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BigCountryx 04-16-2014 07:30 AM

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Looks pretty frisky when you got the chance to put your foot in it and was pretty flat through the twists. Bet it was fun. Nice job.

vannatta20 04-16-2014 07:58 PM

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Thanks! For suspension I just have a large sway bar in front with airlift bags inside all 4 coil springs. I was shocked it handle so nice. I was just worried something would break if I pushed it hard. It also has a new cam in it which gave it so much more power.

ChevyJr 04-28-2014 12:52 PM

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Subscribed!

mcmlxix 05-21-2014 02:16 AM

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I just noticed you're in Vegas... You should come by the weekly car show/meet on Sundays. There are a couple 67/72 trucks that show up, one is a member here and has an LS1 swap.

bryce1010 05-23-2014 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by vannatta20 (Post 5424059)
I left the original wiring under the hood alone and just added the engine harness wiring that came with junyard engine. Its all plug and play. The downside is you have to use the factory fuse box for the LS engine which is bulky and ugly but who cares if its just a daily driver. I am using the factory a/c compressor that came with the engine and hopefully by Monday it will be blowing cold air. Have less than 300$ in the a/c system.

I just found your post. I have a 1971 c10 and thinking about doing the conversion . I can get the engine and transmission and all acc. and harness and computer . all i would need to do is give the fuse box from the donar engine 12v and everything should work. Ware are the speedo and tach taken from?

vannatta20 05-23-2014 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mcmlxix (Post 6687050)
I just noticed you're in Vegas... You should come by the weekly car show/meet on Sundays. There are a couple 67/72 trucks that show up, one is a member here and has an LS1 swap.

Car show on Sundays? I only knew about cars and coffee on Sundays. Can you pm me your#?

vannatta20 05-23-2014 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bryce1010 (Post 6690480)
I just found your post. I have a 1971 c10 and thinking about doing the conversion . I can get the engine and transmission and all acc. and harness and computer . all i would need to do is give the fuse box from the donar engine 12v and everything should work. Ware are the speedo and tach taken from?

Just delete vats first and it should run. I used autometer gauges.

bryce1010 05-26-2014 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by vannatta20 (Post 6690638)
Just delete vats first and it should run. I used autometer gauges.

How did you delete the vats

vannatta20 05-26-2014 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bryce1010 (Post 6693537)
How did you delete the vats

I did it myself using Hptuners. It cost over 500$ for it. You can have a local tuner reprogram it for you for around 100$ If you cant find anyone you can mail the PCM to me to reprogram it. PM if you are interested in that.

claytonisbob 05-26-2014 04:26 PM

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That's weird that you're getting such bad mileage with the LQ4. My LQ4 Chevelle with 315 tires, gm hot cam, t56 and 3.90 gears gets 23mpg on the highway/ ~17 in town. I know it's a car and it's lower, but those wide tires don't do me any favors. No AC though.

Nice truck man. Im planning out my 71 GMC for my newly acquired 5.3/auto swap and I really like the way you did the mounts and AC.

vannatta20 05-26-2014 05:41 PM

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My 68 firebird with 4.10's, t56 and the 6.0 in that got 24 on the highway. These trucks are not aerodynamic in any way. My firebird would cruise at 90mph no problem. My truck needs a lot more gas input to maintain the higher speeds. I changed cams in the truck and got 17mpg on my last trip though.

chevy72blu 06-06-2014 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mcmlxix (Post 6687050)
I just noticed you're in Vegas... You should come by the weekly car show/meet on Sundays. There are a couple 67/72 trucks that show up, one is a member here and has an LS1 swap.

x2! I'd love to see this truck in person

claytonisbob 06-11-2014 07:54 PM

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You said you ran dirty dingo engine mounts. Did you just use a dingo 1973+ mount on the driver side with the clam shell isolator and a different one on the passenger side? Did you have to get 2 sets of plates to do this? Curious since I cant really make it out in the pictures. Thanks.

kvn1011 06-22-2014 09:18 PM

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love the swap
post pics of your car when you get time

vannatta20 06-22-2014 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by claytonisbob (Post 6717336)
You said you ran dirty dingo engine mounts. Did you just use a dingo 1973+ mount on the driver side with the clam shell isolator and a different one on the passenger side? Did you have to get 2 sets of plates to do this? Curious since I cant really make it out in the pictures. Thanks.

i used dingo plates on both sides. that pic was to show how the 73 mount is different.

franky69c10 07-06-2014 05:28 PM

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Came out real nice bro thanks for all the info :metal:

'68 Short Step 07-09-2014 07:37 PM

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Very cool! I plan on doing the same swap very soon the same way. Nice work!

encasedmetal 07-10-2014 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by vannatta20 (Post 5354038)
My fuel tank is a hot mess. I tried a LS1 camaro fuel tank and that did not fit at all underneath my bed. The tank is now im my bed tool box... Going to get a custom tank and house the LS1 fuel pump assembly.

what was the issue? - I've seen pics of people using them and want to use one with my 63' if at all possible.

lowlyfec10 07-15-2014 01:07 PM

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my inspiration thread! the 350 i just put in my 69 a few months ago is starting to smoke at warm idle now...time to find a 5.3 and do a mild build but i plan on keeping it hooked up to my th400 unless i score a trans cheap as well. so dingo mounts and 73+ mounts and im guessin the factory driveshaft will work as long as the mounts are adjusted accordingly. lookin into the car intake and manifolds since im dropped 3" but plan to lay frame in the near future. *thumbs up*

68Stepbed 07-18-2014 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by lowlyfec10 (Post 6761947)
my inspiration thread! the 350 i just put in my 69 a few months ago is starting to smoke at warm idle now...time to find a 5.3 and do a mild build but i plan on keeping it hooked up to my th400 unless i score a trans cheap as well. so dingo mounts and 73+ mounts and im guessin the factory driveshaft will work as long as the mounts are adjusted accordingly. lookin into the car intake and manifolds since im dropped 3" but plan to lay frame in the near future. *thumbs up*

I would go ahead and find a 5.3/4L60E combo and change them both.

vannatta20 07-18-2014 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by encasedmetal (Post 6755620)
what was the issue? - I've seen pics of people using them and want to use one with my 63' if at all possible.

A LS1 tank will not fit between the frame rails unless you hack it up the frame up. Not worth it at all in my opinion. Also its not a flat tank on the bottom and will hang down.

vannatta20 07-18-2014 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 68GMCCustom (Post 6350061)
ahhh.......cam is stock then. That would be a limiting factor. That said...your dyno numbers are good. Wouldn't think you'd be getting valve float with those springs in the low 5000rpm range but I'm not familiar with their specs.

put a .550 to .600 lift cam in it with duration in 210-220/220-230@.050 range...along with a nice set of .650 lift dual springs and some c-moly p-rods to keep it together and watch it wake up!

I did exactly this and 68GMCCustom is exactly right! Has so much more power and driveability is still great.

68GMCCustom 07-20-2014 03:44 PM

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Thanks....glad to here I'm not putting bad information out there! :lol:

vannatta20 09-13-2014 07:44 PM

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New updates. Installed a 8.8 ford rear end for cheap but strong limited slip. Also upgraded to a better flowing intake manifold out off a TBSS. Upgraded to 90mm dbw throttle body off a gto as well. Much more responsive and wants to spin the tires all the time.

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Houston Ben 09-13-2014 10:26 PM

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What is the difference between the stock manifold vs the TBSS manifold? Also, what year is the GTO TB and did you have to re-tune?

vannatta20 09-13-2014 10:42 PM

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Well its kinda confusing. My new intake is a GEN IV cathedral style head intake. Used on TBSS and all 5.3 and 4.8's. They look much different from the gen3 style and some testing has shown them to make more power than a LS6 intake. Ive read many conflicting tests though. I got mine cheap and wanted to upgrade to the 90mm DBW. It was easy to put a GTO DBW throttle body on mine due to the old style dbw I used(00-02). Same as the corvette. newer 2003-2007 DBW you need a 250$ signal modifer to get a gto throttle body to use.

Houston Ben 09-13-2014 10:47 PM

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Ah, got ya. I have 2011 dbw. Thanks!

bryce1010 09-23-2014 12:38 PM

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How did you do the wiring on the compressor . Got a vintage air system going to start install

vannatta20 09-23-2014 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bryce1010 (Post 6853690)
How did you do the wiring on the compressor . Got a vintage air system going to start install

I just followed the vintage air instructions. Your just using a different compressor but the wiring is the same.

w00dst0ck 09-29-2014 09:50 AM

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Did you narrow/widen the 8.8 to center the pumpkin (explorer)? Or did you use a Mustang 8.8?

I'm about to do the same and ditch the 12 bolt boat anchor.

vannatta20 09-29-2014 07:46 PM

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I used a explorer rear but its too narrow. It will require deep dish wheels or 2 inch spacers on each end. I used 2 inch spacers that convert the bolt pattern back to 5x5.

mooseknuckles 09-29-2014 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by vannatta20 (Post 6861162)
I used a explorer rear but its too narrow. It will require deep dish wheels or 2 inch spacers on each end. I used 2 inch spacers that convert the bolt pattern back to 5x5.

no such thing as too narrow...:metal:

w00dst0ck 09-29-2014 08:49 PM

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Yeah it's 2 inches narrower, but it's an off center pumpkin so you would have had to take 2 15/16 off the long end to center it up.

That's what I do to fit them in car swaps. Other option would be drilling the plug on the short side, and putting 2 long tubes and it would be 2" longer than the 12 bolt

vannatta20 09-30-2014 12:27 AM

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vannatta20 09-30-2014 12:29 AM

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Pic above is the 8.8 versus 12 bolt length. Its almost 4 inches less in width.



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w00dst0ck 09-30-2014 08:11 AM

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Did you center the pumpkin or is the 12 bolt not a centered pumpkin either? Hard to tell in pics.

vannatta20 09-30-2014 10:21 AM

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Its offset 2 1/4 inches i believe. I had to cut open the rear crossmember a bit since the driveshaft would hit it with the offset pumpkin

w00dst0ck 09-30-2014 10:53 AM

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Thanks I have yet to measure my 12 bolt, but the factory 96-00 explorer rear ends are offset 2 15/16 to the passenger side. I was just curious if the 12 bolt it similarly offset from the factory. Otherwise the long tube on the 8.8 needs to be cut down 2 15/16 and use the short axle shaft on both sides. Or vice versa if you want it to be longer. -only required if you need to center the pumpkin depending on the vehicle it's going into.

Did you weld on new u bolt perches to it?

vannatta20 10-01-2014 12:11 AM

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Yep I welded new perches on. It would be best to put long axles on best sides.
Ol blue was cast in a college film. Its in the first minute of the vid.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w18xDj9ACU4
Its all in fun so pls know all actors are volunteers.

lowlyfec10 10-15-2014 02:03 PM

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finally getting started on my lq4 swap....got DD mounts otw....did you have any issues with cab clearances? now im being told to not go the DD 73+ mount way lol


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