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68Timber 01-25-2016 03:29 PM

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Here's a shot of the pretty side of the mounts, then on to getting them mounted to the console. The lower tabs that will attach to the floor were left a little long, once I get it where I want it in the truck I'll trim them up a little tidier. I'm going to paint the bases and console, but I want to get it mounted in the truck first and make sure it's all good first. And it'll get a padded arm rest.

48cj2a 01-25-2016 03:44 PM

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Nice work!

Amazing what a little scuff pad can do!

You can never have enough Ammo Cans:

http://www.sturmgewehr.com/bhinton/M...sInGarageA.jpg

68Timber 01-25-2016 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 48cj2a (Post 7461111)
Nice work!

Amazing what a little scuff pad can do!

You can never have enough Ammo Cans:

http://www.sturmgewehr.com/bhinton/M...sInGarageA.jpg

Thanks man! Oh my - if you start a console bidness you have a lifetime supply! LOL

68Timber 01-25-2016 05:28 PM

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Next four pics - In the first pic you can see the console sitting where it needs to go, base attached. It looks tall, but the base height and padded armrest height were taken in consideration to get the thing up to my elbow to make it a comfortable place to rest your arm. Second pic - remember I said these things were spec'd cheap? Uncle Sam said if you smoke, bring your own d@mn lighter. I quit smoking a couple of years back, but... Where to charge our screens? We're lost without our screens! Pic three you can see where this is going and pic four how I chose to solve it. I'm mounting one on the front and one on the back, so even if the whole family is in the car they can keep their screens charged.

Question: I want to use two 12v distribution boxes of the enclosed variety, one hot and one ground, so I don't have to go redneck and make six wires teed off the main hot and main ground. Well, five, but you get the idea. One thing the console has is more depth than necessary, so I'm going to make a short four-legged "table" for the inside that will be the new bottom of the console, maybe three fingers tall? Just high enough so the wires to the chargers and distribution blocks have room, kinda like the raised floor in a computer room. It'll be flush to all the sides so nothing can get past it but liquid, but I would like the wiring underneath to be neat and safe. Ideas?

48cj2a 01-25-2016 05:47 PM

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Go to your favorite box store (Menards, Lowes, Home Depot) and buy a Carlon Plastic 2-Gang weather proof box and lid.

http://images.lowes.com/product/conv...81144007lg.jpg

http://images.lowes.com/product/conv...81115120lg.jpg

You can then easily mount it to the bottom.

Mount these inside (one for + and one for -)

http://images.lowes.com/product/conv...50685707lg.jpg

Use these for entry into the ammo can and the electrical box for weather seal and restraint with a piece of heavy drop cord 16 gauge minimum

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...AL._SX466_.jpg

Willowrun 01-25-2016 06:03 PM

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Nice work on the console. I've always just stuck civvy consoles in my M1009's and while they work, I like keeping the military look like you have so I may try this on my next one. A couple questions:
What is the ammo can designation? I like the size you chose.
Do you have it centered between the seats or offset to the driver?

68Timber 01-25-2016 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 48cj2a (Post 7461225)
Go to your favorite box store (Menards, Lowes, Home Depot) and buy a Carlon Plastic 2-Gang weather proof box and lid.

http://images.lowes.com/product/conv...81144007lg.jpg

http://images.lowes.com/product/conv...81115120lg.jpg

You can then easily mount it to the bottom.

Mount these inside (one for + and one for -)

http://images.lowes.com/product/conv...50685707lg.jpg

Use these for entry into the ammo can and the electrical box for weather seal and restraint with a piece of heavy drop cord 16 gauge minimum

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...AL._SX466_.jpg

Thanks man, that's exactly what I need! The main feed will be fused but I still didn't like the thought of hot wire laying in the bottom of a metal can bolted to the body tub.

68Timber 01-25-2016 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Willowrun (Post 7461237)
Nice work on the console. I've always just stuck civvy consoles in my M1009's and while they work, I like keeping the military look like you have so I may try this on my next one. A couple questions:
What is the ammo can designation? I like the size you chose.
Do you have it centered between the seats or offset to the driver?

Thanks! It's a 20mm ammo can. The only hitch is, in original form, the lid unlatches at both ends and comes completely off. I wanted it hinged but didn't have a good idea for it. A friend cut the latch off what is now the back side, and used it to make a piano hinge, welded it back to the can and lid, and welded a stop into it. Pics below of what he did, and it works well. It's not bolted in the truck yet, but it's centered in the pic and will be when it's bolted down. I would have been fine with a stock console, but it seems like the people selling them never have the brackets that go with them.

68Timber 02-20-2016 03:41 PM

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I finally finished this console and got it in the truck. When I left off I'd made the mounting brackets but I ended up having to fit them to the floor. The front legs had to be curved to fit the tranny hump, the rear legs got a relief cut so the mounting tabs could be rotated back to fit the floor flat. Then the reliefs needed filler pieces welded in. Then I got it where I wanted it in the truck and drilled the floor. At that point I could paint it and put it all together.

68Timber 02-20-2016 03:49 PM

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I'm sure this is all overkill but I didn't like the idea of a 14 gauge wire run from under the hood into a metal can, even though it'll be fused. So I cut a wood "floor" for the bottom of the console then put the junction box in like 48cj2a suggested. The box is pictured open but it does have the lid on it now and then the shelf added above it that is now the bottom of the usable storage space. The ammo can is 14" deep, I put 3" legs on the shelf to cut the functional space down to a more reasonable 11".

68Timber 02-20-2016 03:54 PM

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I spent way too much time on the console, but it's done and turned out nice. The only thing I'm not 100% happy with is the arm rest pad, I had that done and honestly I think I could have done better. I made the base and have my own material, so the guy only charged me $15 to cover it. I won't be out much if I take it to someone and get it redone. But for now it'll do. I did add a stainless steel bow eye to the front of the box so it can be locked.

truckfan 02-20-2016 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 68Timber (Post 7493059)
I spent way too much time on the console, but it's done and turned out nice. The only thing I'm not 100% happy with is the arm rest pad, I had that done and honestly I think I could have done better. I made the base and have my own material, so the guy only charged me $15 to cover it. I won't be out much if I take it to someone and get it redone. But for now it'll do. I did add a stainless steel bow eye to the front of the box so it can be locked.

unreal. send me your number. you are hired!!!

MTCK 02-20-2016 07:10 PM

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Looks great nice work. Plenty of power now.

68Timber 02-21-2016 06:07 PM

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Thanks guys I appreciate it. We used the truck today to take the dirt bikes riding, it was nice having the armrest on the trip. The boys were disappointed the chargers aren't plugged up yet but we'll get to it.

68Timber 02-24-2016 03:42 PM

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Damn!t! Not good. Oh well. Hard to tell what happened in the picture because the paint is flat, but a limb fell on the cab and dented it up some including some metal damage into the windshield seal area plus busted the glass. I don't care nearly as much about the dent as not being able to get a new windshield and seal and just replacing them - the metal will have to be addressed first.

I am tempted to buy a stud welder and puller from Eastwood and trying my hand at fixing it. But I'd planned on getting it clear coated this spring anyway, so I'm going to take it to that guy tomorrow and see how much he wants to repair this too. No matter which one of us does it, the original paint will only be removed where a stud needs to be welded on. I can touch it up with rattle can primer and OD green. The truck will still be cleared satin/flat - that part I'm trusting him to figure out.

48cj2a 02-24-2016 04:08 PM

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That sucks, but parts should not be hard to find!

GM Weatherstrip # is 471009

Perfect time to get a windshield with an antenna for a stereo too if you don't already have one.


As for the paint hit it good with a pressure washer to knock off the nasty stuff build up from the elements, then use a scrub brush and some CLR before you clear it.

It will look like new!

by the way - Nice work on the Console Wiring!

68Timber 02-24-2016 05:08 PM

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Thanks for the part number, I didn't think they'd still have those available. It won't be hard to work on with the windshield out. The dash pad is still out, so whoever does the work can sit on the metal dash to work the metal back. The windshield was already cracked and I need one with the antenna anyway, so this isn't as big a deal as it would be on a different truck. But it's still going to be time and money. The Eastwood stud kit is $270. I can't discount his expertise, but if I do it myself I'll still have the tools. We'll see what he says and go from there.

dbstepside 02-24-2016 06:17 PM

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Man that does stink but it looks like you're trying to make lemonade so good luck with it.

68Timber 02-24-2016 10:21 PM

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Thanks. It sucks, but it does give me an excuse to buy a stud welder kit. I kinda want to try to fix it myself but we'll see.

Boog 02-24-2016 11:13 PM

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I hate that it happened but it's an excuse to pickup another power tool. It ain't all bad. ;)

68Timber 02-24-2016 11:26 PM

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Funny thing is, on Trucks! TV last Sunday, one of the new guys was showing the basics of pulling dents with studs and a slide hammer and I was watching and thinking how much I'd like to own one and try that.

I guess that's the route I'm going. I'm not budgeted for this but maybe I can make it work. I'm dang sure not going to make an insurance claim. Alright then. Let's give it a whirl.

68Timber 03-06-2016 09:01 PM

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Anyone else perpetually riding the Time & Money Pendulum? This was one of those weekends where I had plenty of one and none of the other, you can probably guess which. That's OK, there's always something to catch up on. I'd shelved a few projects while it was so dang cold, one of them was my drivers side window regulator. When I did all the work to the vent windows and doors, the drivers side door window had a tight spot in it when you rolled it up, but only with the door panel on. Weird, right? I ended up bending the new regulator before I figured it out. Well, Boog figured it for me, he suggested I check the inner door shell. It was bowed in a bare smidge, but it was enough to bind up with all new seals on everything, including the door panels. I'd rolled the window up and left it there for the winter. I was able to bend the inner shell back with my hands, it wasn't easy but it didn't have to move much. I'd already ordered a new regulator, so I got that installed. I didn't take a picture of this earlier, but I'd bought a roll of plastic sheeting at Home Depot and used it to line inside the doors. And I didn't take a picture, but I also replaced the foam strip at the lower inside of the door panel. Drivers side works well now.

68Timber 03-06-2016 09:24 PM

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I'd bought a bull bar from Irish1941, here's a pic of it on his truck:

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/n...ps2350bacb.jpg

But it wouldn't work on my truck due to the lift shackles. I had to change up the legs to make it fit my truck. The first pic shows the main hoop mounted after 2" have been sectioned out of each side, in the second pic I've mounted the two other legs to the front of the bumper instead of the top so I can tack them to the main hoop. Irish1941 had changed it from two lights to three before I bought it, last pic I've positioned two tabs to tack on.

68Timber 03-06-2016 09:31 PM

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Next pic, it's all welded up and ready for paint, and the last pic it's on the truck. Notice that windshield hasn't fixed itself.

MTCK 03-07-2016 01:04 AM

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Looking good. I did something similar sealing my doors on the crew cab. Weather looks nice.

68Timber 03-08-2016 12:35 PM

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Thanks man. These doors are notorious for wearing and shutting poorly but they shut and sound like new with just a little attention in the right spots.

68Timber 04-12-2016 10:10 PM

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Alright then, back to the windshield damage. I did not take enough pics to properly document what damage happened. The limb that fell had a curve in it, so it left two dents. One over the passenger side, but back from the windshield. That was probably the heavy end of the limb. It went deep enough to dent the inner cab shell, and when it popped that inner dent, it hit the vanity mirror on the visor and shattered it. I pushed up on the inner dent in the cab, it popped back into position. The second dent on top of the cab curved from the top and across the windshield gasket and made the mess I consider more serious - leaky windshields not allowed, especially when we have to buy a new one.

So, on to the pics. The first one is the damage as I found it, front view. You can see how the cab crown is mashed in on the passenger side. The second pic is terrible, but it's where I'd marked the perimeter of both dents with a yellow crayon. With flat paint, you can't see the edges of the dent even in person so I'm doing my Helen Keller bit, feeling with one hand and tracing with the other to outline my work area. Unfortunately, when I took the pic I was holding the camera up and couldn't see too good, so half the second dent is cut out of the pic. More pics to come though.

68Timber 04-12-2016 10:31 PM

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I did get a stud welder but not from Eastwood. Harbor Freight had one that had forty-something reviews and a 4.5 star rating on sale for $109 with the slide hammer. Good enough for me. I'm no body guy, no shape/no how, but I don't mind trying. Plus we've all watched a million builds over the years on TV and elsewhere - that doesn't equate into experience or make me an expert. But we've seen this done many times and I've got a truck here that doesn't need a perfect repair, it just needs to be repaired. Anyway, that's how I talked myself into this foolishment. On to the pics.

In the next few pics you can see where I've used an angle die grinder and roloc disk to remove the paint where I think I need a stud, welding studs, using the slide hammer, and removing studs. In the last pic, that's of my work space. I've got a blanket on the dash/cowl to sit on with the windshield out, so it's not awkward work.

68Timber 04-12-2016 10:47 PM

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And you keep at it until all of the concave dents are gone. The crown is back up there where it needs to be and the lip at the windshield is straight again. Bad pic, but it's straight. I did create some high spots that I need to tap back down. Last pic? Don't get carried away with the slide hammer if you have meat hooks for hands - it will take a bite.

Rain showed up so I pulled a tarp over it. But I got a 1 lb Bondo kit at the local Zone, so I am going to try giving it a skim coat and blocking it before paint repair. Also, I found two rust holes under the windshield gasket. I'm a total newb at welding but it's fun so I'm going to try repairing those myself as well.

48cj2a 04-13-2016 06:46 AM

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Pictures don't do it justice but nice work and you got to dabble in something new too!

68Timber 04-13-2016 11:04 AM

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Thanks man. It's just a good truck to learn on, that's really the bottom line.

MTCK 04-13-2016 11:07 AM

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Ouch! Good work on the repair.

68Timber 04-13-2016 11:13 AM

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Thanks Marcus. Yeah that one hurt like hell, made me get down out of the truck for a few minutes for sure.

Front Range 04-13-2016 11:47 AM

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Nice work attempting something you've never done. You have to feel good about that.

Palf70Step 04-13-2016 06:34 PM

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:agree:

68Timber 04-13-2016 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Front Range (Post 7559191)
Nice work attempting something you've never done. You have to feel good about that.

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Originally Posted by Palf70Step (Post 7559637)
:agree:

Thanks guys I appreciate that. I was hoping to at least get the first coat of filler on this week and maybe start making the rust patches but the rain has been off and on. It's supposed to be gone by Saturday morning, so at least I've got the weekend to look forward to.

918733 04-14-2016 03:14 PM

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looking good I want to find some of the military bumpers for my Jimmy and gun racks

68Timber 04-17-2016 08:18 PM

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Bodywork is tedious! I've used most all of the 1 lb can of Bondo I bought but very little of it is on the truck - trowel it on, sand it off. Find the new low spot and repeat. I've got a DA but I couldn't use much, most of it was blocking with 100-grit on a sanding block, going this way \ all the way across then coming back like this /. Over and over. This repair is on a difficult area for the inexperienced, it being across the crown of the cab where it curves down to the windshield. It's not that a first timer can't do it, it's that a first timer isn't going to get it on the first, second, third, or even fourth coat of mud. After seven or eight coats I've got it close. In the first pic you can see a lot of lighter spots in the filler, the last two rounds I used a little less hardener so I could take my time and spot fill several spots before it got too thick to work with. Next pic it's covered with sealer primer then a few coats of filler primer. I'm done with filler, I'll keep blocking this a few more rounds then paint it.

I didn't make a picture, but I put an 80-grit disc on the DA and took it down to metal in the repair area before I started with filler.

68Timber 04-17-2016 08:27 PM

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Here's my two surprises hidden behind the windshield gasket. I bought some 16 gauge steel from Home Depot today to cut some patches out of. I haven't welded anything that thin yet, hope I don't make a mess of it. This is a bad area to have to cut the rust out of, can't get the cut off wheel in on both angles. I've got some bits for the die grinder that may work.

MTCK 04-18-2016 12:25 AM

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That repaired section looks darn good! My experience with filler is the same: goes everywhere but on the low spot. Good thing that tree fell so you can get that all tuned up right. Nobody likes surprises...


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