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Strodder 02-28-2010 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by daverod (Post 3830939)
It kicked my butt.:waah: Wont run keeps back firing? Did I say I don't know $hit about engines? Gave up. Working on my rubber matt,felt and door rubber. Going good on that so far.Still pissed I can get my truck running.

Turn the Distributor 180 degrees. See what happens.

ruffrida2005 02-28-2010 03:48 PM

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yeah i think you need to turn the timing 180 out. You could just give me the cab to your 64. Mine is trashed. i tried to put it on the trailor today and the roof cracked all the way around. Looks like the upper metal around the windshield is rotted. It just needs so much work.

SCOTI 02-28-2010 03:55 PM

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Make sure it's connected to a full 12v power source & not the original ign coil power source (which will allow it to run, just not very well).

jason65 02-28-2010 03:58 PM

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I hate it when that happens. Or when it gets off a tooth.

daverod 02-28-2010 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Strodder (Post 3831002)
Turn the Distributor 180 degrees. See what happens.

Did that same thing. I did put a timing light on it and it was timed at 0

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Originally Posted by ruffrida2005 (Post 3831016)
yeah i think you need to turn the timing 180 out. You could just give me the cab to your 64. Mine is trashed. i tried to put it on the trailor today and the roof cracked all the way around. Looks like the upper metal around the windshield is rotted. It just needs so much work.

That sucks. Guess I'm having a good day.:lol: There's one one ebay 250. Guy on this site just put one on made it look easy. But then again I thought the hei thing looked easy. I'm sure it is easy for most.

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Originally Posted by SCOTI (Post 3831035)
Make sure it's connected to a full 12v power source & not the original ign coil power source (which will allow it to run, just not very well).

I have it hooked up to the fuse box. It reads 12v.

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I hate it when that happens. Or when it gets off a tooth.

I think that's the problem. Got my rubber glued in I'm going to take another stab at it. :metal:

daverod 02-28-2010 04:48 PM

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Before and after. Got sucked into the hockey game. Might take alittle while to see if it fires up. Go USA:metal: And to think I was born in Canada. Only lived there a day. I just want to see them lose. Sorry Padresaq

bubba327 02-28-2010 09:57 PM

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When I put an HEI in my Chevelle , I found there was a resister wire in the wiring harness which reduced the voltage to the coil/points after start-up (around 9V) (The main 12V came from a set of contacts on the starter during starts) This added lifetime to the points and didnt burn them out so fast.
I have not checked a wiring diagram yet to see if it is the same. If so just cut out the section of resister wire and replace it and remove the feed from the starter.
I started my truck today and it was at 0 at idle.
Did you get different plug wires? I think Electronic ignition needs heavier duty plug wires due to hotter spark. Did you regap the plugs ? did you change plugs?

daverod 02-28-2010 10:02 PM

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I did'nt change the plugs. The voltage is 12 volts out of the fuse box. I think my problem is I'm retarted.:lol: I did change the wires they are a different style. When I first started it I had the 12 volt wire hooked right to the batt. It was funny it started backfiring and I did'nt know why I could'nt shut it off. At least I'm learning some stuff and stuff. Well now I know why they said to cut the yellow wire on the starter, thats where it was getting the 12volts from?

daverod 02-28-2010 10:08 PM

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:lol:I was looking and I saw someone said they had thier time at 8 bdtc. I had it running and used a timing light to time it at 0. The vac thing was hitting the engine so I couldn't retard any more. I never thought about retarding it more because before I was running it at about 4 adtc. I took the valve cover off to make sure the dist was in right and not 180 out. I'm pretty sure I just need to turn my dist so that it will turn or retard more and move all my plug wires one way or another. I'm pretty sure I'm getting closer to getting it running but I could be wrong.:lol: It would be the first time.

daverod 02-28-2010 10:15 PM

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I'm still not sure about tdc. It has to be on the comp stroke? Does this mean when the intake valve opens then shuts your at tdc? That the way I have it set now. The intake just shut and the timing mark is at 0.

daverod 02-28-2010 10:55 PM

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It runs:metal: I'm thinking at first I had the dist. in right but it was one tooth off. I had it running but not very good. I thought it was my plugs so I changed my plug gaps back to what they were orginally. It was still backfiring so I pulled the dist. and turned it 180. When I did that I put my wires back on counterclockwise., thats when the real trouble begain. Dumb a$$. Here I thought I was being smart by taking a picture of everything before I began the swap. I must have check the order 20 times 153624. Oh well, learned some stuff and its running. Tomorrow I weld up the exhaust and go burning around. I did'nt really want to go sledding today anyway. I was still sore from my wipeout last weekend.

chemlab 03-01-2010 11:02 AM

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you could always do the thumb on the #1 plug hole trick for a quick check, wherever the distributor head is sitting at will be your #1, and redo your wiring from there. i've done this countless times and works fine.

daverod 03-01-2010 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by chemlab (Post 3832782)
you could always do the thumb on the #1 plug hole trick for a quick check, wherever the distributor head is sitting at will be your #1, and redo your wiring from there. i've done this countless times and works fine.

When you do it that way how do you know if it's on the compression or exhaust stroke. Does it only blow air on the compression stroke? It seems that your dist. could still be 180 off?

daverod 03-01-2010 03:26 PM

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Got my exhaust welded up. Lots easier to weld nice clean new metal together. Need to go buy some tips

MacAttack 03-01-2010 03:31 PM

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When you do it that way how do you know if it's on the compression or exhaust stroke. Does it only blow air on the compression stroke? It seems that your dist. could still be 180 off?

Made the identical mistake on my '283': Confused exhaust stroke with compression - until I used a compression gauge on #1.

Piece-of-cake after that and the little motor fired right off.

Mac. :chevy:

daverod 03-01-2010 03:35 PM

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Does it still blow air out the hole on the exhaust stroke?

MacAttack 03-01-2010 03:40 PM

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Does it still blow air out the hole on the exhaust stroke?

Yes - just not at the velocity of the compression. ;)

daverod 03-01-2010 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MacAttack (Post 3833224)
Yes - just not at the velocity of the compression. ;)

Thats what I thought. Just was'nt sure.;)

MacAttack 03-01-2010 03:44 PM

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Thats what I thought. Just was'nt sure.;)

Yeah - I almost took my valve cover off to confirm both valves were closed, but after getting them sealed just the way I wanted - I didn't want to mess with it and went with the compression gauge, while looking at the harmonic balancer marks.

daverod 03-01-2010 03:46 PM

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I ended up taking my cover off. Could'nt figure out what the hell was going on.:lol:

MacAttack 03-01-2010 03:53 PM

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You'll get it now - it can't hide for long! :smoke:

MacAttack 03-01-2010 03:56 PM

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BTW - That exhaust system is da chit! :metal:

daverod 03-01-2010 04:01 PM

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Can't wait to go for a drive.:metal: New HEI and new X pipe and tail pipes. I won't need ear plugs now.:lol: I was driving with just the bombs it was loud.

kizer 03-01-2010 06:13 PM

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Woooohoooo it only took me 58.5 pages to catch up.

Whats up with this. I leave and your working on one rig and I come back and your working on another. :lol:

daverod 03-01-2010 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kizer (Post 3833550)
Woooohoooo it only took me 58.5 pages to catch up.

Whats up with this. I leave and your working on one rig and I come back and your working on another. :lol:

And now I'm looking for a 47-53. Found a few but they were mostly rust. Damn, page three, you did have some catching up to do. Where you in a induced coma? Glad to see you back.

chemlab 03-01-2010 07:44 PM

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yes, air is released on the compression stroke. ;)

daverod 03-01-2010 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by chemlab (Post 3832782)
you could always do the thumb on the #1 plug hole trick for a quick check, wherever the distributor head is sitting at will be your #1, and redo your wiring from there. i've done this countless times and works fine.

Just because air comes out the hole you don't know if it on the compression or exhaust stroke. You could put your dizzy in and it could 180 out.;) I like the compression gage idea, keeps you from taking the valve cover off to see what stroke your really on.

jgh64pkup 03-01-2010 08:58 PM

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shouldnt there be alot more pressure on the compression stroke
enough that you can tell
ive always gotten it right

daverod 03-01-2010 09:04 PM

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I was just turning it over using the fan.;) That was'nt my problem anyway. I think I was a tooth off.

Strodder 03-01-2010 10:44 PM

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A good way to tell is remove the valve cover, and rock the engine at the timing mark. Look at #1 rockers, if intake and exhaust are rocking also that's #1. That is if I remember that right....:lol:

daverod 03-04-2010 09:22 PM

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Put my rubber door seals on and got my mat in. Don't know what I'm going to do about the peal and seal? Thing runs super.:metal: Sounds great, not to loud untill you get on. So much for the paint on the headers. I have my timing set at 4?

Strodder 03-04-2010 11:58 PM

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Looks good Dave

Alan's Classic 03-05-2010 12:08 AM

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I want a daily driver. :waah:

daverod 03-05-2010 12:41 AM

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I want a daily driver. :waah:

Get that 55 running and there you go.;)

Alan's Classic 03-05-2010 12:42 AM

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Get that 55 running and there you go.;)

It's getting there. :metal:

daverod 03-05-2010 11:56 AM

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I was thinking about putting these bags from SD ($200) on my 64. It already has the cut springs and I removed the bumper stops and brackets. How much more would the bags drop the front end? When all the air is out of the bags how low would it sit?:uhmk:

ruffrida2005 03-05-2010 02:20 PM

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that's how I was going to run mine. You wont be able to lay it on the frame in the front because of the crossmember, But that's the way to go, or make your own brackets.

daverod 03-05-2010 04:26 PM

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So when I let all the air out the crossmember would sit on the ground? Do you think I would have to change the steering set up?;) I guess this is as low as you go with aired out cross member on the ground.

ruffrida2005 03-06-2010 01:18 AM

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you wont have to mess with the steering. This is mine without drop spindles and a small notch in the rear. Gives you an Idea.

daverod 03-06-2010 10:05 AM

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Sweet, I was worried about the steering. My truck has a lot of body roll.I thinking I need to put a sway bar on the front, maybe new shocks? I have a sway bar off a 71 sub. I going to see if it will work. Maybe something to do today.;) Is that the truck with the rusted roof? It looks good from here.:lol: I don't think I would ever buy a truck that's been painted. You just never know.:ito:


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