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ak's-r-us 10-12-2008 03:49 AM

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LUV2XCLR8 10-12-2008 07:46 AM

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:phat:

Frizzle Fry 10-19-2008 10:51 AM

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Thanks guys. ak's-r-us you should do it. We know you have the skills!

My angle grinder got loose in the shop again and I am powerless against it's will... ;)

The first few pics are grainy (no flash), but then I got it together :lol:

Glass removed
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428837

The "dummy" window frame is held in place by screws/nut-plates and seam sealer. As you can see it took some convincing to remove without damaging
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428837

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428837

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428837

What may look like rust is actually reddish/brown seam sealer
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428837

prep'ing for the cut-off wheel
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

First slice inflicted
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

Drilled out the first of what seems like hundreds of spot welds in order to remove the dummy door while keeping the sections I plan on using intact
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

Frizzle Fry 10-19-2008 11:00 AM

Re: Joined the Short Wheelbase Club *69 Tahoe Project*
 
Rear wheels removed and quarter glass protected
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224429556

Laying out the cut line for what will become the inside of the upper weather-strip pinch-weld (will be flattened vertical)
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

Cut made. You can see it needs to be straightened into a flat flange
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

More slicing. This cut was made at 33 1/4" from the back edge of the front door
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

More spot welds defeated. The inner skin here will remain fixed as part of the wheel-well
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

I have a spare PS B-Pillar thanks to Brad and CG, so here I marked the existing C-Pillar to be sliced in half. The removed section will be replaced by half of the donor B-Pillar (these bends cannot be made in a single piece on a conventional brake)
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

Cut
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

Removed
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

I left some material at the top because the donor B-Pillar is shorter than the C-Pillar. Shouldn't be too hard to fill in that small section in the upper corner.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

Donor B-Pillar
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

Frizzle Fry 10-19-2008 11:09 AM

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Bracing to keep everything in place (looks familiar...)
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224429556

More slices and tape to protect the drip rail
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

Inner flange had been flattened
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

A good place to cut the inner skin. This will be under the inner panel when done. Aft of this point is "Dummy-Door" specific and will be replaced with the rear section from a truck door.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

Cut locations for the top of the B-Pillar
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

Coming loose and supported by a strap
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

Frizzle Fry 10-19-2008 11:13 AM

Re: Joined the Short Wheelbase Club *69 Tahoe Project*
 
It took quite a bit of work to get the B-Pillar detatched without destroying parts of it I may need.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

Probably not a good time to change my mind...
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

I can't tell you how nice it is to be able to get in from this side instead of going around to the back or PS every time!
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

The real reason for the hole...
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

The front floor edge needs some repair but the majority of the floor is pristine. OG floor mats foam and sound deadener still in place
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

Just showing what the inner structure looks like
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

More donor parts
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

Prepping to cut the donor jamb to be shortened for where the tubs come through
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

Marked for an additional 3/4" to come off while leaving the arch section in place
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

Frizzle Fry 10-19-2008 11:16 AM

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I did end up removing the inner wheel-well section because it needs to be relocated slightly. Also removed the dummy rocker which I plan to use as the bottom of the 4th rocker by adding just the top section of a front DS rocker.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

The additional 3/4" removed to make room for the truck jamb
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

Truck jamb and B-Pillar sections roughing in
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

Because of the wheel-wells notching into the 3rd and 4th doors and the fact that I plan to run suicide rear doors, a conventional two-hinge set up won't work (no room). So I had no choice but to step up to these burly chunks:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

They must weigh 40 Lbs each!
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

An idea of scale
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

Those big 'ol boxes are designed to allow the installer to cut/modify as needed (and they will be heavily modified)
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

They open 180 degrees via a double hinge design. There is a locking mechanism which only allows one fulcrum to pivot at a time. I'm not overly excited about the 180 aspect, but these were the right size and price for the job
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

I ended up removing the front of the 4th window frame I made in order to use the front of the dummy frame like this
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

Frizzle Fry 10-19-2008 11:22 AM

Re: Joined the Short Wheelbase Club *69 Tahoe Project*
 
Looking down from the top of the B-Pillar:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

The weather-stripping on the cab will run uninterrupted from the A to the C pillar. So the upper window frame needs to extend forward to the front of the pillar. Here's the template for that:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

And a piece from the donor door in place. The rest will be boxed in once I test fit the door and figure out clearances:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

