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Dave it will go as low in the front as the frame is where it touches to bump stops. Measure from the ground to the lowest part of the frame where the bump stops were. Then with the springs installed subtract the space between where the bump stop was and what would hit it. I hope that didn't sound too confusing. I wish I can draw you a picture. :lol:

I wouldn't install a sway bar at all. If you install the front and rear air bag controls independently and not connected to each other, like front and rear controls on 2 switches. If you have each bag adjustable you don't need a sway bar. Example is when the truck leans to the right the air in that bag will gain more pressure. If the air line is connected to the left bag along with the right bag, and controlled with 1 switch, when the pressure gains in the right bag it will transfer the pressure to the left bag. Causing it to lean. When the pressure stays in each bag it will keep it from leaning to that side. Are you really confused now. :lol:

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Independent air control will definitely prevent the pressure transfer lean. A sway bar is a very good upgrade as well. All modern vehicles have sway bars now for a reason (they work).

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Thanks for the info guys. I'm going to put the sway bar on. On my 64 (Work/Driver) I'm thinking about bags with no compressor for now. I want the front lower and I thought that would be a good way/ cheap way to do it. I'm going to cut some more off my spring today just to see what it does. I want more of the stink bug look. Right now it's just about level.;) On my 66 I will do the level control thing for sure.

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Yeah I'm not saying sway bar aren't good. But if you have the independent air bag set up you don't need them at all. My 56 Belair handled really good with hardly any lean. Besides if you want to play with the air bags like going side to side, and other stuff you can't with sway bars.

I got it this low without notching the frame or dropped spindles.

http://belair.smugmug.com/Other/My-5...36_CH8zP-M.jpg

http://belair.smugmug.com/Other/My-5...47_JoFfp-M.jpg

http://belair.smugmug.com/Other/My-5...26_w2w9j-M.jpg

http://belair.smugmug.com/Other/My-5...89_aThoj-M.jpg

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Cool ride.:metal: When I get some $$ I'm doing it on the 66. "I want to be able to drive around all screwed up.:lol:

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There goes your tires. :uhmk::lol:

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That's where our opinions differ & obviously there's not one, correct, one size fits all answer.

Sure, you can run w/o them, but they are a benefit for stabilizing the front suspension when using softer, street friendly spring rates. To me, bags fall into that category regardless of whether they're controlled independently or not. I've ran dropped C10's w/o a sway bar & then installed one.... what a difference they make on vehicles w/higher COG's.

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Loading up the sled when I got a killer idea for my tilt hood on my 66. I always wondered how people made them tilt. Now I have an idea.:metal: Now I just have to figure out how to keep it locked down.

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All I can say is I've installed hundred's of air bags on every thing from 47 Caddys, to brand new Tahoe's. With my Chevy a Nissan Z couldn't catch me on Mulholland Drive. With springs you need sway bars. With air bags if set up right it's not really needed.

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:but::m3::lol: Ya but you never put air bags on a sled did you? :mm:

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Bring it over. :lol:

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I'm loading up now should be there in about 600/75=make it ten hours.:lol: So about eight your time. Enough goofing off I have a sway bar to install. I really have no idea of where the ends hook up to. I'm sure I'll get it figured out. Then I'm taking my puppy for a truck ride. Now where did I put those parts?

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some european cars have a verry nice cable operated latch with a small cone to catch the part on the hood that should work good enough on wat youre planning
i do think you need to reinforce the rear of the setup a bit so youre able to lift the whole hood from one of the sides without bending it up

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Cut about 1/2 a coil off dropped about 2". Might be too much going for a drive.;)

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Looks better

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Rides sweet. Did'nt bottom out once. The springs where making some noise. Checked it out. They are rubbing on the sides of the mount on top? I did'nt replace the part that holds the bottom of them in. Maybe it's important.:lol: I did'nt replace it before and did';nt have a problem. Dog loved his ride. Biker guy gave me the thumbs up.:metal: I need a posi.:lol:

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I'll have to see how my Olds works. Good idea:smoke:

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The morph.:lol: Damn that was a good looking camper.:lol: Still remember the guy at dump wondering what the hell I was doing. By the time he figured it out I was gone and so was the camper.:lol: The money I got for the jacks paid for half the truck.

