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jbclassix 03-15-2013 05:37 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
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Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher (Post 5949052)
PS pump, or hyd. pump?

Power steering pump. I want to loose the Vacuum pump on my brothers truck all together. I could use the hydraulic pump, but that means custom lines. We are doing a remote reservoir either way.

are you looking for a particular air pump? 2 cyl? 1 cyl?

Edit: I need to look and see what compressor is mounted in our service truck. It is tiny and POWERFULL.

Dieselwrencher 03-15-2013 09:05 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
I may know a guy that might have a saginaw ps pump. I'll call him and see.................

ryanroo 03-15-2013 09:37 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Im looking at for a 1 cyl. im not sure ill have room for the BMF

jbclassix 03-17-2013 12:09 AM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
I just went all the way back to page 5 to see what you did to get your D80 mounted... the first time. And I am asking both you and Ryanroo this question. If you hypothetically mounted your axles on leaves(not the Ryanroo AirRide), would you build custom mounts to move the springs out further, or would you stick with just moving the spring pads in?

ryanroo 03-17-2013 12:57 AM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Spring pads in. moving the mounts out would put a lot of leverage on the frame and the mount. wider is better, but to do the mounts wider would be way to much work for not uch benefit.

Dieselwrencher 03-18-2013 02:42 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
On mine, I just cut off the cast mounts, and got some axle perches from DIY4X. I happen to have my rear suspension for sale if you're interested. My DIY4X shackle flip, new springs, D80 spring perches, u-bolts, cast upper retaining plate, D80 lower mount, and front spring hangers. I'd seperate the stuff for sure. If I keep it around, it'll mean I need to put them on something. :lol:

ryanroo 03-18-2013 09:55 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
markets gonna be flooded! i have a custom set of plates U bolts that point up, ballistic pads ground for 4" tubes,some custom ass shackle hangers, and stock front hangers for sale...

Dieselwrencher 03-18-2013 11:22 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
:lol:

Dieselwrencher 03-21-2013 06:32 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
We finished up the 02 Dodge job this week, and I've gotten started on my GN and frame. I got the cross members welded in, and boxed in between them. Here are some smokey shots.....

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...320_104936.jpg
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...320_120820.jpg
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...320_120809.jpg
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...320_120844.jpg

Today I trimmed down the center hitch and notched my front cross member so the center section would fit in there. I sat it in the frame and low and behold the release handle hits the frame. So tomorrow, I'll notch the frame, install a tube to give clearance, and then weld in my lower supports and weld the center plate in.

Also, my brother took the center section to work to sand blast it so it doesn't retain it's dredger look. :lol:

ryanroo 03-21-2013 07:03 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
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Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher (Post 5962154)

Also, my brother took the center section to work to sand blast it so it doesn't retain it's dredger look. :lol:

Sweet baby jesus thank you!

that welder looks suspiciously not grey?

Dieselwrencher 03-21-2013 07:33 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
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Originally Posted by ryanroo (Post 5962223)
Sweet baby jesus thank you!

that welder looks suspiciously not grey?

Just for you dude! :lol: And, I don't want to get the other one dirty yet. :mm::lol:

MrBeast 03-21-2013 07:37 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Damn what are you going to be pulling with that hitch? The USS Missouri?

Dieselwrencher 03-21-2013 07:44 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBeast (Post 5962289)
Damn what are you going to be pulling with that hitch? The USS Missouri?

:lol: Well yeah! I've got to do in real life what Toyota and Chevy do in photoshop. :lol: Here space shuttle........ I bet I could throw some rubber on the bottom side of it and get her haulin.... :devil:

MrBeast 03-21-2013 07:46 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher (Post 5962306)
:lol: Well yeah! I've got to do in real life what Toyota and Chevy do in photoshop. :lol: Here space shuttle........ I bet I could throw some rubber on the bottom side of it and get her haulin.... :devil:

Ha ha! that you could.

watahyahknow 03-22-2013 05:21 AM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
i think youre underdoing it with the hitch
http://images.autoline-eu.nl/s/onder...1617755700.jpg

Dieselwrencher 03-22-2013 04:19 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
That's a 5th wheel, not a gooseneck. Just sayin. :lol:

Dieselwrencher 03-22-2013 04:28 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Well today I added some cross members to support some more weight under the center section. I then welded them in, and fit the center section to fit. Next, I cut my hitch release pin and used a die grinder to clearance the housing to allow the release pin to go up farther. I welded the handle back on, and walla! I have clearance over the frame rail and no need to cut and notch the frame rail. Then I placed the center section in and welded it up. :metal:

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...322_113534.jpg
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...322_113547.jpg
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...322_114727.jpg
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...322_121515.jpg
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...322_121503.jpg
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...322_121937.jpg
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...322_121731.jpg

I then cut a piece to replace the rear cross member. I'll replace the last 2 stock cross members, and then start boxing the frame. :sumo:

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...322_123649.jpg

MrBeast 03-22-2013 04:57 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
So how far did the suspension drop stuffing all that pig iron in it? xD

Dieselwrencher 03-22-2013 05:29 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBeast (Post 5964171)
So how far did the suspension drop stuffing all that pig iron in it? xD

I don't know yet. :lol: I've got it blocked in the level position. But, it won't matter because the mammoth air bags will hold it up just fine. :devil:

MrBeast 03-22-2013 05:49 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher (Post 5964223)
I don't know yet. :lol: I've got it blocked in the level position. But, it won't matter because the mammoth air bags will hold it up just fine. :devil:

On my dually that is an up and coming mod, that thing is going to get full air ride all the way around with a ride height controller, I want it to ride smooth as if it were riding on rails.

watahyahknow 03-22-2013 06:38 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
you might as whell use the bottom of the hitch assembly as the top mounts of the bags it should hold just fine and you can hide the airlines only the exaust might be in the way , i see you allready have some boxsection welded in there to fill the gap for the hitch setup and it looks like it would place the bags pretty close to the leafsprings

ryanroo 03-22-2013 09:32 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Leaf springs, we dont need no leaf springs.

i have a hunch that Ryan has some bracketry to 4 link his truck and eliminate the current springs entirely and get them bags out wide enough to promote good stability.

Mattman2010 03-23-2013 12:56 AM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ryanroo (Post 5964683)
Leaf springs, we dont need no leaf springs.

i have a hunch that Ryan has some bracketry to 4 link his truck and eliminate the current springs entirely and get them bags out wide enough to promote good stability.

Ive seen picture proof of the brackets! :metal:

Dieselwrencher 03-24-2013 08:48 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
I got some more done yesterday. I removed the old rear cross member, welded in the new, and removed the rest of my tank cross members. I then welded up all the un used holes from the goose neck back. Next I'll replace the last OEM cross member and then remove the stock suspension.

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...9bdd08cd2c.jpg

ryanroo 03-24-2013 09:48 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher (Post 5968600)
Next I'll replace the last OEM cross member and then remove the stock suspension.

Its all downhill from there....

6BT 56 03-24-2013 11:28 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Hi Ryan. Whats your hyd clutch exerience? Im abt to mount my master cyl and dont like the oem dodge 1/4 turn master. I will use the getrag slave but was hopin 4 something with a little better mount than the oem dodge master. Any thoughts ?

jbclassix 03-25-2013 12:24 AM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Maybe I will convince my brother he needs to box his crew cab frame... and have someone else do it :lol:

6lcummins 03-25-2013 09:15 AM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 6BT 56 (Post 5969015)
Hi Ryan. Whats your hyd clutch exerience? Im abt to mount my master cyl and dont like the oem dodge 1/4 turn master. I will use the getrag slave but was hopin 4 something with a little better mount than the oem dodge master. Any thoughts ?

You could use a Ford master and Dodge slave, but there is a little bit of adapting that will go on. What exactly dont you like about the 1/4 turn master? Aftermarket 3rd gen use a bracket that bolts to the firewall.

Dieselwrencher 03-25-2013 03:12 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 6lcummins (Post 5969478)
You could use a Ford master and Dodge slave, but there is a little bit of adapting that will go on. What exactly dont you like about the 1/4 turn master? Aftermarket 3rd gen use a bracket that bolts to the firewall.

The 3rd gen still twist into the bracket. We've only had one truck have issues with the master cylinder popping out out of many. You can use a 94-97 ford f-250 and 350 master and line on a dodge slave and it'll work fine. The ford master bolts on to the firewall.

Dieselwrencher 03-25-2013 03:14 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Here are a couple other pictures from Saturday.

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...48ba307223.jpg
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...42aaf750bf.jpg

MrBeast 03-25-2013 03:25 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
So wheres the fuel tank gonna go?

6lcummins 03-25-2013 05:11 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher (Post 5970145)
The 3rd gen still twist into the bracket. We've only had one truck have issues with the master cylinder popping out out of many. You can use a 94-97 ford f-250 and 350 master and line on a dodge slave and it'll work fine. The ford master bolts on to the firewall.

I know, but if he was worried about fabbing a hole in the firewall of his conversion for the 1/4 turn hydros, that would be a way around that, just like your firewall.

Dieselwrencher 03-25-2013 06:23 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBeast (Post 5970164)
So wheres the fuel tank gonna go?

It's going to go in between the goose neck hitch and the rear cross member. The 40 gal burb tank I have fits in there pretty good. I'll take pics of that when I get it back in there.

6BT 56 03-25-2013 06:37 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher (Post 5970145)
The 3rd gen still twist into the bracket. We've only had one truck have issues with the master cylinder popping out out of many. You can use a 94-97 ford f-250 and 350 master and line on a dodge slave and it'll work fine. The ford master bolts on to the firewall.

Hi ryan. thanks for the advice. My prob with the 1/4 turn job is it will be mounted under the floor. To work with the 56 pedals etc. I took the bracket from behind the firewall on the dodge but it just seems too easy to turn. I had visions of it popping out and me trying to get it all back together when the eng is hot. I will try to locate a ford unit and fab brkt accordingly.

Thanks again .

ryanroo 03-25-2013 08:44 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher (Post 5970463)
It's going to go in between the goose neck hitch and the rear cross member. The 40 gal burb tank I have fits in there pretty good. I'll take pics of that when I get it back in there.

Right where all the exhaust is going to try and go...

jbclassix 03-25-2013 09:44 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBeast (Post 5970164)
So wheres the fuel tank gonna go?

I thought he said something about one of those contraptions on the front that eats small cars struggling with a Yakima roof carrier and turns them into fuel.
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Dieselwrencher 03-26-2013 08:06 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
I removed the last stock cross member today and welded in the new. Now I have to remove the rear suspension, and get welding holes up. Then it'll be on to boxing the frame and getting the 4 link brackets placed and welded on.

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...326_122435.jpg

Dieselwrencher 03-26-2013 08:08 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBeast (Post 5970164)
So wheres the fuel tank gonna go?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryanroo (Post 5970841)
Right where all the exhaust is going to try and go...

Yep, pretty much sums it up. Exhaust routing is going to be fun. The easy way would be a stack, but IDK if I really want to go that route at the moment.


http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...326_122446.jpg
http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x...326_122458.jpg

It fits in there pretty nice. I need to get the frame boxed, set the bed on, and see how much room I don't have above the frame first. :lol:

ryanroo 03-26-2013 08:26 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
You dont have, pretty much any... the bedfloor supports are at the top of the frame. if you want to notch them you could have some room.

ryanroo 03-26-2013 08:27 PM

Re: Finally starting my Longhorn 4x4 conversion
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher (Post 5973008)
Then it'll be on to boxing the frame.

bout time.....


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