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glock35ipsc 02-24-2010 11:04 AM

Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info
 
Sweet, congratulations!! No put up some pics somewhere!! :lol:

JohnC 02-24-2010 02:52 PM

Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info
 
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Originally Posted by fpjr0 (Post 3820772)
the thing is I only took about four maybe five pics.. sorry... how ever I did go for my first drive, it was extremely loud(open exhaust) for about 5 miles, so i could get my exhaust hooked up, the guys did a good job but one of my donut gasket on the driver side is bad and needs replacing, they didnt have one in stock so I am gonna have to go back later...the exhaust sound was a little dissappointment it used to sound good with the 305 but now its just too quite for my likes but it runs good, once again I cant say thank you enough you all been very helpful..... nearly drove from my friends tire& muffler shop with a set of 22" but they were just not what I wanted I want some 20" :devil:

also something weird happens every time I start the truck now... the wipers come on on their own... but only at start and once I turn them on and off they stay off :crazy: will check it later

That's the new clear view option. Makes sure your windshield is clear so you can cruise safely. :lol:

Would love to see the few pics you have. Start up a thread for it! :metal:

fpjr0 02-24-2010 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnC (Post 3822287)
That's the new clear view option. Makes sure your windshield is clear so you can cruise safely. :lol:

Would love to see the few pics you have. Start up a thread for it! :metal:

since my speedometer is not working I thought it was from going so fast :lol:

I am going to try and take more pics but as of right now I really only have around 4 so I guess post it a thread for that will be sad..

fpjr0 02-24-2010 11:14 PM

Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info
 
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i guess i forgot to ask bob if it was ok to hickjack this thread.. sorry but since I know you guys are cool here is another of me and a pic of how clean the valve train was, that was the day the cowboys lost on the playoff so to show my dissappointment on the team I wore the brand new cowboys cap and got it all dirty :lol:

Driveway Dreams 02-24-2010 11:42 PM

Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info
 
Good looking truck! 4 pictures or not, you have done a lot of work on the truck. I think it is worthy of its own build thread. Heck, if the guys are telling me to start one you sure can too. ;)

centexan 02-25-2010 01:46 AM

Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info
 
Just read this from beginning to end. All I can say is wow. Very impressive. Definitely got the gears turning. Great job man!

fpjr0 02-25-2010 10:56 PM

Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info
 
I got 200 miles in swap in three days..:metal: everything cool.. except for the part of the ghost wiper blades :lol:

fpjr0 02-27-2010 09:50 PM

Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info
 
maybe bob did get pissed cuz I posted the pics lol.. hasnt come to his thread lately :o

menace121978 02-27-2010 10:24 PM

Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info
 
:) dont trip man... Bob's a busy guy. sometimes i think he just checks his pm's. He's probably making plans and drawings for his trailing arm kit!:lol: right when you think his thread dies he comes back with something new and improved. we're all happy to see your posts:D

fpjr0 02-28-2010 03:10 PM

Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info
 
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Originally Posted by menace121978 (Post 3829824)
:) dont trip man... Bob's a busy guy. sometimes i think he just checks his pm's. He's probably making plans and drawings for his trailing arm kit!:lol: right when you think his thread dies he comes back with something new and improved. we're all happy to see your posts:D

I bet man... he's probably done with the trailing arm and working on the drawing for the next mod!!!!lol

I have bad news on mine.... seems like the transm. fluid went from clean pink to brown-burnt smell in a matter of minutes,, I have no overdrive and its slips bad from 2nd to 3rd ,,, at least I still have 1st and 2nd to do burn outs :metal::metal:

68 TT 03-01-2010 12:37 PM

Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info
 
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Originally Posted by fpjr0 (Post 3830957)
I bet man... he's probably done with the trailing arm and working on the drawing for the next mod!!!!lol

I have bad news on mine.... seems like the transm. fluid went from clean pink to brown-burnt smell in a matter of minutes,, I have no overdrive and its slips bad from 2nd to 3rd ,,, at least I still have 1st and 2nd to do burn outs :metal::metal:

These tuned LS swaps are making more power than the stock 4L60E can handle without being upgraded. It was marginal in stock form.

There are lots of failure points at about 340 hp in the 4L60E with Camaro's that need addressed for it to live and in a truck they probably happen sooner due to the extra weight.

http://www.drivetrain.com/parts_cata...lures_on_4L60E

Cherub 03-01-2010 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by 68 TT (Post 3832972)
These tuned LS swaps are making more power than the stock 4L60E can handle without being upgraded. It was marginal in stock form.

There are lots of failure points at about 340 hp in the 4L60E with Camaro's that need addressed for it to live and in a truck they probably happen sooner due to the extra weight.

http://www.drivetrain.com/parts_cata...lures_on_4L60E

Yea GM didnt really think this through real well putting a 4l605 4l65e and 4l70e with any 6.0s Ive already went through one 4l70e in my trailblazer at 30k miles. the best thing you can do is just put a trans cooler and pray you dont boil the trans fluid. 4l80e seems to be pretty stout

qu1cks1lver56 03-02-2010 12:47 AM

Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info
 
We had to have a new transmission in our '05 CCSB Z71 @ 30k miles.