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Bubba why don't you go buy this for me.;)

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When we finish what we started here, then we will talk buying about a new project. Congratulations on driving your truck. Just starting mine is a rush, Driving it will come soon.

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I'm loving mine. It's a buzz saw.:metal: Figured out my springs were'nt in right. Had to turn them alittle. After I did that no more noise and it sits even lower. I wish I lived in Boise. Congrats on your truck.:metal: I just want to buy the truck for a furture project. Thats ok is'nt it. It won't really be a project.

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That's the truck witht he jacked up roof. I really need to take a wire brush to the seam sealer and see what's really going on. Wont be for a little while. I haven't been able to work on the truck. I'm building my son's a moster swing set.

Now get back to work.

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I hate stuff like that. Stuff with instructions and parts with numbers and stuff. I always make my wife put that stuff together, or at least read it and tell me what to do.:lol: Good luck with it.:lol: What size of air tank do I need?

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Ha, there was no part holding the bottom of spring in. Different truck parts I guess. The spring just sits in the pocket but it has to be sitting in there the right way. It was wacked. I just turned it alittle and in set down the way it should have been. Now it's even lower.:metal: Guess I'll have to order a sway bar for lowered trucks. The one I have won't work.:waah:

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Oh it's nothing that is bought. were builing it ourselves.

The air tank size depends on if you wanna play or if you just wanna go up and down when you get in and out. My truck just had a 3 gal tank at first in that pic. Only front and back. I'm going to run a 8 Gal now, 8 valves and I wanna play a little at first. A 5 gal is a good all around tank. Remember you need to check the rateing on the compressor to see what size tank they will fill. Most Viars are rated for a 5 Gal. That's why I'm running 2.

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Sweet ,now I know. I can live with building stuff as long as there's no instructions. I love it even better when the instructions are in like 12 different languages. A picture is ok as long as it's in English..:smoke:

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Parts fairy dropped off some new u bolts. They were larger then the old ones. Had to drill new holes, what a pain did'nt wait to spend 20 on a new bit. Gott my arms and tires mounted. Can't figure out why it won't go all the way to the ground. In think my upper arms are hitting the frame and stopping it from moving down? If I stand on the front it will go all the way.??:uhmk:

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You have to notch out at the top of the spring cup so the upper arm will go lower.

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I don't get it? I'll have go look.;) I was just looking at my tires compaired to my 64 they are huge.

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Looks like they notched it to get access to the bags. Good idea I'll do it. Still don't see why my frame is'nt on the ground. I guess with my engine in there it will be. Just has me worried. My arms look really close to the frame. they touch it. I was thinking they were bindiing.:ito: Nice link good info thanks Paul

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did you see it before I posted the pic and the link. Just cut a whole it in. everyones doing it. It's all the rage.

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You dont need to access the bag from there. Go take a look at it and I bet your arms are hitting right here. Look and a bunch of other pics of bagged trucks and you'll see the same.

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I don't know? the upper arms are'nt even close to the part that is notched in the pictures. They move in the other direction. Are you popping pain meds like smarties again.:lol:
#17 From the linky.
"They are cut out for access to the top of the bag. It looks as though he welded in the upper bag plate instead of bolting it on. When you do that the only way to access the top of the bag is to cut an access hole. IMO even if you bolt that plate on, it is a good idea to cut an access hole to make it easier to swap the bag out."

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Could be balljoint bind or the cross shafts binding up a little. On my burb they were tight but the BBC should push 'em down no problem.

Lookin' really cool daverod :metal::metal::metal:........

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I think your right. When I stand on he front it hits the ground.:metal: Time for some front bags.:metal: Took another look at my sway bar. I think it will work. I just have to get it up high enough to drill some holes. No, I don't have a fancy lift, yet. After those u bolt holes I'm sick of drilling.

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I had to drill those on my p/u and do it from underneath. I know what your saying!!:lol: I was very glad when they finally fit in place.

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Put my sway bar on. Went on real easy. :metal: The hardest part was grinding down the rivets on the crossmember. Went for a test drive. I thought I was in a Vette. What a difference. Well worth the time and money. Hour and a half and it was free off an old parts truck. I'm sure it would be better if I had new rubber.

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man I have been taking my pain pills, I'm on some good stuff. I was trippin about the notch. You notch the crossmember for lift. You may or may not have a problem with it. put a motor in it and watch it lay out.

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:lol::lol::smoke: