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Jeff, this looks great. I'm very impressed. Bruce
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It's been a fun project. Now I just need a lever extension and skid plate and it will be a wrap! I will post pics of the lever extension that came with the winch. Now that the winch is actually installed you can see how the last owner had it setup! I plan to make one that comes out in front of the grill. |
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nice job! a jigsaw? really? I had visions of a torch. Good to know.
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Original winch owner used this piping with a small offset and a set screw. It was accessed by popping the hood and reaching between the grill and radiator. He my not have had air because it comes pretty close to my condenser. But I would rather not pop the hood to operate the winch anyhow.
This morning I did a mock up of a flat bar extension to come up through the bumper right in front of the grill. It has a lot of holes for mock up. It bolts to the clutch handle and snakes through the bumper in front of the grill. I had to jockey it around a bit to get it were I wanted, so I bolted the joint at first to get the angle correct and height on mounting on clutch handle, then I welded the joint. Guess I never took pics of it coming through the bumper in front of the grill. Now that I have it mocked up I can cut, bend and weld a clean one. Then I'll post some installed pics. Original owners clutch handle extension Attachment 1517747 Clutch handle extension coming between grill and condenser. Attachment 1517749 My flat bar extension side view. More offset to come out through bumper. Attachment 1517751 Front view of flat bar extension. Attachment 1517752 |
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Finished making a hasp plate for the extended handle a few days ago, finally installed it today.
About the extended handle and hasp plate. I decided that I did not like the idea of someone being able to walk by and maybe slap the clutch lever and set the spool into free. Although I keep a bit of tension on my cable, and it is hard to move the handle, I am a bit cautious. With a short 6" handle you probably need to pull pretty hard to get it into free with out letting up tension on the line. But now my handle is probably close to a foot or maybe 10 inches longer, much more leverage. So I drilled a hole in the handle where it protrudes from the bumper; and made a hasp plate with a corresponding hole. Put on a 5/6" hitch pin to keep it locked down. The extended handle works great! :metal: Here's the results. Hasp plate masked for lettering and final black coat. Attachment 1520114 Hitch Pin Attachment 1520116 Installed with hitch pin. There is 1/4" between the handle and the hasp, they never touch. The handle does not rattle around at all. Attachment 1520118 The setup works great. Attachment 1520119 |
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Nice one, you think maybe a lock would be better so nobody will play with it?
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Thought about a small lock, but if someone really wants to take the time to remove the hitch pin and mess with it.... then I probably got bigger problems. Plus I lose keys; and I like the convenience of everything accessible up front and ready for service, kind of a no frills deal.... just business. |
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Calling this project done for now. It'll be awhile before I get around to making a skid plate or custom bumper. Though I have decided on an aux battery setup in the near future. I didn't mind cutting my bumper, taking a serious look at it I decided I need an new one.
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Nicely done, really looks great. How do you post pics here? I use your thread as inspiration to start my worm drive rebuild. Bruce
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Thanks Bruce, I really love the winch!
Posting pics is a two part deal. 1) Go to manage attachments below your post, before you submit the post,and browse for the image and click upload. 2) After the image is uploaded go to the paper clip in the tool bar and select the image to get the tag of the image to show in the text you are typing. This way you can write something above or below the image, by typing above or below the image tag. If you only do step 1 your pics will be lumped together. |
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nice write up. i have a worm drive winch. the clutch handle is stuck and i can't move it to free. what do you think is wrong?
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Why do you not like the mounts?
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I was critical of the mounts on my first visual inspection because of the notch. That was just my first thoughts really. But the mount iron is 5/16(darn thick!). So I'm guessing they accounted for the notching with the thicker iron. I'm guessing some other things will bend before the mounts. No longer an issue for me. I will be leaving the winch mounted as is. |
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Got rid of the roller fairlead and replaced with a steel hawse. Painted everything black and did some painting on the grill. Working on second battery now.
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that's a nice option that keeps the stock pumper. grats!
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jeffahart and dazza,
Thanks for the great pictures and install/rebuild info. I might be the proud owner of one of these by the end of the week. I paid by Paypal and have tracking numbers but sometimes you just never know about interweb purchases.....If I need to go through it when it arrives I'll be using your guidance here for sure so thanks again. jeffahart, I like the clean look of the hawse fairlead, I'll be using the same set up on my bumper that just got delivered last week. Here is what it is going on. I have tow hooks so I'll be skipping the shackles. |
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One of the things you can do with a steel hawse is stick your finger around a ball or u-joint and finger scrape a bit of excess grease; and then swab the hawse hole before you run line. Helps a bit, especially if you have a used hawse with a bit of rust.
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Anyhow, if you have access to a machine shop, and if you have to replace the motor, I would get the large collar gear and seal kit and give it a good look over. I didn't want to pay to have my motor fixed, and the only new one I found was north of $300 (a kings ransom for a simple motor like this). So I went with the cheap maintainable route. I'm not calling my decision good or bad, just my decision when I was at the motor/gear crossroad! In the end I got the 10 spline motor working, go figure! I gave it to Bruce. You can have my old gear if you want it, pretty sure I still have it. Might be in a bit better shape than yours, not sure. I can dig it up an photo if your interested. :chevy: j |
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I figure if I have to swap my motor I will pull the winch and probably open the transfer case; but it will be nice to not have to pull the gear. I'm now looking forward to the hex nut stripping out after it freezes! :lol: But my main point I wanted to make besides being a smart A$$. Regarding leaking transfer seals, if they do leak and you went with the old setup... I think these transfers are a perfect candidate for corn head grease. If you've never herd of the John Deere Corn Head grease check it out. In a nutshell, it's grease until it get's warmed up by the gears, then it becomes an oil. Then thickens again when it cools. It won't leak. These things aren't like transmissions or rear ends, they run short bursts at low speed. So a maintenance free lubricant is tempting. I wouldn't hesitate to use it in the main housing with the worm and bronze gear either. I considered filling mine with corn head grease. When I put the oil in I wondered if I would ever change it, not likely. So, I considered a fire and forget lubricant like the corn head grease. But I put oil in for the bench test and it's stayed that way so far. I run the winch line out about five feet every time I wash the truck, just to keep oil spun up in the top. If I used the corn head grease, it would stick a bit better up high and I could probably go quite a while without running the winch. Just another two cents! :chevy: Oh and yes... Pics Pics Pics... we love pictures of winches! j |
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Hhmmm, corn head grease, that's a new one for me. Let everyone know how that turns out. I do have a question about how you mounted yours. I mocked mine up (no guts inside it just the end cases and mount bars). When I put the unit up to the frame the mount bars hit the leaf spring shackles. Specifically they hit the mounting rivets of shackle. I doesn't matter if I move the winch slightly back or more forward, it will hit either way. Also if I do move the whole unit more forward I run out of frame to drill any new holes (the holes would be too close to the frame edge). Do you have any close up pics of your mounts, maybe from the bottom? Did you have to use any shims to get it to work?
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