JohnC 03-02-2010 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherub (Post 3833201)
Yea GM didnt really think this through real well putting a 4l605 4l65e and 4l70e with any 6.0s Ive already went through one 4l70e in my trailblazer at 30k miles. the best thing you can do is just put a trans cooler and pray you dont boil the trans fluid. 4l80e seems to be pretty stout

I didn't need to hear that. Mine just rolled over 31K.

STOCKISH 03-02-2010 10:46 AM

Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info
 
4l80e FTW!!! I am so glad mine didnt come with a 4l60 if thats all the better they are. I am not sure whats in my 07 CCSB Silverado but it seems ok. 55K so far.

glock35ipsc 03-02-2010 01:16 PM

Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info
 
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Originally Posted by fpjr0 (Post 3829749)
maybe bob did get pissed cuz I posted the pics lol.. hasnt come to his thread lately :o

Me?? Pfffft, never! Post away. The truck looks sweet too! I've been a busy boy lately.

I guess I am the only one to have ever beat on a 4L60E and had it survive. :confused: My 03 ECSB 2wd had a 5.3L with a Whipple supercharger and a 4L60E. I put tens of thousands of miles on it, and I wasn't easy on it either. :devil: The truck made probably a dozen trips to our property in the Black Hills in South Dakota pulling our loaded 21' travel trailer, and under boost most of the way too! :lol: I know of a few trucks on performancetrucks.net that are making over 400 rwhp through the stock 60E. I suppose it's all in how you take care of it. For everyone that knows of someone that can blow up a stock one with a stock engine, I seem to know of someone that hammers the crap out of theirs and they are still ticking. Hmm, oh well. I have no complaints with mine, or any of the others that I have had (4 that I can think of), and will keep just pounding on them.

On another note.... I had a thought on the temp sensors. I think instead of drilling the passenger head, I think I will just lengthen the wires for the sensor on the drivers head and move it to the pass head. Then I will have tons of room and visibility to be able to drill and tap the drivers head and move the gauge sender there.

As for the rear suspension swap, I have no idea when I will do that. I'm getting the brakes done tomorrow, that's in March's budget. Then next month I will finish up the A/C system, that's in April's budget. It's reaching the 50's here, it's gonna be getting HOT here real soon!! :haha: I still have a few parts to order for the rear suspension, and I need to order the parts to make the pan hard bar. So that will go in the budget for sometime after April probably.

Otherwise, we are putting major cash away now for our Disney trip next year, and we are sending my parents on an Alaskan cruise for their 50th anniversary, and I am planning on buying a new (to me) truck by next fall. So once the brakes and A/C is done, I'll probably do the rear suspension sometime in the late summer or maybe even fall. Otherwise, he is going to be plain ol' Fred until sometime late next year. Then I'll have to drag Gerald over to help me swap the oil pan and put some new color on him. :D

Driveway Dreams 03-03-2010 01:46 AM

Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info
 
Bring it on!! :thumbs:
That Gerald guy is gonna have some free weekends again real soon and should have some parts coming for that motor too. Then swap-a-roonie!!! 355 power baby! :lol:

glock35ipsc 03-03-2010 10:37 AM

Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info
 
Hey Gerald, check out this color. It's a Mercedes-Benz color, Bordeaux Red Metallic. One of my welders here just bought a 99 M-B E320 that is that color, and it looks sweet!

This isn't his car, but this is the color:

http://www.globalautolease.com/uploa...pecials/00.jpg

Driveway Dreams 03-03-2010 10:44 AM

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Very nice looking color. Still tossing around ideas for a 2-tone too?

glock35ipsc 03-03-2010 10:51 AM

Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info
 
It's still in the back of my mind, but in the end I'm thinking it will probably be just one color.

Driveway Dreams 03-03-2010 10:55 AM

Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info
 
Well that Benz color is pretty close to what I thought you wanted to do. I just was thinking a little darker.

JohnC 03-03-2010 10:56 AM

Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info
 
That is a nice color. It will look good on Fred.

68 TT 03-03-2010 12:44 PM

Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info
 
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Originally Posted by JohnC (Post 3837269)
That is a nice color. It will look good on Fred.

There are several very similar colors from the 60's & early 70's that Chevy had.

My 66 El Camino code N was Madeira Maroon and it was identical to that M-B color.

http://www.tcpglobal.com/autocolorli...rolet-pg01.jpg

My 70 Chevelle code 78 was Black Cherry and it was just a little darker than that.

http://www.tcpglobal.com/autocolorli...rolet-pg01.jpg

It is not as dark as the chip shows. Might be worth a look for you if you wanted it a little darker plus it would be a GM color on there too.

glock35ipsc 03-03-2010 12:53 PM

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I'd like to see that black cherry on something. Now that you mention it, my buddy that is doing my brakes right now has his Harley painted a black cherry color. I'll have to take a closer look at it when I go pick up the truck.

