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Id be concerned about the expansion of the aluminum rim and the caliper myself anyway

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Sounds like winner! i wouldn't worry about deflection. the action of the caliper is strait horizontal, so there is no force at angle to deflect the bracket. if there is, it would indicate a frozen caliper slide.

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I build enough old Kawasaki motorcycles to know how much aluminum will expand/contract in different temps,Id be really carefull about having enough clearance to allow for it.

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Mcmlxix, did you happen to have measured the inside of the wheel? I'd also like to go to bigger front brakes on my D60, but I have 16.5" H1 wheels. They're actually pretty big inside, something like 15 3/4".
Now that I'm taking a closer look at the inside of your wheels, I see they are pretty big, too....

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I did not measure the inside of the wheel. I know it tapers, gets smaller closer to the mounting pad. I seriously doubt it will fit in a 16.5" rim. It barely fits the 17" rim.... I may end up with 18's later...

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I have been receiving PMs asking if I will be selling the brackets.... I have no real answer yet. It will depend on a few key factors, mainly function and cost. I also have to think about liability. If I do sell anything, it will be a paper weight that happens to resemble a caliper bracket. It would not be welded. The cost will probably be high as I am paying retail pricing for materaials. The other cost would be to sign up as a vendor on here....

For now, lest just see how this all plays out.... While I appreciate all the support, until the truck is running and driving I will not be responding to PMs about selling brackets.

Thanks.

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mine are not exactly the same, but i know they wont fit a 16.5 i tried with my rollers. i had to keep the calipers off to mount my rollers.
mine are 03-09 dodge brakes and have the same size rotor, slightly different caliper
Ryan

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Alright, good to know! I'll try something different then.

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I am very very interested in this upgrade. I would like to perform a similar upgrade but I would like it to fit in the factory 16" steel wheels. Any recommendations?

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I would try the later model chevy HD brakes. they are sized for 16" wheels

Ryan

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Rich, I saw in your "new to me 1972 K5" thread a couple of changes that you were making regarding the front hubs and possibly the caliper brackets. How are you doing with this?
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That is one sweet build on the D60 brakes!!!!! Could you please PM me on the availability?
Jim

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I reread everything from the beginning & see you used 2009 Dodge rotors but I don't see what they come off of or should I say what there for? I also see you used a Dodge caliper but I don't see what's from. Can you please let me know what truck there from?
Thanks,
Jim

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They are from a 2500 4x4 truck

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Ryan,
Thank you!
Jim

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PM sent.
Jim

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Jim,
My project is moving slowly and I'm not offering brackets till I'm sure everything works... When the truck is up an running I'll post here and my build thread...

The parts were 2009-2010 Dodge Ram 2500 / 3500 pickup rotors and calipers. They barely fit a 17" rim and I will eventually upgrade to some 18" aftermarket rims...

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Thank you for the reply!!!
Jim

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Rich, slow moving over here in Michigan, its warm enough to work outside now. Started axle dissasembly yesterday. As I thought new lockouts will be required. King pins are wasted. Rim question, I have set of 2005 17" Dodge Powerwagon wheels sitting on my garage floor. They are supposed to be a forged rim. I can get some measurements if needed?

http://www.dieseltruckresource.com/c...130301_004.jpg

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If you go on Raybestos website and look various Dodge rotors for 3/4 and 1 tons, model years 2005-2009 there are (4) different rotors that cover this time period. The all have different diameters, thickness's and heights. This could allow you to move the caliper more inboard or outboard to help with wheel fitment.

RB_P/N_______DIA"_______Thick"______Height"
780143R______13.89"_____1.339"______4.01"
780139R______13.855"____1.118"______5.15"
780736R______14.175"____1.472"______4.021"***used for this conversion
780733R______14.094"____1.276"______4.913

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Does anybody know where to buy drilled rotors for a d60? What are peoples thoughts on drilled vs slotted vs drilled and slotted?

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I'm not a fan, as the drilled holes allow a place for cracks to start and I see it as more of a gimmick and form over function for street vehicles. Also, a D60 rotor has a lot of mass to absorb and dissipate heat. I would put a set of good pads (not sure if EBC makes them for a D60) on a set of stock rotors for better braking.

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the concept is sound. it allows the escape of gasses that build up under the pad from braking. thus allowing the pad better engagement of the rotor. but i dont have any side by side testing that proves it. i wouldnt be to scared of a crack starting in a round hole. if you get a rotor hot enough to crack, it probably wont matter much if it had holes or not. but i agree, i would start with performance pads if you can find them. i bet your options are pretty limited with oem stuff. you can get different hubs for a d60 and use wilwood rotors and calipers if you wanted but that would be a significant investment.

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When i was on rockauto looking at rotors they had a listing for drilled and slotted rotors, i have researched the cracking issues and what not and i decided stock rotors have worked more than okay so i went with stock and i believe ebc makes pads called yellowstuff as i saw it on a 60 build then i went to summit and asked them and they gave me a part # but it was over 100$ so i was like nope and went with the original pads

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Stainless steel brakes has some.
http://ssbrakes.com/c-624171-vehicle...-products.html

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I have installed several sets on various vehicles (no Dana fronts though) of owner provided drilled, slotted, drilled and slotted rotors, and I have to say the metallurgy of these aftermarket rotors are far inferior to what OE and even parts store quality.

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Jeremy, how do you quantify that? ive never noticed anything OEM that i would claim to be of great quality. i personally have nothing with aftermarket brakes, but i have ridden in a few vehicles before and after with EBC pads and one with the rotors. the cts we put the rotors and redstuff pads on isnt driven enough to have any longevity reports on the rotors. the yellowstuff pads make a significant improvement over parts store pads. i am interested in running the rotors and pads on my truck but i wouldnt want to spend the cash on bunk parts.

i have actually gone back and forth on using just the pads vs the rotors and pads. the slots and holes actually have a purpose, but for most street driving i dont think the pads would gas off much unless you are making repeated stops or slowing down from pretty high speeds. otherwise its just for looks. my reasoning for wanting better brakes was noticable fade in the brakes on a 03 dodge cummins truck driving in city freeway conditions. going fast but having to slow down frequently, i could smell the pads cooking and feel distinct fade. so, given a heavy truck with the power to accelerate and need to slow down aggressively the stock brakes were gassing off enough to fade. but, id hate to spend the money on parts of lower quality and higher cost.

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Ryan, what I should have said in reference to aftermarket was eBay "quality" aftermarket... EBC are schweet from what I hear, and when it comes to brakes, you get what you pay for.

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Rich, any progress on the disc brake upgrade? I'm sure you've been busy with other stuff as well.

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Not yet. Had a bunch of rust repair done. Turned into a frame off resto-mod... Body work should be finished this week and Line-X next week. After that all the mechanicals will start going back together. I'm guessing January at the earliest...

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Good work sir! This should be a nice rig with some great functionality!

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Here are some of my pics. of my calliper brackets i built for my dana 60 using same disks and callipers (2012 ram 3500) also used master from 2007 k3500 callipers are machined out of solid piece 14x14x2 A36 plate then case harden to approx. 56 rc 20-30 thou.deep my reasoning for using a36 was largely cost motivated and seeing that no where on bracket is less than .700 thick failure was not an issue i want to thank mcmlxix for all the useful info. :canada:

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Those came out awesome! I like them better then my multi piece design that requires welding...

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those certainly are sweet! i pondered that same approach when i did mine, but i dont have that kind of skillz on the CNC

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You should reproduce and sell those here.
Dumb question-but you got the calipers and discs from a 2012 Ram-Why wouldn't the caliper brackets from the same truck not fit?
Different design on the Dana 60 years?

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It would be great to be able to buy an aftermarket brake kit like this. You can buy just about anything you want for older cars as far as upgraded disc brake kits go, something like this is long overdue for trucks.

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Used later model ram disks and calipers because there 14.125 dia. with large dual piston calipers [more surface area,bigger dia.,more stopping power]noticed a big difference in stopping performance

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DWL, what kind/year truck did you do this work to? Also, how about the rear brakes, did you upgrade to a rear disc as well, or swap a newer disc brake rear diff into the truck? Thanks

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First things first- SORRY- WELCOME TO THE FORUM!!!!
Now-
Why wouldn't the caliper bracket interchange from the same Ram truck?
:welcome2::welcome2::welcome2:

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The truck the brakes came from has a unit bearing design and the steering knuckle has the caliper mounting points built into that, no external bracket.

http://cstsuspension.com/103-582-lar...d-spindles.jpg