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thanks guys. I am going to take the stock mount to work tomorrow and if I get time cut out the offending area and see what that gives me.

Dave - before I do the PS pump I have to solve my header/motor mount issue.
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Just remember, you can plate/reinforce the tower bracket on the back side & it won't interfere w/anything.

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The bolt hole is right at an inch away from lining up. While I had the motor up to swap the mounts, I did a little reverse assembly so to speak and it look like I only need about 1/2" clearence at the frame bracket. I am going to cut it out today and see what happens. If it comes out right, you may not even see my modifications once everything is together...if this does not work, I can still use the mounts from the 82...

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I did cut out the part of the mount that i had marked. Not quite enough, If bolts up but the tube hits it hard. I marked it to cut some more...

We went to the drag races today so no work today...I will try to post a picture on Sunday...

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Well baseball is over for us this year. We did OK but not like we hoped. I am working a different schedule 3 days a week and it has given me a hour or so to work on the truck. I took out all the springs and out on my 20" wheels and tires to see how it would look. Seems ok now, but I will need to put sheetmetal on before I make a decision.

Anyway, I worked on my motor mount issue some more. I have totaly abandoned the 73-87 motor mounts mostly because I got frustrated once i modified the driver side frame bracket. I cut it down 3/4" and it looked good, but with a new rubber mount, it would no longer fit the frame like I wanted. So, back to modifing the stock frame bracket.

I cut out enough to clear the header tube and started "patching" the hole to reinforce the area that was removed. Here are some in progress pics:
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...0/100_2796.jpg
Here you can get an idea of how deep I needed to cut to clear the header,
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...0/100_2795.jpg
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...0/100_2794.jpg

This gets me about 1/4" clearance between the header tube and the mount. Once finished it should look good. There will be reinforcement on the underside and not visible once installed. I hope that I can metal finish it on the topside so that I can have it powder coated when I take it all back part for finishing some day.

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Looks like a good fix. No wheel pictures?:waah: I've been lookin for some 20's. I tried some but they did't fit. I guess the offset was wrong. A lot of the new wheels have a pos offset. I was pissed it was a good deal 350 for wheels and 1/2 bad tires.

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Thanks Dave. The 20's are my Boss 307's that came of my '98 before I sold the truck. Maybe once this motor mount issue is put to rest, I will put the sheemetal on and get a picture...

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Great build! Believe it or not, I remember this truck from the Street Machine Nationals in Waco, I was there that year, plus many others. I had a 65 short fleet, charcoal grey, 396 with a four speed and black bed cover. After the show was over, a bunch of us hit the cruise on Valley Mills and had some burn out contests and a few street races.
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Thanks, I miss that show and the cruising on Valley Mills.


No real progress here. I think that I got the motor mount issue resolved, but need to do a little gringing on some welds before checking fit up. I believe that it will be fine.

Next is working on the brake lines again. I and going to use braided lines from the MC to the frame mounted hard lines. I got the idea from my 2004 Express Van. That is what the factory did more or less.

Right now my wife and I are discussing a shop. Do I build or rent. I might end up renting one with a buddy who needs to get out of a bad situation he is in with another guy. We are going to work on a 63 Panel together anyway so a shop together would be a great situation. I am working on a deal for a 40x60 very near my house and he is working on a 40x40 that would be a short drive for both of us, but possibly a lot less money for his. My neighborhood has some restrictions on shop buildings and the city has my lot as requiring an 8' set back from ANY property line and that puts it taking up to much of my pie shaped lot.

Anyway, I will get something done once my foot is recovered from surgery. Should be one more week before I can put a shoe back on it.

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Well go some work done last night. I got some brake line parts from Speedway and worked on how my MC is hooked up to the hard lines on the frame. After looking at my 2004 Chevy Van, I noticed that GM used a section of flexable braided brake line in the lines from the MC to the Frame mounted hard lines.

Since I had to remake that section of my lines because my first set hits the headers, I ordered the fitting and 2 lines along with some tabs. I figured out where to mount the tabs and tacked them to the frame. I then hooked up the lines and it looks OK. I still need some cushion clamps to secure the lines, but I am happy with it.

I will get some pictures tonight after I mount the clamps.

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Here are pictures of the flex lines from the MC to the frame:
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...0/100_3198.jpg
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...0/100_3199.jpg

I lack making one double flare on one line to complete the front hard lines. The rear need some more thought, but at this time I think that I will need a tee and 2 more hard lines. Instead of 3 flex lines for the rear (frame to rearend, the hard line across housing to flex lines to the caliper) I am going to do a hard line across the frame and then flex lines from the frame to the caliper since it will be a little easier to do that. Not sure yet.

I did get my motor mount issue resolved for now. I put it on and the notch cleared the header tube fine. I realized that I did not have a gasket between the head and header, that moved it over some and the notch is not centered around the tube like I intended. It still clears so for now I will go with it. Plan now is to finish the brakes then back to getting the motor finished up to start it. I need a few things for that...

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Pulled the 9" rear out so that I can work on the C notch and might go back with a stock width rear. Not sure now..

For part of my Christmas presents, I placed and order with Brothers on one of their black friday deals. They had the blazer tank kit on sale for $175 plus shipping. That seamed like a great deal and should work great for my overall plans.

I need to make up my mind about tire size so that I can pick a direction with the rear end set up....

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I never thought of a flex line from the MC. Looks good!!

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I have to second what Alan said, never seen it done like that either. Not in a truck or car.
But I like it alot!
It ends up looking a lot cleaner the way you have it running straight back to your firewall like that. I am soooo going to mimic that set up!

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Thanks, I like how it gets them out of the way of other things in that area.

I still need to do the flex lines for the front and rear brakes then I will be done with the brakes.

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Saw another one done this way this weekend. it was not done as neatly and one line looked to short, seemed to be no slack for body/frame movement. I wish I had a picture of it, but I know that mine is not the only one now.

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i like how that looks, what size fittings are those??

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The lines are -3 AN fittings. The adapters are -3 to 3/8"-24 Inverted Flare.

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thats how my s10 brake lines are from the master. looks real nice, keep it up. i know ill be doing that when i change out my master to a dual chamber, or to disc brakes
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In between working on Korbin's truck and some household projects, I got to work on mine a little. Put a temp rear end under the back and put it down on the 20" wheels/tires from my old '98. I believe this is the ride height/stance I want for it this time...
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...0/100_3300.jpg
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...0/100_3299.jpg

We spent most of the day working on Korbin's frame, check out his build...

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MERRY CHRISTMAS! everyone!

I have done a little work, but no pictures at this time. I got some parts today so when I get out to the garage, I will get some pictures.
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I decided to do a bolt in c notch in the rear for now. So I ordered one from CPP and it wont ship until some time next week since they are closed for invetory this week.

Now I need to decide on doing bags on the rear or just go with drop springs till I can do a complete air ride set up...
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If the long-term goal is 4whl air-ride, do the rear w/bags & a simple schrader set-up.

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i vote coilovers...... so you get the adjustabilty to match the front and a great spring/shock combo for handling.....unless you are 100% on bags in the front

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Got my notches today. Going to watch the game tonight. I might work on it tomorrow.:lol:
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Well I got my notches in a couple of weeks ago, but did not post them...

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...0/100_3447.jpg
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...0/100_3446.jpg

Yesterday I started to plan out what I want to do for a pan hard bar. After looking at many different companies and what they offer, I decided to make my own.

I started with a basic idea of the driverside frame bracket and drew it up in Autocad. I printed it out to scale and put it on some cardboard and made a couple of templates.
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...0/100_3445.jpg

I taped them together with a spacer and clamped it to the frame. I used my jack stands to hold up a staight edge for reference.
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...0/100_3448.jpg

I did not like the height of where the bar would be so I clamped a few strips of angle iron to the bottom of the trailing arms as a reference point and used a 2x4 as a spacer for the bracket. I put the straight edge on top of the angle and used it as reference. I like this location using the top of the straight edge as the center line of the bar. This puts the passanger side mount on the trailing arm.
http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/i...0/100_3449.jpg

Thats as far as I got this weekend. I will make a couple of brackets to weld to the trailing arm for that mounting point. I make new taller templates for the driver side bracket and mock it all up again to see if I like it. Since the bracket will be so tall, I might do a cross brace similar to the one in the Hotchkis TVS kit....I don't know...I'll see how it looks mocked up first.

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What about using the OE Panhard bar reinforcement x-member?

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I am going to be replacing that crossmember with one that is square in the frame and not at an angle across like the OE one. I was refering to a brace to strengthen the tall mount for the PHB.

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Yeah that angled one is a PITA, really messes with my OCD where I think everything should be symmetrical and align right up.

Cannot wait to see what you do here, as it is not too late for me to mod mine just yet.

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Same here. But, I considered that it (the x-member) 'counters' the angle that the Panhard bar is as so the angles offset each other :lol: .

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Still working on the new PHB and mounts. I ordered my rod ends and threaded inserts and should have them early next week. I still need to mock up my brackets and make sure it all looks right before welding anything together for the final time. If my cardboard templates look right, then I will make the steel brackets and should have them done before the rod ends come in. Once this is done, then it is onto rear shock mounting...

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Hey Aggie, every once in a while I will re-read the first post in people's threads and just did yours.
Where are your side view mirrors?

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Never put any on after we painted it back in the early 90's. It past local state inspection about 2 or 3 times before it was parked...guess I did not need them...

It did make it a little more difficult to drive, but I think that it looked good without them.

The next time its on the road it will have aleast one on the driver's side.

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I cannot live without them personally! I even bought a NOS mirror for the p-side of my Tempest. Seems back then they didnt start putting mirrors on both sides until 69-ish??
Off topic but another odd thing about my Tempest is it doesnt have seat belts, those were still an option back then too.
Go figure.

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Well it has been a good while since I posted on here. I have not really worked on this one much. I had a major set back in March. I was let go where I worked for a "restructuring" of the management of the location that I was at. I was not the only one, but it was a COMPLETE suprise and shock to me. Anyway, I have been job hunting since then and have not had much luck since I am not willing to move from Longview at this time. With my oldest in high school, I just do not feel like making him start over some where new. I have a few good leads and had a couple of good interviews this past week. Hopefully it will turn into something good.

When we came to realize the job market here was not so good, we decided to open up a small metal fab shop in Longview. I have the doors open and have been working hard to bring in jobs. I will have a CNC plasma table delivered next week and should be able to get more going with that machine. If I end up taking a position with a local company, we will keep the shop open and work it in the evenings and weekends. The shop is large enough that we moved Korbin's truck overthere and will be doing its build there. We have the motor and trans mocked up in the frame, but waiting to do the mounts when we get the plasma table. During all this other crap, my wife got sick and had surgery about 2 weeks ago, the blessing is that I was not working and could stay home and take care of her and the kids to and from school since we do not have family near by. Thank GOD for good friends, I had help with the kids the day she had surgery, and we had a few bring us dinner a couple of nights after Kristi got out of the hospital.

I have gotten the panhard mount done for the frame side and the link bar is mostly done. I have to finish the trailing arm mount then cut the link bar to length and finish welding. I will finish that up after getting my new toy...

School is out for the summer, my kids did real well and my wife is happy it is over for a few months. She recovered quickly from the surgery and was off work too for the last 2 weeks of school. We got to spend some good quality time together.

Anyway, I hope the next few months are better then the last few and look forward to a new direction in my career...stay tuned...

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Wow, sorry to hear life threw you such a loop!
They say everything happens for a reason, and some people never focus on their true calling until work force labor life kicks them in the teeth.... Perhaps this shop is what you were always meant to do?

Good luck man!
I miss your build, I learned a lot from your thread !

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Wow, life sure seems to pile it on sometimes. Glad to hear the Mrs. came out of surgery ok & had a quick recovery. Good to see the boys are maintaining their focus as well.

Lets hope the 2nd half of '12 is better than the first....

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:agree:

I know it seems so unfair at times when life dumps a double dose of crap on some of us. I sincerely hope things begin to improve substantially for you and your family.

BTW. What plasma table did you purchase?

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Sorry about the job. It's hard enough building a truck when you have $$. Hopefully this economny will pick up and your shop will do good.:mm: