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Really outstanding photographs Alan - a wealth of detail that I know I'm going to tap once I'm ready to do the sheet metal work on "The Tan."

Thank You.

Mac. :chevy:

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Alan......Went ahead and ordered the rear fender braces for the front fenders, should arrive Tuesday.
Keep up the great work !!!!!!!

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I'm welding my seams for a cleaner look and also to keep rust from forming where the 2 pieces come together. Seam sealer might could be used, but I wouldn't just my preferrence. I used a grinding stone (wheel) on a die grinder to clean up the welds. I think I have a pic of the grinding stone somewhere in my build. I think it is a 3M 1991 grinding wheel.

Glad it will help you.;)

Thanks, it will be a better repair.


First I have a question. The bed parts that come from Mar-K are galvanized if I'm not mistaken. What do ya'll use to prep it for primer?

Summer cold came back with a vengence today. I had to keep a drip pan under my nose all day. Got home and got some DP90 on the inner bed panels. It kept getting surface rust where they were handled. I removed the rust prints prior to painting. The pic is before I did that. DP90 will show all of the dents which is helpful when it is time to repair. I've got to mock the bed up and weld in the angles to the inner panels.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...d/DSC00346.jpg

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...d/DSC00350.jpg

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...d/DSC00351.jpg

Got slick sand on the fender also.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...d/DSC00352.jpg

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...d/DSC00353.jpg

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Fender looking good.........Happy Happy Happy :bann:

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You should be. Nice job Allan. :metal:

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man that fender looks slick. pun intended. You might be able to dukes of hazzard it when your done!

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Alan, its been awhile since I did that, but since it is new, I would just wipe the panel down with a good wax and grease remover, let that dry and scuff with a red scotch brite pad, wipe down again and let dry then shoot 2 coats of DP90. After that, top coat as you prefer.

You want to scuff the surface of the galvanized to create a profile for the paint (DP90) to adhere properly. You do not want to remove all of the zinc coating, just as little as needed to get a good scuff so that the paint sticks.

Looking good as usual!!!!!

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good to know I have sheets of galv. I was goin to use it for my floor in the ext cab. so I guess its a go then

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I'm sure you know...be very careful welding galvanized metal....the fumes are deadly.

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I might be chiming in late or irrelavant but I have read that you shouldnt paint over galvanized steel because the zinc coating forms an oxide which protects the steel and will continue to do so even under painted surfaces. I could be way off base here though :p

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I want to paint for cosmetic. also when you weld you will burn off the ink.(I have a respirator/fresh air hood) So it will have to be coated..

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I had a guy weld a hay rack on top of my horse trailer. It was gal. he passed out and rolled off the top.:lol: I think he's still alive though.

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:lol:

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well did he atleast land in a hay bail?

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Nope. Right in the dirt.:lol: Started doing the fish out of water thing. I got kinda scaried. Thought I was going to have to do mouth to mouth or somthing. He would have died if that was the case.;)

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should have thrown him in the pond.

Alan get home from work and get to work on the trucks. we need more motovation pics!

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I can't believe Allan has a real job and still gets twice( ten times) as much done on his truck as I do.:lol: I guess I better go throw on some filler and sand for awhile.;)

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He's going to be pissed when he see's we jacked up his thread.:lol::sumo::lol:+2 just wasting time

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I think he's hanging out at the pool.........Probably get some good pic's then :lol:

[QUOTE) Alan get home from work and get to work on the trucks. we need more motovation pics![/QUOTE]

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Lookin good. Wished Alan lived near me to do my body work too.. :D

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Maybe we should get him to sell his house and buy a travel trailer, a mobile welding and paint shop. Then he could just travel the country and fix trucks. That would be my dream job!

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Thanks fellers!!

Thumbs up. I can't use the smileys because I'm only allowed 10 per post.. I also have to delete some of the ones already posted.

Thanks for the info and comment. I figured there was some speacial process to go thru.

Yes sir you are right.

Don't know if you off base or not, but haven't heard of that. I've read that the oils need to be removed and so on.

LOL

Man, don't any of ya'll work. Or is it your jobs to jack threads while noone is lookin' :haha:

Yeah, go do something productive. LOL

Nope, not pissed. I needed a good laugh

I wish. LOL

thumbs up

Yeah, I mentioned that in my build somewhere. If I was single I think I would consider something like that.