5' of 3/16x1.25"x1.25" angle iron which will be plug-welded in place above the upper jambs running from A to C:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

Test fitting. This will regain some of the structural integrity lost when removing the B-Pillar and provide a strong mounting point for the striker:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

Kinda dim... Showing 3/16"x2x2 running inside the C-Pillar:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

Upper mount for the 2x2 bolts in a factory hole location which runs through a few layers into a nut-plate above. The angle iron will also tie into this later:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

Another shot of the 2x2
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

The hinge mounts cut down and additional welding complete. They tie into the 2x2 and will also be welded to a doubled section of the tubs below:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

Frizzle Fry 10-19-2008 11:29 AM

Re: Joined the Short Wheelbase Club *69 Tahoe Project*
 
Factory striker area contours to be removed:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

Cut out to fit over the hinges. The hole size will be reduced and some contours added once everything is in its final position:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

Leveling the truck for reference when welding the hinge mounts (a little out of order here...)
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

Another shot of the hinge mount in place:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

Hinge bolted to hinge mount. There will be some adjustability here via shims/hole-size should I need to tweak it in the future:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

I purposely pre-set the hinges slightly high to the front and to the outside to overcome any slight sag induced by the weight of the door You can also see to the right where I marked the hinge body for more trimming (did I mention it's a tight fit? :o):
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

Here's how tight on space it is. The arched line in the background represents where the tub will be:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

Jamb section in place. I the background you can see the extra trailer fender I bought for doubling the front of the tubs:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

Frizzle Fry 10-19-2008 11:31 AM

Re: Joined the Short Wheelbase Club *69 Tahoe Project*
 
Last one for now showing the hinge opened (secondary not fully rotated):
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

Rokcrln 10-19-2008 12:08 PM

Re: Joined the Short Wheelbase Club *69 Tahoe Project*
 
WOW is about all I can say. You are so detailed in your pre planing it almost makes me sick! Very well thought out plan..

Kevin
LFD Inc.

Rokcrln 10-19-2008 12:13 PM

Re: Joined the Short Wheelbase Club *69 Tahoe Project*
 
Now in going back over your pics I really like how you reinforced the C pillar. Also your choice in re-using the B-post along with the fake door skin should give you great results. Again very impressive!

So for the right side are you going to graft on a truck jamb to the front of the 3dr door to get the same look as the left side? You know you really suck! I have bad enought A.D.D. with only my own thoughts and then you go and do this to me:lol:


Kevin
LFD Inc.

XXL 10-19-2008 12:54 PM

Re: Joined the Short Wheelbase Club *69 Tahoe Project*
 
Those hinges looked purty until I saw your hand on one. That's when I realized they look purty.


Also, see that thing in the middle of this pic. This is the source of your grinder's mysterious energy. Disconnect it, hop in the car, and come my way, please. There is much work for that grinder here.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...g?t=1224428348

abadsvt 10-19-2008 02:22 PM

Re: Joined the Short Wheelbase Club *69 Tahoe Project*
 
Hey Frizzle:metal::metal:. I need to make a special trip up to oregon just to come check out that bad a$$ tahoe!!!! Love your work!!!! I agree with Rokcrln about how well you are planning stuff out!

Josh

Palf70Step 10-19-2008 05:57 PM

Re: Joined the Short Wheelbase Club *69 Tahoe Project*
 
Great looking work!

texanidiot25 10-19-2008 06:12 PM

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http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...0039Medium.jpg
Oh no, he's getting lazy! Duct tape!

ak's-r-us 10-19-2008 07:00 PM

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Hart_Rod 10-19-2008 07:43 PM

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Outstanding as usual...........:D.

Rokcrln 10-19-2008 10:10 PM

Re: Joined the Short Wheelbase Club *69 Tahoe Project*
 
Hey Mike does that single hinge have link so it is double actuated? You know so as you close it the door will swing right back around and close like a standard door. The one's I was talking with you about did not have that upper link and they were a pain and if not done just right it would get real expensive on the paint. These look good, what is the weight rating on them?

Kevin
LFD Inc.

Frizzle Fry 10-19-2008 10:58 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rokcrln (Post 2936453)
Now in going back over your pics I really like how you reinforced the C pillar. Also your choice in re-using the B-post along with the fake door skin should give you great results. Again very impressive!

So for the right side are you going to graft on a truck jamb to the front of the 3dr door to get the same look as the left side? You know you really suck! I have bad enought A.D.D. with only my own thoughts and then you go and do this to me:lol:


Kevin
LFD Inc.

Ya I know I'm kinda cheating there with the B-Pillar: avoiding having to make one :lol: Yes you nailed it with the PS door jam matching the DS; it will. A.D.D. rocks :metal:
Quote:

Originally Posted by XXL (Post 2936483)
Those hinges looked purty until I saw your hand on one. That's when I realized they look purty.

I made sure my nails didn't show in the pics strictly because you! :lol:

Quote:

Originally Posted by abadsvt (Post 2936555)
Hey Frizzle:metal::metal:. I need to make a special trip up to oregon just to come check out that bad a$$ tahoe!!!! Love your work!!!! I agree with Rokcrln about how well you are planning stuff out!

Josh

Thanks! Anytime :)
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Originally Posted by Palf70Step (Post 2936803)
Great looking work!

Thanks Palf!
Quote:

Originally Posted by texanidiot25 (Post 2936817)
Oh no, he's getting lazy! Duct tape!

Who needs a welder when you've got duct tape?
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Originally Posted by ak's-r-us (Post 2936877)
ya know i was just looking at those "giant" single hinges the other day thinkin they would be perfect for one of these:lol:

so it looks like its goin "postless"??? if so whats the plan for latching it?

Latches top and bottom of the "B-Pillar" (which is now part of the rear door). Then the front door latches conventionally. I am going to try to keep it all mechanical.
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Originally Posted by Hart_Rod (Post 2936925)
Oustanding as usual...........:D.

Thank you Sir!
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rokcrln (Post 2937214)
Hey Mike does that single hinge have link so it is double actuated? You know so as you close it the door will swing right back around and close like a standard door. The one's I was talking with you about did not have that upper link and they were a pain and if not done just right it would get real expensive on the paint. These look good, what is the weight rating on them?

Kevin
LFD Inc.

Yes they are double actuated so they can rotate 180 degrees. That linkage locks out the second hinge until the first reaches a certain point and it cams the linkage. Then the first hinge is locked and the second hinge is free. Opposite sitch in reverse. They are made by GT Factory.

There's video out there somewhere I can't seem to find at the moment, but they appear to work very smothly and close like conventional hinges (no added pushing on the hinged side required).
Here's what their site syas about them:

The New GT Factory 180° Door System, revolutionizing the industry with a design that is sure to fit most cars trucks and SUVs.
Its single hinge design is perfect for sedans which have a hump for the wheel well in the rear however strong enough to keep a heavy truck door in its place.

Industry leading technical support is what made customers rave about our Diablo Door System and we will provide the same outstanding customer service with our 180° door system.

50% weld-on/ 50% bolt-on universal application for all cars, trucks and SUV's
-Exclusive 180 degree patent pending dual stage left and right hinges with GTF logos
-10x the strength of traditional suicide hinges allowing use of one hinge per door (essential for sedans with the rear door located half way over the rear wheel)

-A huge swingarm designed to clear all unibody chassis vehicles (unlike the common hot rod style hinge kits only suitable for 2" thick doors)

-Stay put operation allows infinite opening angle up to 180 degrees

-pressed hinge pins on both stages with expanded one piece end caps

-Infinite angle adjustments for open and closed positions

-Locking mechanism to separate each hinge stage
- Nickel plated finish on all parts
-Heavy duty car side and door side housings for both hinges

-Alignment shims & grade 8.8 mounting hardware

-Four FMVSS approved two stage latches and four strikers

-Special high density packaging to support the heavy parts

-Step by step picture instructions on CD

-Lifetime warranty

-Industry leading technical support

Hart_Rod 10-19-2008 11:22 PM

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Check this out:

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=311242

nuke1 10-19-2008 11:33 PM

Re: Joined the Short Wheelbase Club *69 Tahoe Project*
 
That is some MAD skills you got there, everytime i look at your pages, there always seems to be a big hole. lol

LeDevil 10-20-2008 01:17 AM

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Progress is looking good, I really cant wait to see this finished

LOW DOUGH 10-20-2008 09:42 AM

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Lookin great

67ChevyRedneck 10-20-2008 10:13 AM

Re: Joined the Short Wheelbase Club *69 Tahoe Project*
 
I was always hoping to see a 4th door on this... awesome, just awesome! :metal:


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