Thanks for the links!

fpjr0 03-03-2010 10:37 PM

Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info
 
any of those colors will look good on fred!!!

bigdnew 03-03-2010 11:32 PM

Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info
 
Holy crap I my brain is numb. I've read every post in this thread and even clicked on a couple of links in two days.

I have an '86 lwd 2wd that currently has a tired carbed 305 and a tired th350 trans.

I am heading to Dallas tomorrow to pick up a 25,000 6.0 from a totalled 2005 3500.
I am getting everything dbw, computer, complete harness all accesories, manifolds, y pipe, everything.

A local trans is rebuilding my th350 to handle the 6.0 for $200.00 and some change. Thank you Bob and "Fred" for your inspiration. Should be a pretty straight forward swap.

My biggest concern right now is motor mounts. What should I go with so I can just bolt the 6.0 to the trans in it's stock location.

Sure I have left something out but again, thank you.

bluex 03-04-2010 02:33 AM

Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info
 
Glock,

You may want to check this tread. He tried to use a stock 67-72 crossmember and it hit the cab floor....

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=389909

glock35ipsc 03-04-2010 11:00 AM

Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info
 
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Originally Posted by bigdnew (Post 3838674)

My biggest concern right now is motor mounts. What should I go with so I can just bolt the 6.0 to the trans in it's stock location.

Awesome to hear! You will love that 6.0! Use the same adapter plates that I used, the ones that have the upper ear that point forward, along with the stock 350 clam shells and you will be within 1/8" at the bellhousing. I can't remember if we threw out the part number in here or not, but you will need a crank/flex plate adapter. It's available from GM and is only around $30 or so. Find any post made by Thealien and check his LS info link in his sig, I am certain he will have it listed in there.

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Originally Posted by bluex (Post 3839002)
Glock,

You may want to check this tread. He tried to use a stock 67-72 crossmember and it hit the cab floor....

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=389909

Great thread, thanks!!

bigdnew 03-04-2010 11:14 AM

Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info
 
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Originally Posted by glock35ipsc (Post 3839272)
the ones that have the upper ear that point forward, along with the stock 350 clam shells and you will be within 1/8" at the bellhousing. I can't remember if we threw out the part number in here or not, but you will need a crank/flex plate adapter. It's available from GM and is only around $30 or so. Find any post made by Thealien and check his LS info link in his sig, I am certain he will have it listed in there.

Where did you get your motor mounts.

glock35ipsc 03-04-2010 11:30 AM

Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info
 
Adapter plates here:

http://carshop.carshopinc.com/produc...id/74328/LS1GM

For the crank/flexplate, you can do an complete crank adapter and new flexplate kit:

http://advanceadapters.com/product/3741/712500A.html

Or just the adapter:

www.gmpartsdirect.com Search part number 12563532.

Thealien 03-04-2010 11:38 AM

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ANOTHER ADAPTER PLATE SOURCE

glock35ipsc 03-04-2010 11:47 AM

Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info
 
THAT'S the adapter plates I was originally looking for!!! He is who I got mine from, definitely a much better price. I guess it's been so long since I've used eBay, my searching skills are slipping. :lol: Thanks Thealien!

glock35ipsc 03-05-2010 04:19 PM

Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info
 
Well, Fred finally got new brakes on Wednesday. New shoes and pads, new drums, turned the rotors, and new front bearings and seals. Stops on a dime now, and I don't have that loud howl as I come to a stop. The rear drums had been machined waaaay beyond spec!! And the rotors were warped, so it tried to shake me to death on hard stops. :lol:

I'm taking a couple friends to the last regular season hockey game here next Saturday, so I will be taking my wife's Trailblazer, and she is going to drive Fred to work that night. I told her no more than 3 burnouts are allowed! :haha:

STOCKISH 03-05-2010 04:30 PM

Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info
 
So Bob, you an Avalanche fan? Just curious. Go 'Canes!!!

glock35ipsc 03-05-2010 04:37 PM

Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info
 
Nope, I think I may have watched 1... maybe 2 Avs games ever. This is the Colorado Eagles, our CHL team here in town. My parents, my brother and sis-in-law, and my wife and I all go in together for season tickets. We've had them since the team was first organized.

Driveway Dreams 03-06-2010 12:22 AM

Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info
 
And they (the Eagles) are AWESOME! You gonna measure the tread depth before she leaves with him and after she gets him home? :lol:

glock35ipsc 03-06-2010 12:39 PM

Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info
 
I probably should, eh? :lol:

fpjr0 03-07-2010 07:02 PM

Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info
 
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Originally Posted by glock35ipsc (Post 3841688)

my wife going to drive Fred to work that night. I told her no more than 3 burnouts are allowed! :haha:

make sure you tell her how long this 3 burnouts should last,, otherwise she might only need one loooooong burnout and be without tires left..:lol:

fpjr0 03-07-2010 09:16 PM

Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info
 
bob you should also try not to leave that much gas in it so she cant be driving it all over town lol

camdNsprayd 03-09-2010 09:29 PM

Re: Glock's new project: "Fred" w/ 5.3L LS swap info
 
Ok for those using the high psi hose...how are u mating it up to the sending unit?...are yall using one of those adapters like the dorman one for the fuel filter?


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