No motivational pics
But have an update...........After I DP90 the inner bed panels and looked at them, the more I realized it would be cheaper to just get new ones. I didn't want 198 to worry about it so I called him up to tell him what I was thinking. I decided to give him his money back (credit towards labor) on the bed since the labor to repair would outweigh the cost of new panels. He agreed and was very pleased with my decision. He said not many people would have done that. It's not all about the money. It's about the love we have for old cars and making the other person feel like they got treated right. Yeah it hurts a little, but when it is all said and done it will work out. Just goes to show you, you never know what your going to get your self into with these old trucks. This bed looked pretty good to me before this whole process started. Once you get them shinny again everything is evident.

He called me a little while ago to let me know he had found a fleet bed that had been blasted and primed and is pretty solid. Lets see what round 2 brings us. So needless to say the SWB step side bed is for sale again. It can be fixed and if I wanted a step bed I would straighten it and use it since it would only cost me some time and some materials.

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It will get old after a while. Nice to dream though.:truck:

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Allan your a good guy. :thumbs: I think you did the right thing. It's hard to judge how long something will take. There's no guide for flat rate times for restoration, or fabrication. When you look at the bed he brings you. Just say this time once you start it there's no refund on labor no matter what you find. Remember when you give a price for repair say it's an estimate, and could cost more depending what you find. The last truck fenders I straightened I charged a little more than half of what it would cost for a new one. But if it's not available, then I charge a lot more. With your attitude you will have repeat customers, and they will recommend you for future jobs. I try not to take advantage of people and be honest with them. It pays off in the end. But some times the customer takes advantage of YOU. :m6:

What do you charge per hour? I'm only at $40. But most of the time I don't charge by the hour. How can you justify spending 20 hours fabricating special motor mounts, transmission mounts for a car that nobody has anything for. I lost track how many times I had the engine in and out.

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I find this very interesting, when I started out doing web design, I could easily charge that, now 15 years later, I am down to barely $20 because there is always some young kid with no car payment, no house payment and a new computer for only $500 taking my work. Sorry don't mean to vent, just interesting to see that job types/wages can come full circle, I guess the reason is that typing on a keyboard has nothing to do with how much pressure you use, but a hammer/dolly on sheetmetal well we all know how much talent that takes! Ok I feel better now :lol: good looking work Alan & Dennis

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Yeah that's true.. makes for a bad week :lol:

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That's what I mean about customers taking advantage of us. Bottom line we still have to make a living at it. Plus have fun. :lol:

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Thanks, and vent any time. There's always someone doing it cheaper, and ruining the market. :cuss: There's still some people out there that want quality, and will pay for it. You get what you pay for.;)

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Thanks Dennis!

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Just think if you could morph Dennis and Allan together. Damn then things would get done.:lol: Guess that would be $80 per/hr.

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I hope I'm not taking this the wrong way ?????????

I have never ask Alan to give me a refund.....Never said a word about anything...... He offered to refund the money on the bed I bought from him, that we both thought was a lot straighter than it was.
Thanks Alan.

I would never ask for a refund on anything, unless it was crap work and probably wouldn't say anything about it anyway.....You know, it is what it is ;)

I'm not in the habit of taking advantage of people.

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I really didn't think that was the case.......Just clarifying to make sure everyone was on the same page ;)

No I had up to work all day.......Thanks to a couple of my guys laying out of work today :fry:

Will try to get it Sunday or Monday !!!!!!!!!

Re: 198Plus build by Alan's Classic
 

Thought I would share some pic's of a pretty Sharp stepside that was for sale at one of my friends shop.

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k1...1/truck013.jpg

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Drool drool....that is one awesome truck!! Thanks for sharing.

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:agree: Yes what Allan said. It was meant in general. None of that applied to you. You seem like a good guy too. Like everybody else on this forum. :thumbs:

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Thanks...I try to be a good guy :banghead:

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Don't knock your self out over it. :b69: :lol:

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Went and picked up my fleetside bed tonight........Came with new wood floor and stainless steel strips.......;)


Also picked up another stainless steel grill that is brand new. :bann: