or two to work on my fuel line over the weekend

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IMHO, GMPP got this one wrong, 1/8" gap between intake runners and heads.Intake bolts up, just doesn't cover the intake ports...gotta buy another intake
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Looking good Jim.
When are you driving it over?

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That's amazing to me. Is there going to be an intake out there that does cover those gaps?

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Those heads appear to be the Vortec style bolt pattern with the taller intake ports.

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Yeah, but it will cost me another 175 bucks. Someone will get a deal on my old intake, which has never been gasketed

You missed my point. I know what they are, and that is not what I ordered. This is not my first rodeo. The box was marked with the proper small port part number, just wrong head in the box. I don't plan to go screaming down logging roads or beachs, I was trying to build an engine with the power in the low RPM range

Why they even bothered to drill and tap holes for the early style intake is beyond me

Jeg's said they run into this guite a bit

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Lookin' like Spring of next year

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Man, that engine looks like it belongs in the space shuttle!! Looks good Jim. Sorry the intake isn't going to work. I hope to start driving mine before the summer is over up here. Just gotta get this dang A/C figured out.

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If I understand this correctly, they weren't the heads you wanted in the first place but you installed them anyway??

You won't have to worry about lack of low end torque with vortec heads. They only have 170cc intake runners, and with the taller ports they have a better short turn radius. They make gobs of torque. They are actually a much better choice than the standard port heads you initially wanted.

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AHHHHH, now I see. Didn't realize that was one of the differences with the Vortecs. I'm not as amazed now...


I can see your frustration, though. If it were me, I'd probably get a SCREAMING deal from Jegs on the right intake, like their cost plus free shipping. They're going to turn around and get the money back out of GMPP anyway...

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[QUOTE=Firebirdjones;4119502]If I understand this correctly, they weren't the heads you wanted in the first place but you installed them anyway??
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At the time I installed them, I thought they were the heads I ordered, until I realized it, it was to late. My focus was on the poor quality of the machining, and I just forgot to check the details

You won't have to worry about lack of low end torque with vortec heads. They only have 170cc intake runners, and with the taller ports they have a better short turn radius. They make gobs of torque. They are actually a much better choice than the standard port heads you initially wanted.
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THAT makes me feel better, hope it holds true

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:lol:Thanks Red for the comps., hope the AC doesn't give ya to much trouble...or drive it now and work on it over the winter. I think the term that was coined is NASA-eze

Never thought of that! I'll give it a shot, it clearly states in the GMPP catalog that the vortec heads I ordered will work on early style intakes

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OK, seems like I was wrong, GMPP was right!!! Talked to them today, even had a case started, the smmmmaaaalllll print states that you must use a extended runner intake manifold (by .200") to run Vortec heads, seems that even though the early style intake will bolt up, w/o the extended runner design there will be a gap

My apologies to GMPP, you were right, I was wrong. Should have read all the printed information on the page, as it states to use a specific intake

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Bummer!

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back to where I was a month ago...got to do some engine wiring for the engine temp. and fan wires, still working on the electric choke

March was kind enough to send me the bolt and spacer for the alt. at no charge w/ shipping since I lost it in the workshop, well, its not lost just put it in a safe place so I wouldn't misplace it

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